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- But you're acting like I disagree with you, which I never have in this conversation...Nov 22, 2011
- You might not be disagreeing with me, but I disagree with you when it comes to maintaining or encouraging the mindset of comparing protests in the U.S. with protests abroad. They shouldn't be compared at all. It does nobody any good to be analyzed against someone else's situation. This goes for almost any circumstance (the idiots on http://whitewhine.com/ are an exception). Saying person A's troubles (my car got totaled) aren't as bad as person B's (my house burned down) is a pointless exercise.
Even if I didn't agree with some of the complaints of the OWS people, I would be furious with the treatment of the protesters. That has been the whole point of my comments here, and the original post. The protests themselves are not my point here. My point is that our government and police force are blatant crooks and liars who have completely failed to protect and serve us.Nov 22, 2011
- , I suspect* you're against the Occupy movement, so I'm taking this opportunity to ask one of your kind: Why? Why in the world would anyone who is not a CEO or billionaire be against it?
The anti-Occupy media and their dittoheads harp on OWS' lack of a unified message - but why? It does have a coherent message with many voices and many concerns, all of which represent the 99% (us), and if you don't support them, why the hell would you care if they have a unified message or not? They'd be easier to dismiss is not, right? So hooray if they don't! And yet.
The anti-Occupy media and their dittoheads scream about how OWS is dangerous and violent and so forth, but that's total bullshit. Measure their population against the general population and you get less crime at the occupation sites than in the general population, especially when you factor in the police brutality against them.
The Constitution and its Amendments guarantee the citizenry the right to the pursuit of happiness and to peaceably assemble and protest. Why is the government so against this movement? Why do college campuses and civic leaders recoil at people exercising their rights and duties as Americans? Because someone is out there infecting their minds in the ways that I mentioned above, and that someone is not the 99%.
* Yes, I'm being sarcastic.Nov 22, 2011
- Umm, I didn't do the initial comparison to the middle east protests to OWS, I was answering a comparison brought up earlier.
I am certainly not against the Occupy movement, I'm just saddened that they are continually shooting themselves in the foot by not having a unified message. I'm not saying they CAN'T have all the messages they want and all the protests they want, but they will never get the traction to bring about real change if the message changes every 15 minutes. And if they don't want change...what's the point?Nov 22, 2011
- There's a lot more than one thing wrong in this country today, so who says they only need a single message? Those T-party jokers don't have a single message (and were just as dispersed when they started), yet the media doesn't attack them for lack of unity. The 1060s Civil Rights movement didn't have a single message, either, and people generally agree that what they did was worthwhile.
Want some examples of the awesomeness that the Occupy movement is protesting? This is full of charts and details, and it's a month old:
And I love this Rolling Stone article by someone who also didn't understand at first but who came to love OWS:
http://m.rollingstone.com/entry/view/id/19309/pn/all/p/0/?KSID=8774e77e79439eb2a20d60d91adc97c5Nov 22, 2011
- No one took the Tea Party seriously until they had such a huge effect on the elections. If OWS can have that same effect (which I sincerely doubt, sadly), it would be taken just as seriously.Nov 22, 2011