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Jeff Van Gundy: Tanking kill credibility

The former NBA coach sounds off on teams tanking for entire seasons:

Teams tank. Not just the last 10 games. Now they’re tanking seasons. What happened to Michael Jordan [owner of the 7-53 Charlotte Bobcats]? This was the most competitive player during my time in the NBA. Dominant. Now he has an abomination of a team.

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I hate any idea that includes financial part to them as it means the rich teams can tank and get the best players and the poor teams have to stay bad as they have to fight for money! It seems to me (as a Jazz fan) being able to put positionally protect traded draft picks seems to be more of an issue then anything else! Warriors have such a huge reason to tank. Don't get under the 8th pick or they lose it! Not difference of a few places. Its have it or don't!

English Soccer's promotion/relegation system is the only real protection against tanking!

We have the same issue of proception of tanking here in Australia will our Aussie Rules league. It is a bit different here as a) no Lottery b) We have had a system were you can get an extra pick for being consistently bad c) Even if there was no draft reward, it still makes sense to tank (being send players for surgery early, play kids, get rid of veterns that are going to win you your next title).

Tanking is awful. It not only renders the regular season useless but completely removes a fan's desire to attend a game. Also, I'm still not convinced that, from a financial perspective, tanking is more lucrative in the long run.
+Kaäre Wagner Ask the Spurs if getting Duncan was lucrative (not saying they tanked but shows the power of the number 1 pick). Ask the Magic if Shaq/Penny was Lucrative (and Howard). Bulls Rose, Clippers Blake! Cavs Lebron! I think the is value in tanking financially!
+Phillip Malone You've really only illustrated that getting the #1 pick is lucrative, which does not necessarily mean that tanking is lucrative. Sure you get a higher percentage chance at that #1 pick, but it's still only a chance. I mean come on, the year Chicago got Derrick Rose they were only the 9th worst team - no tanking required at all.

I think a lot of what people perceive as tanking to get the pick is really just ignoring the reality that there really is not much to play for if you are a team that has been eliminated from play off contention 4,6,8 weeks before the regular season ends. Why would anyone not expect team's to take a nose dive at this point even without the lottery? In a similar case of ignoring reality as far as the Bobcats cited in the article, news flash guys they aren't tanking, they really are that bad and Michael Jordan is an awful GM. People should not just continue to let him off the hook by acting like it's some kind of master plan where they are tanking the season to get more draft picks.

Where I do think tanking is clearly lucrative is if you are in a situation like Golden State where you have traded away a protected pick (assuming that you aren't going to need it) and now have to get under a certain threshold in the draft to be able to enact that protection. This is pretty easily fixed by banning the trading of 'protected' picks.
Oh yeah as far as Jeff's comment about devaluing the regular season, the league de-valued it when they decided coming out of the lockout to value quantity over quality when they released the schedule for the shortened season.
+Phillip Malone Provided those teams actually tanked to get those players, as opposed to got lucky in the lottery, you make a decent point. But again, great examples but not inclusive of everyone else jockeying for a high draft pick. What about the teams that tank only to end up with a 4th, 5th, 6th pick in a mediocre draft? What if you tanked to end up drafting Adam Morrison or Keith Van Horn (#2 pick behind... Tim Duncan)? I think it's financially lucrative if everything lines up beautifully, but rarely does.

But what if, like this year's Phoenix Suns, you put up a fight and keep the fans' interest? What if you can sell that many more tickets and that much more merchandise and don't alienate your fan base? Tanking might not be as lucrative as you think...
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