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The hacker community has lost too many people to suicide recently — Florian Hufsky, Ilya Zhitomirskiy, Len Sassaman, and surely more I don't know about. A lot of the problem is that people feel that if they talk about it, or ask for help, they'll be seen as somehow weaker.

I'd like to say that's not true. I have nothing but the deepest respect for the people who did this panel, both professionally and personally. For that matter, I too have long dealt with severe depression; it has gotten a lot better over time, but it's something I still cope with regularly.

I know that many of you and your friends have, too. Please take a moment to share this post and let your friends know — either what you've been through, or simply that you're available if they want to talk.

Like coming out about being queer, being open about this makes us as individuals and as a community stronger. It's OK to ask for help, even if you're not actively in crisis or suicidal. A lot of us have been through that, or are now; you're not alone in feeling alone. Please talk about it.

I've put up a page of helpline info at for more resources, and freenode #bluehackers is a place you can hang out and talk.

Thank you +dara v, +Jimmie Rodgers, +Meredith L. Patterson, Michael Zeltner, and +mitch altman for your courage in doing this panel discussion at #28C3 about geeks and depression. It's an important topic, and I hope this helps make things get better.
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I'm not sure if this is a cultural misfit thing. Suicide rates tend to be higher in circles which put undue stress to succeed on an intellectually taxing level - no stats on it, but just a general observation going back to school days. And sufficient peer pressure in the not-too-shabby middle class to let others know the world is okay... Things like employment hang on that too, which is significantly different from a minority queer support group. Lack of trust and personal trauma often make it even more difficult to help.
I would say, having grown up as one of the smart misfit kids, that it its a combination of the two - pressure to succeed as well as social isolation in the physical world. Being the IT girl in a mainstream office for a year really drove home to me how fortunate I had been to work in mostly geek workplaces. It was like being a combination of a necessary service provider and complete outsider. Very isolating, and I was quite lucky to have a lively social life with peers outside of work.
My name is Uri Biber, and I've been a hacker for a while :)
I've dedicated the last half a year of my life in trying to understand the biochemistry behind our mentality. Before that, I did the research into the neurology, before that Hypnosis, before that NLP, and before that psychology. We, the hackers, think differently than most other people because we our brain is behaving in a different way. It is not only neurotically reacting in a different way, it is also the way our supporting cells function. The problem is that we are really bad in understanding our brain because our science is looking way too high. The brain is way too complex to assume that any prediction we do about it's structure even make us come close to understanding it. when you look at such chaotic system, the only thing you can control is parameters we enter into the system. if you give in positive values the system is build to sustain itself (the proof - we all think we try to keep our lives and most of us do not end our lives vulnerability early than we can).
As I wrote about it briefly in a recent blog I called "the metrics". "[If a person is]...suffering from a severe stress which can cause the release of epinephrine which will be translates to adrenaline which might be translated in his body to adrenochrome which might be translated to adrenolutin. The last two, adrenochrome and adrenolutin are hallucinogens– meaning they causes people a disorders of perception (disturbances of color and shape vision), thought disorder, altered social responses and paranoia of the type often seen in schizophrenia – but no vivid visual hallucinations of the LSD type (“The Neurotoxicity of Glutamate, Dopamine, Iron and Reactive Oxygen Species: Functional Interrelationships in Health and Disease: A Review – Discussion, 1999, JOHN SMYTHIES). Such a person can then go on and start shooting other people..." And may I add - end his or her life. It seems as if stress is major event in the lives of hackers.

The solution to adrenochrome and/or adrenolutin is consumption of niacin, as was proven in double blind placebo based research done in the 1950s by Abram Hopper and Humphry Osmond. But it's not only that, it's everything else from protein consumption that is badly managed by our body, through Pyroluria and B12 deficiencies. If anyone wants to learn more about it, I can assure them I would be more than happy to help. I'm fortunate enough to had parents that supported my difference, and loved me endlessly which gave me a safe haven I was able to be who I was, something that many people in the community struggled with at childhood. This makes it easier for me to connect. I have a child who is 10 years old non-verbal autistic, and I know the only way you can communicate with those who have problems expressing themselves with word is via love. So as all the speakers said - you're not alone, and I believe we all can hack themselves to a more brighter future than many of us plan to experience.
powerful and amazing thread:) Thanks for sharing!
I'm not a hacker but I am technically in clinical depression and have been so for upwards of twelve years. It is sometimes frustrating because I know I'm missing out. It's also of inconvenience in getting places as apparent platitude seldom ignites motivation in others. I knew since the beginning that there was a biochemical factor involved despite contrary affirmations from professionals. I highly advise going through online lectures by Robert Sapolsky whose work has highlighted the ill-understood mechanisms in stress, depression and other related ailments. I am currently in a much better state than I used to be and this is thanks in part to a bit of self-experimentation. At the moment, I am looking into link that seems to exist between neurological conditions and deficiencies in dopamine. Overall, I'm convinced that the a new profession could see the day where a person could offer guidance in terms of habits, thought patterns, diet, activity and personal environment to help a patient. Imo, this would offer superior results as the combination of these aspects are often neglected.
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