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Next time you go to a local casino, you might want to take some farmers from the Roza Irrigation District in eastern Washington for good luck. Those are the folks, with farms from roughly Yakima to the Tri-Cities (see map), that decided on May 11th to stop irrigating for several weeks in order ...
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Seven barons on page 1 in 30 lines.
Nine barons on page 2 in 37 lines.
Sixteen of the barons against King John, 1215. 

I’ve meditated for several months upon the family connections of the Magna Carta barons. In Charles Browning’s The Magna Carta Barons published 1898, the author fills pages 61 through 69 with the relationships, wherein the individuals are given a number for reference.

I’ve thought to tab each generation to common ancestors may be clearer. Something of a family group sheet as model. Sixteen of the 25 barons in 70 lines. 

The Magna Carta barons names are italic bold when found a second time: italic underline Surnames are bold when first brought to record.

Page one concerns the barons matrilineal line from the Dukes of Normandy through King William’s niece’s descendants by Judith and her marriage to Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland. Alice and Maud

Page two sketches the family Clare and their relationship to the barons and connects the Bigod and the de Vere family

 The names of three ancestral Justiciars, two of whom I regard has having great influence to the generation younger than King John. 
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"How did we get here? How is it that our civilization, which rejects hanging and flogging and disembowelling, came to believe that caging vast numbers of people for decades is an acceptably humane sanction? There’s a fairly large recent scholarly literature on the history and sociology of crime and punishment, and it tends to trace the American zeal for punishment back to the nineteenth century, apportioning blame in two directions. There’s an essentially Northern explanation, focussing on the inheritance of the notorious Eastern State Penitentiary, in Philadelphia, and its “reformist” tradition; and a Southern explanation, which sees the prison system as essentially a slave plantation continued by other means."
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This is an excellent article. The personal attributes of John, the youngest of his generation, the barons represent a generation younger, accustomed with more recent family history in service to the realm as Justiciars.

Henry II Curtmantle established an office outside his household to oversee good governance. Justiciar.

The office ended under Henry III in 1261. Look to their children and grandchildren. The barons had been in office under John. Collected the taxes, served as sheriff, one, Warden of the Cinque Ports. Their "foul" monarch was near. Too near. 

A large genealogical pursuit in these United States is for those with early colonial ancestry from those rebellious barons, and has been for one hundred years, at least, an ideal heritage. Lineage Societies founded. Some creative fictions when required. At eight hundred years I think is safe to say if you've any recent British ancestry and medieval families ancestral to all, is understood. 


Do other English Speaking nations pursue the similar gateway ancestors for lineage societies? 
Magna Carta’s significance has often been overstated, its meaning distorted. Credit The National Archives / The New York Times / Redux
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