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Benjamin Goertzel
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The film “Machine of Human Dreams” – some comments by the human dreamer
In which the primary subject of a recent documentary film rambles on a bit about the events the documentary covers, and some things that it leaves out... These are amazing
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The framing of the two cultures in terms of myth and logic and Jung's archetypes is certainly interesting. I hope we won't have to go through an intellectual inquisition to allow logos to flourish without interruption.

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Why the Good Guys Will Generally Win
This is a brief post, typed hastily, but it captures some ideas that have been germinating in my mind for quite some time. It's definitely a “stoned college sophomore” type of post (though at the moment of writing it I am neither stoned nor a college sophom...
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Hmmm. I tried to discuss this topic with you several times back around 2004–2008, seeing you as sufficiently outside the box, and mathematically aware, that we might make some progress…

This is a small space, but briefly: Joy is derivative. It's an indication of effective awareness, by an agent acting within a particular system, of alignment, harmony, flow—dare I say 'coherence'—involving the evolutionarily determined nature expressed by the agent, within its present environment of interaction.

I remember asking you face-to-face at Convergence 2008 whether you had any inkling of how we might mathematically evaluate and compare the effective coherence of various intentional systems. Since then my best statement of this is that it might be measured in terms of the average mutual information between inputs and outputs, with the understanding that 'information' entails an inherently subjective observer.

Even more fundamental—but replicating with fractal self-similarity throughout all levels of development—is the tendency of the universe to 'discover' and 'exploit' synergies that maximize the 'energy rate density' described by Chaisson.

As we did discuss back in those days, growth is fundamental to morality, but it must be meaningful, along the orthogonal, mutually supporting axes of 'values' and 'methods', both evolving in response to feedback of 'consequences'.

So in very simple terms, what 'works', persists, and tends to be seen as ''good' for any agent developmentally based in that environment of co-evolutionary adaptation. What 'works' over increasing context of values, or with greater scope of interaction (necessarily in regard to those values) is seen as not only 'good' but 'better', and from this we can infer an 'Arrow of Morality' that points not toward any particular 'Truth', but rather, outward, with increasing coherence over increasing context. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Ben, as always, I appreciate your creativity and originality, and I hope that this reminder of discussions past may contribute to novel developments in the future.

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The great transpersonal psychologist Stan Grof – a key founder of LSD psychotherapy, among other achievements – wrote a lot about “knots” – the binds and tangles that make up so much of our everyday human minds. I first enc...
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Don't know from immemorial times , every time that any sort of though about the "I" on the body surround as a silent sound and/or noises on the wind ... Everything becomes existent by itself without that thing of the "I" ... without judgement and/or recurrence on space-time , just the experience as the experience is without a second interpretation ... all the things related to the human emotional states seems like the noises from the earth observed from the Sun ...  
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The higher circuits of Timothy Leary's eight circuit model of consciousness appear to map to aspects of Ben's Eurycosm.
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+Benjamin Goertzel thanks! I'll have a look.
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Rockville, Maryland
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Cross-disciplinary scientist, entrepreneur and author; pre-transhuman; would-be immortal
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Created the first superhuman AGI in 2023
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  • Temple University
    PhD Mathematics, 1989
  • Simon's Rock College of Bard
    BA Quantitative Studies, 1985
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