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Oh yep, I'll wade into  #ladygaga 's 'furgate' with one word.


In a letter to her fans she has said that where they might see an animal carcass draped around her wirey torso, she sees a "museum pièce de résistance".

No, really. She said that. 

I came to terms with some celebrities - like Pete Burns - buying and wearing what I term "vintage fur" (that is garments made before the 80s when the barbarity of fur farming was understood) but actively supporting and promoting the production of fur in a modern society is just crass.

For her critics this won't come as a surprise. They often claimed that she was a vacant show-woman who simply dressed herself in whatever trends she needed to get attention. 

She was all "ethics, respect and morality" during the Born This Way era (in which she said fur was evil, etc) but as embarks on her new "ARTPOP" album, which sees her ditch the moral high ground and return to music about drinking and having sex, it's back to the "glam sham". 
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I hope no one is surprised by this transition, but I expect there will be some disappointment and even more rationalizing by her fans. 
I honestly cannot believe this...sounds so..un-gaga-ish oO 
I guess you didn't read the whole letter to her fans? smh. Don't leave out details to make her look bad! "To the fans. i want you to know that I care deeply about your feelings and views, and I will always support your philosophies about life. We've been having over-arching conversations about society, equality, and politics for the past five years, and we should continue. I do not however support violent, abusive, and childish campaigns for ANY CAUSE. Particularly one that I respect. "Animal Rights." I am choosing not to comment on whether or not the furs I purchase are faux fur-pile or real because I would think it hypercritical not to acknowledge the python, ostrich, cow hide, leather, lamb, alligator, "kermit" and not to mention meat, that I have already worn. This should already put me in a category as one who appreciates and adores the beauty of animals in fashion, but am not a strict vegan. I have truly always stayed away from skinned fur, especially i have never been able to afford a nice one, but this does not mean my morals are rigid and that I won't bend at the sight of an absolute art piece of a coat. I have no chains about this. You see a carcass, I see a museum pièce de résistance. But I am truly sorry to fans who are upset by this, its a fair and applaudable feeling about the health and safety of animals. I respect your views, please respect mine. 
And to campaigners, Save your flour to make bread for the children who are hungry. And Kim Kardashian is fabulous." -Lady Gaga
I fail to see how the letter in its completion makes her look any better. o.0
This was my favorite part:

"I have truly always stayed away from skinned fur, especially i have never been able to afford a nice one, but this does not mean my morals are rigid and that I won't bend at the sight of an absolute art piece of a coat."
She is very in love with art so many things seem like art to her. Maybe if you were as into the arts as she is, you'd understand. She doesn't like that animals get skinned but fashion is fashion and art is art.
You know what, I shouldn't have to defend her and she shouldn't have to defend herself. Everyone dissing her and acting so high and mighty, when y'all eat meat right? You may not like what they do to animals but you still eat it. If you don't like it, don't wear it. Instead of worrying about others lives, worry about yourself. Acting like she skinned the damn thing herself. Smh
+Michael Dotson I'm Vegan ;)

And i'm not worrying about her life, I'm worrying about the lives of the animals she is condoning the use of for fur farming.

As an insanely influential person with an insanely dedicated band of fans who look up to her, she should know that by saying "fur is art" her "monsters" will think it's okay and bam - societal morality reverses 20 years.

She knows better than this, she is simply seeking a reaction. Which she is getting. 
She doesn't have to defend herself. She puts words out there publicly, and people will form their own opinions.

I like Lady Gaga, but like with most people even friends and family, I don't agree with every word she says. I think she makes a good point that fur is often hated in a way that leather or meat is not.

Honestly, if you're not worried about the lives of others and only yourself, then it makes no difference if some people use their time here by expressing disagreement with her. =)
Oh I agree with you, I was just trying to say it's okay to disagree with someone no matter who they are. And that the people who disagree with her don't necessarily dislike her. =)
I'm vegetarian, but the only song from Lady Gaga that I know is Poker Face, and I know it only because of the cover by Cartman.
Anyway, I'm into artists that display a much more manifest sense of ethics and morals in their music video, like Skuldom :
(Note that if you are offended by skull-shaped bra, human feces, nudity or low-budget production, you shouldn't watch this)
Well then maybe you should watch more videos of her so you could possibly like it if you're open minded and are willing to figure out the meaning of the videos. Unless you're offended by gays, sexual images, death, or alot of fashion you don't see everyday, you shouldn't watch them. They get very deep, if you can figure out the understanding in which most close minded people can't so they call them stupid and weird.
Random and supremacist argument is random and supremacist. o.0
If I was offended by sexual images or death, I guess I would be offended by the video I posted myself. If you have not watched it, then I guess you may have missed the second degree in my comment ;).
Actually, I care much more about the music than about the video that surrounds it.
And I'm not offended by gay if they are also vegetarians :P.
I was going to watch it but I don't know if I could handle looking at feces. I just don't like that but everything else you mentioned,I'm ok with. Maybe someday I'll watch it. Also, her video ties in with her music. There's always more meaning into her songs than what you might think after the first listen.
Well, I guess those feces are fake anyway. But the video is full of gore, so be ready for it, and prepare a bucket to puke into just in case ;).
I usually don't understand most of the lyrics when the song is in English anyway, so I don't pay that must attention to it.
How much blood are we talking about? Arm ripped off blood, or taking baths in gallons of blood?
Errr, disembowelment above of a bathtub blood ^^.
I can handle blood, crap, murder, etc, but that music is just bad.
Yeah, I know, right ? That's exactly my problem with Lady Gaga's music video too ^^. But I was trying to put more diplomatically, since +Michael Dotson seems a fan.
I'm more into that :
Shifteh - A true Iranian patriot!
Plus the music video is great : perfect Aryan girl in full battle dress sing with moving her arm a lot in front of images of military marches, how do you get better than that :P ?
Or the more bestest female voice in the history of rock and roll evar :
Yat Kha - Teve Khaia
There is a live version on YouTube that is great, but without Sailyk Ommun's voice, it's sadly a little less awesome.
Give video + music a chance. There's alot more content in the song than just the lyrics.
Songs I would suggest are "Hair" "Highway Unicorn" "Judas" "Marry The Night" and video would be "Marry The Night" sure they're not full of blood + gore but music doesn't have to be. It's all about the message.
+Michael Dotson you seem much more eager to get me watch Lady Gaga's music video than you are to view the music video I'm posting. Did you had a look at Shifteh's music video, that I described as great ? It doesn't feature any blood or gore, just an “Aryan girl in full battle dress sing with moving her arm a lot in front of images of military marches” :P.
Beside that, please note that I have no idea what the lyrics of Lady Gaga are, be it just because I don't understand English.  I mean, seriously, I have no problem with written English, I can understand most part of a normal conversation, but lyrics ? I can only catch a glimpse of them.
Seems I'm the only one liking “Aryan girl in full battle dress sing with moving her arm a lot in front of images of military marches” here. What a shock :P.
+Anne O'neam Hey, to each their own.  It definitely seems to be a niche genre though, so I'm not sure what you expected.

Oh, and for the record, I did try to dance to it, but without apparent success.  Dinner with the family was awkward.
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