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I just realized today what a dilemma it can be as an atheist to have to explain a 3 and a half year old daughter that her beloved cat passed away and wont return. It was her best friend, and she could literally do everything with this cat, even when she did mean things, the cat would not answer back or even try to run and hide.

How much easier it would be to say that it went to cat heaven, and is in a better place, just to try to comfort my daughter somehow, instead of telling what i believe to be true. Could also lie and say it ran away or make up something else, which in my eyes would just be wrong.

But after deciding to actually tell her what i believe is true, that she would live on through her kitten and even explained a bit about genes, i was surprised to find out how well my daughter took it and that she actually understood.

Anyway, it made me wonder what my fellow atheists would do in such case with very young children? Do you think it was right to tell the truth, even show her the dead cat and let her help bury it, or would it have been better to spare her somehow?
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 When facing an already ingrained religion things are different, but I still think its wrong to just play along and let others lie to your child.
I find it improtant that even if others around you belive something that you make your child understand that you belive different and why.
I also find this approche helps a lot:
"I don't know it there is a god, I don't think there is. But here is what I know to be true god or no god..." First it helps keep your child mind open to the fact that there are many differen views out there, and indoctrination works much less when children know that there are alternatives. And it also gives them something in reality to hold onto when the facade of faith crumbles.
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Great tribute to a great man who has inspired so many, he was a true hero.
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I just noticed the subtitle of this community is "There are no Gods". I think that the founder should consider to chance that, so it doesn't state it as facts, but stated as what atheism is about, lack of believe in god(s).

Atheism is about what we believe, not about what we know, and to claim that we know there are no god(s) can somewhat only be based on argument from ignorance, and i honestly don't think a group called "Atheism" should be going there. No matter how many evidence we have collected proving one or the other god to be false, then we are still unable to proof that there are no gods.
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+Ronni Rasmussen also, the gods of my religion are more "legend" and lore, rather then truth or wisdom...
Jist sayin
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Apple would probably have called it iwatch, if it wasn't already trademarked by other companies any many key markets.
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Without a doubt one of the best ERBs ever made, big ups!
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You often see people not bringing their hand luggage to the checkin counter, because they already know they got too much weight or that it wont fit into the measurement scale provided so people can check.
 
People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and not start to point fingers at others, because nothing would have prevented him to check if it would fit into the scale provided, neither would it prevent him to make the checkin counter check the weight.
 
I doubt that he didn't know he was in the wrong, hence also the reason why he gets bend out of shape over this.
 
It's impossible to enforce weight and size check at the counter, so maybe more airlines should make such checks more often as people board the plane.
 
This guy clearly bought a discount ticket to save money, yet be brought a luggage there wouldn't even fit into the overhead compartment.
 
Too many people does this to save money and time, and it's freaking annoying, not only does they take up way too much space, but also a harassment passing through the aisle.
 
Good to see an example be set once in a while, specially for a guy with such behavior!!
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this guy just got what he deserved... 
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The only reason these people is left "speechless" is because of the stupidity of the question. What this guy is basically asking for is someone to present the evidence of a monkey giving birth of a human, but that is not how evolution works and why so many people fail to understand evolution. Not only that, but asking for an example from one kind to another, without defining what your meaning of kind is, you will get the answers you got, because that is also a different kind. Saying but it's still a bird is stupid, because it's a different kind of bird or different kind of fish and so on.

The Darwin finches is a good example of observed evolution, which happened over a very short time, considering the time scale we are working with when it comes to evolution as a whole. We are talking about billions of years, and with a lot of micro-evolutions happening over vast of time, can create significant changes and be considered as macro-evolution.

For now we only had 150 years to do actual observing (following the theory of evolution), on a planet there is believed to be more than 4 billion of years old. What kind of observations does this guy really expect here? Big changes and natural selection comes into play when it's needed, because species has to survive changes in our environment or something like that. If you take human specie, we are very young, and the time scale of our existence as human specie is very short.

It's easy to hang on to such a believe as intelligent design, not only because it might have been what you have been taught as a child, but because it doesn't require people to actually study and use their mind. Evolution on the other hand can be difficult to truly understand, and will require people to actually open their mind and start using it for themselves.

Trying to dismiss all the data we got on fossil records among other things, and require observable changes from one "kind" to another is just folly and playing dumb.

He should try to pick up a book which is not only literature such as the bible, and try to actually do some studying on this matter, instead of picking up a microphone and make himself look ignorant. 
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Great post written by Michael Runyan but posted by the friendly atheist Hemant Mehta.
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A link to this article would be a great addition to lots of threads to this community. 
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Human evolution explained: one step forward two steps back.
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Substances - Gk: ousiai - cannot be said: but you can talk turd as your first language.
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I am somewhat disappointed not to see Brad Pitt in 12 monkeys .
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And then they wonder that people think that these are nothing but savages!!
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+rocco flavioni The existing evidence for evolution didn't affect some peoples free will to reject it.

Lets say that there would be evidence for an existing god, what would prevent people to believe that he would be the only god and actually be as he as imaged in the bible?

Also, why would a ultimate being have to put people through a test? If he is all knowing as some religions claim, wouldn't he by default know who deserves a place in heaven? And if wanting to test people, why would he make the test so much easier for some than for others? Should those people born in the middle of nowhere, who have never seen or will see civilization not have a chance to get to heaven? What about those people walking the earth before the dawn of Christianity?

Also, when it comes to free will, wouldn't it be fair to say that a child ending up in limbo never had a chance to decide? and that way decide the destiny based upon its parents will to baptize or not?

While free will is used as an excuse in many religions, it's also used as a weapon to make sure people will make their children a member of the church in such an early age where they haven't been able to have any will for themselves. So at one hand, they make it seem as we should have free will, but at the other hand, they try to take away the free will as early as possible to ensure you're born into their believes. 
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Orthodoxy actually answers many of your questions. If you are interested, perhaps you might read about it or ask someone knowledgeable (seeing as how the internet is mostly full of garbage and hearsay). Also, what allusion to free will are you referring to? Also, one could ask, what illusion of free will are you referring to? There is a difference in believing in a free will which is god given or even simply naturally occurring and ultimately irremovable, and the kind of will a parent puts upon their child. Whether it be for religious reasons are not, surely the parents ensuing their will upon a child does not decimate that child's perpetual free will. Rather than "take away free will as early as possible", the goal of most religions is to form bonds, contracts, covenants, brotherhoods, communities, families, etc. Whether for good or for ill, in these cases free will is never truly taken away. Are there not hundreds of atheists who were once "forced" to be Christians? 
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