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this is why they should be on crm/enterprise host for 'site data'
 
Google Apps is better than Office 360 because not only is it completely cross-platform, it directly integrates into Salesforce (and countless other nifty implementations) and completely frees you from vendor lock as you can go from gapps to microsoft or open document formats, not so easy the other way around. Google Apps allows real-time live collaboration and revision/version control of documents.

that is if a document isn't created natively in google apps, and really is an example of microsoft demonstrating a 'flaw' that isn't relevant in any way. basically, google apps smokes microsoft so thoroughly even if you aren't using google voice/hangouts/conferencing... that they resort to low blows as they are completely terrified.
 
would be more than willing to set up a webex and demonstrate in real time with you :)
 
So far you've simply listed a bunch of features that Office 360 already has, and dismissed a few features that people I work with use daily. :)

How much does Salesforce cost?
 
there is a world of difference between google apps and salesforce, office 365 does not have any of the functionality that salesforce does... and confusing the two is typical for someone who never has used crm/erp.

the cost for Salesforce is dependant upon the amount of users and edition that one uses, but they allow partners to create 'test organizations' to showcase features for customers. it really helps to demonstrate the value when you can try before you buy, and decide which features you need so you can pick the edition that will be right for you.

again, would be more than willing to set up a webex to demonstrate :)
 
+Phill Hocking said confusing the two is typical for someone who never has used crm/erp.

lol
 
lol right back if you think office 365 compares to salesforce :)
 
Are you using a Mac or PC?
 
Why would two PC users use WebEx for a product tour considering Remote Assistance is built-in to every Windows machine since XP?
 
because guys like me who have to support more platforms than just windows and have clients who are not necessarily the brightest bulbs in the box from time to time... webex support center is the best option i have at my disposal.

plus i also am familiar with it having used it for years.
 
and support center allows for multiple users in the session, multiple screen sharing/control options, and changing who the presenter/speaker is. additionally allows to transfer the session to another support rep/engineer in case of escalations etc
 
dont get me wrong bud i can tell you are a bit of a microsoft fanboy, and i am in my own rights too... i just prefer the right tool for the right situation in all cases, sometimes that requires out of the box thinking or seeing to believe. :)

i use google for mail/domain/applications stuff
microsoft for server/workstation/domain credentialing and network shares
salesforce for crm/erp
webex for support sessions and collaboration
rackspace cloud for infrastructure as a service/platform
rightscale for cloud management/monitoring

but i wouldn't use microsoft for mail/domain/applications stuff or rackspace for mail even though they have those offerings. because they suck at it. xD
 
+Phill Hocking said dont get me wrong bud i can tell you are a bit of a microsoft fanboy... i just prefer the right tool for the right situation in all cases

I prefer the right tool for the right situation in all cases as well. Interestingly, this often results in the impression of fanboyism when Microsoft purchases the right tools.
 
heh, webex support center = enterprise grade. show me a single major enterprise using the microsoft 'built-in' support tool. +Mark Noble you may be a fairly sharp guy, but sound a lot like a software engineer. i also get the feeling you haven't been responsible for a lot of large-scale enterprise grade solutions that need to scale.

dont get me wrong, i could not do what you do and am not saying i am > than you in any way, in fact we actually share very similar goals. i just would like to demonstrate some of my special sauce for you in the interest of collaborating or assisting you in your venture, not in making any money or anything stupid like that. i'm an enterprise network engineer and cio type guy for free who can't pitch his way out of a paper bag.

that's why i prefer to demonstrate. :)
 
it is enterprise grade, used it at f5 networks supporting enterprise clients with a good majority of my late-night second shift calls being from microsoft themselves lol.

lync is overpriced pos. you get more with google's unified messaging platform than either cisco/lync. :p
 
the proof in the pudding is that i can do everything lync costs untold thousands for absolutely free with my platform. coo/roi = upside down :)
 
Have you ever explored the features of Live Groups?
 
can't say i have. would be more than willing to check it out though, and i'm sure Chatter feeds are compelling as well. :)
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