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Is this the 8-month sleep regression (she asks as she drools on herself while typing)? And if so is there anything I can do?

LO has been waking up every ~45 minutes all night long and is inconsolable unless held. Before a few days ago she would wake up a few times on a typical night and would usually go back to sleep with a paci replacement or a pat, maybe a little rocking. As of three nights ago she screams and cries unless picked up and often it takes two or three rocking sessions to get her back to sleep...for the next 40 minutes until we do it again.
I've tried letting her cry after the first check/pat and she'll cry over an hour with no let up. And she's rolling all over the crib in frustration. At that point I try holding/rocking again and it works but...she needs to be put down nearly asleep or asleep and 45 minutes later she's up again. She does this from bedtime (730-8) until 3 or 4 am, maybe 7 wake ups?

She sleeps in her crib and was never much of a swing sleeper. It's being held vs rocking that she clearly wants.
I don't think she is teething or sick and the only other change made recently was to move her to a two nap schedule during the day but she seems to have adjusted well to that along with a bedtime around 8-830 (earlier if she's tired).
She "sleeps" 8:30pm-7:30am plus two naps at 9:30 and 2. And until the past three days could be put down drowsy. Now...not so much at night.

Do I tough it out and hope this doesn't last weeks? I don't want to create bad habits but we both need to get more sleep than a couple hours in the morning. I read Alexis' post on regressions and I think that's where we are but I'm at a loss as to what to do. All ideas welcomed!


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Thanks Laura - She hasn't had any cold symptoms but I thought maybe she was batting at her ear so the thought crossed my mind as well. But she seems better today and the behavior stopped so just keeping an eye on her.
I think Alexis is right so we're working on changing the bedtime routine. (You'd think after reading all her awesome posts - many of them twice - I'd have figured it out sooner?!? Slow mommy brain...)
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Okay peeps, need some advice on sleep training, specifically scheduling.

Our LO (just shy of 8 months) has always been prone to short naps and night wakings. She can fall asleep awake and usually goes down pretty well at naptime and bedtime (dark room, in sleep sack, in crib). She sleeps anywhere from 9-11 hours at night, and naps range from 30 minutes to about 2 hours (although most are closer to 45 mins to an hour). But she often wakes up two, three, sometimes four times at night. And while she usually goes back down with just a check + paci replacement, it's time to get her to self-soothe more and wake up less.

I'm pretty sure the problem is that she doesn't have a firm sleep schedule. We initially tried "by the clock" at 4 months but at the time she was a terrible sleeper/napper and ended up exhausted and miserable all the time. So we resorted to following her cues versus scheduling, and until recently that's the only way we could be sure she got anywhere near enough sleep. But that means all her sleep times have some variance. Sometimes she wakes up at 700am, sometimes closer to 830am. Naps generally follow the 9am/1pm/5pm timing but their start and end times vary wildly - based on the timing & length of the nap before. And then of course her bedtime can range wildly too, between 800 and 1030pm, depending on when her last nap occured. 

I'd like to try scheduling by the clock but want to do it right. My hypothesis is: wake her up at a consistent time each morning (730am), and be sure to put her down for naps at the same time each day, and a consistent bedtime (thinking 830pm). 

I'm thinking:
Wakeup 730am
Nap 1 - 930am
Nap 2 - 130pm or 2pm
Nap 3 ??
Bedtime - 830pm

Thoughts? Do I even need a nap 3? (She takes one now but I think it is pushing her bedtime out too late.) And if she takes one do I wake her up by 530 to be sure we can maintain consistent bedtime?
Do I maintain the nap schedule ridigly even if she isn't tired and ends up not sleeping for a nap or two? (Guessing yes)

Any advice appreciated! 

and...Happy holidays to those of you celebrating :)
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Thank you +Alexis Dubief ! Four days in and things are going well. She wakes up and goes down easily, and her naptimes (930 and 2) are now stretching to 90 mins-2 hours. Sometimes she still wakes up at the 35 minute mark but we put her back down and (so far) she sleeps more.

She's visibly tired during the last 4 hour stretch so we may start creeping her bedtime up a bit earlier to see if that helps.

She's also still having 2 or 3 night wakings but usually goes back to sleep after some light soothing so hopefully as she adjust to the schedule those will work themselves out too. Progress!
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