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- Yes, the church does not have the power to save, neither do programs or leaders. It is only in and through Christ, no man.
Elder Bruce R. McConkie said: "Are all prophetic utterances true? Of course they are! This is what the Lord's system of teaching is all about. Anything which his servants say when moved upon by the Holy Ghost is scripture....
But not every word that a man who is a prophet speaks is a prophetic utterance. Joseph Smith taught that a prophet is not always a prophet, only when he is acting as such (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, comp. Joseph Fielding Smith [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1938], p. 278). Men who wear the prophetic mantle are still men; they have their own views; and their understanding of gospel truths is dependent upon the study and inspiration that is theirs.
Some prophets-I say it respectfully-know more and have greater inspiration than others. Thus, if Brigham Young, who was one of the greatest of the prophets, said something about Adam which is out of harmony with what is in the book of Moses and in section 78, it is the scripture that prevails. This is one of the reasons we call our scriptures the standard works. They are the standards of judgment and the measuring rod against which all doctrines and views are weighed, and it does not make one particle of difference whose views are involved. The scriptures always take precedence.
- Bruce R. McConkie, Sermons and Writings of Bruce R. McConkie , p.231. The name of this talk is "Finding Answers to Gospel Questions". See https://www.lds.org/manual/teaching-seminary-preservice-readings-religion-370-
Elder McConkie taught that not all prophets are the same. There are varying types and degrees of them, as well as varying degrees and levels of inspiration. They have there own personal views and ideas. It's important to learn and distinguish between statements that are prophetic and those statements that are not.Oct 27, 2015
- The leadership is there to convey the lords word and work.Oct 27, 2015
- The leaders are not always inspired and this idea is taught by the prophets themselves.
The following is an example of a prophet not always being inspired this is from the life of Brigham Young, which President Harold B Lee shared. He said:
There have been times when even the President of the Church has not been moved upon by the Holy Ghost. There is, I suppose you’d say, a classic story of Brigham Young in the time when Johnston’s army was on the move. The Saints were all inflamed, and President Young had his feelings whetted to fighting pitch. He stood up in the morning session of general conference and preached a sermon vibrant with defiance at the approaching army, declaring an intention to oppose them and drive them back. In the afternoon, he rose and said that Brigham Young had been talking in the morning but the Lord was going to talk now. He then delivered an address in which the tempo was the exact opposite of the morning sermon. Whether that happened or not, it illustrates a principle: that the Lord can move upon His people but they may speak on occasions their own opinions.
The Teachings of Harold B. Lee, p. 542.
Christ is the only one to follow. Every man is capable of error. Prophets who speak by the spirit of prophecy would meet the conditions listed in my previous post.Oct 27, 2015
- the leaders dont have to say "thus saith the lord" as you well know.Oct 27, 2015
- No one said that they did need to say 'thus smith the Lord. The idea is that everyone needs to receive the spirit of prophecy for themselves and thereby know whether a prophet is speaking prophetically or not by the holy ghost telling you personally.
Elder Bruce R McConkie put it this way:
But in the final analysis, there is no way-absolutely none (and this cannot be stated too strongly!)
to understand any Messianic prophecy, or any other scripture, except to have the same spirit of prophecy that rested upon the one who uttered the truth in its original form. Scripture comes from God by the power of the Holy Ghost. It does not originate with man. It means only what the Holy Ghost thinks it means. To interpret it, we must be enlightened by the power of the Holy Spirit. As Peter said, "No prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Pet. 1:20-21.) Truly, it takes a prophet to understand a prophet, and every faithful member of the Church should have "the testimony of Jesus" which "is the spirit of prophecy." (Rev. 19:10.) Thus, as Nephi says, "The words of Isaiah"-and the principle applies to all scripture, all inspired writing, all Messianic prophecies"are plain unto all those that are filled with the spirit of prophecy." (2 Ne. 25:4.) This is the sum and substance of the whole matter and an end to all controversy where discovering the mind and will of the Lord is concerned.
- Bruce R. McConkie, The Promised Messiah: The First Coming of Christ, p.44
It is a individual job for you to receive the same spirit of prophecy for yourself so you there by know whether the leaders are speaking the will of god or not.Oct 28, 2015
- I agree buddyFeb 9, 2016