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People complaining about the Note 7 box coming with Nougat out of the box - why would you want a brand new version OS running on a brand new phone?

Unless you're a bug hunter, you'll have a much stabler and smoother experience starting up the new phone if you stick with an OS that's been debugged for a bit.



Advice needed!
Has anyone tried using the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 N920I with project fi? I'm curious to try it and see if I can use the carrier with this phone. :) 

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Has anyone tried a dbrand skin?
I'm considering trying one. Would it help with the grip of the phone when I don't use a case? One of my biggest issues is that the phone can get pretty slippery, so wondering if having the skin will make it easier to grab hold of. 

Has anyone tried a dbrand skin?
I'm considering trying one. Would it help with the grip of the phone when I don't use a case? One of my biggest issues is that the phone can get pretty slippery, so wondering if having the skin will make it easier to grab hold of. 

How do you guys like the Microsoft band?
What would you guys change about it?

I use android, but really considering using it since its OS-agnostic :) 

The quiet before the storm... 

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There's been a lot of hate on Samsung lately.
Touchwhiz, slow updates, lag, price, bloatware, and design. Those are the sins that people always fault Sammy for.

As someone whose tried a nexus device, a moto devices. And gradually moved to a Samsung device over the years, I can understand their frustration. There is a problem. Why is my device not getting updates while others had it for months? How do you lag when you literally are crammed to the brim with more cores and RAM than other devices? What are all these duplicate apps that do the same exact damn thing? Yes, there is a prpblem

However, based on my experience using the note 5 for a few months now already, these problems seem do miniscule and seem so blown out of proportion.

Let's address the thing about updates.
Yes, having the latest and greatest update is awesome. I want Android NYC/ Nutella but I don't even have Android M yet. But is my phone useless without the update? Absolutely not. The phone comes with so many useful features and customization options and toggles that I can do a ton of things with it. The phone is so far from useless and having the latest update no longer means anythung to me. Android has improved a lot over the years and the next updates feel more iterative than major shifts now, meaning not having the update is totally fine.

Now let's talk about design.
The beauty of Android is its customization, the things that you can do with android to change anything and everything. It's what a lot of people like about Android. So why do people also complain about something that they can change? There are so many amazing apps out there and so many resources and people that are so interested in making new designs or helping others with designs. It's beautiful. There are launchers, widgets, icon packs, theme stores and so much more. Heck, if you feel comfortable, move to custom roms even. For anythung that you want to change, there's an app for that. I'm not asking you to devote hours on tinkering, but if you've got time to go on blog posts and write essays on how Touchwhiz looks hideous, you'vw definitely got time to download an icon pack.

Lag.
If you run a speed test with another phone side by side opening and closing apps repeatedly and talk about Samsung's poor RAM management, well, I gotta ask, is that really how you use a phone? Open. Close. Open. Close. Open. Close. Let's talk a out real world usage here. You need to do something, you open the app to do your thing. You wanna do something else? You switch over to another app. Sure. Are you really sitting there counting the seconds it takes to open the app and think to yourself 'holy crap I had to wait 5 milliseconds longer'? That just doesn't happen. You've got a powerful phone handling games and apps perfectly fine. It takes beautiful photos, it handles intense games beautifully, it executes crazy tasks like free form windows and multitasking greatly, and you wanna complain about the extra 5 milliseconds it took to open an app compared to another phone that you just happen to have next to you to compare app opening speeds? Chalk that one up to #firstworldproblems . I will honestly say this though - lag has not been an issue for me. I've used the nexus, I've used the lightly skinned moto x. The difference in speed not that noticeable. What's noticeable is the increase in features.

Which brings me to bloatware.
Yeah, it's terrible. I know. But you know why it's extra terrible in the States? Carrier blast. Verizon super cookies. Verizon nfl apps. Microsoft office suite built in. Samsung:S duplicate apps that do a similar damn thing as Google builr-in apps that do it better (sometimes). Samsung, what the hell are you thinking here? But surprisingly, some of the bloatware is quite good. I'll give it to them that some of their apps are actually better than Google's own apps. But some are just downright terrible memory wasters and battery suckers. But here's the thing - For the people that don't mind, Samsung's apps extra apps that just sit there. For the people that mind and what to do something about it. There are package disablers or you can disable a majority of the stuff and use mobiwol to prevent apps from sending any data out (I'm looking at you cheetah mobile clean master). But for the people that mind but don't really want to do anything to disable the apps, I can't fault you for being angry that you have to do anything, but there are solutions if you're willing to take the time to listen and you will find that using those resources wo be a very rewarding experience. You just have to be willing to try.

Lastly, lets talk about Touchwhiz as a whole. It's not perfect, but over the years, it has made leaps forward in many, many ways. Compared to the last one, and the one before that, this one is like an older, mastered wine that received a lot of polishing. I wouldn't knock it until you've tried it, and when I mean try it, I mean actually trying it. Not just using the device, but actually putting in the tweaks you normally would in your normal phone. If you usually use a launcher, then go ahead and use that launcher. Have an icon pack? Use that. Prefer Google now launcher? Go right ahead. Billions of awesome Tasker profiles? Do it! Do everything, try everything, and even try new things. Or if you don't want to try anything at all and just use the phone as is, then do that too! Just promise me that you are at least willing to dip your toes in the water a little and try it. :)



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There's been a lot of hate on Samsung lately.
Touchwhiz, slow updates, lag, price, bloatware, and design. Those are the sins that people always fault Sammy for.

As someone whose tried a nexus device, a moto devices. And gradually moved to a Samsung device over the years, I can understand their frustration. There is a problem. Why is my device not getting updates while others had it for months? How do you lag when you literally are crammed to the brim with more cores and RAM than other devices? What are all these duplicate apps that do the same exact damn thing? Yes, there is a prpblem

However, based on my experience using the note 5 for a few months now already, these problems seem do miniscule and seem so blown out of proportion.

Let's address the thing about updates.
Yes, having the latest and greatest update is awesome. I want Android NYC/ Nutella but I don't even have Android M yet. But is my phone useless without the update? Absolutely not. The phone comes with so many useful features and customization options and toggles that I can do a ton of things with it. The phone is so far from useless and having the latest update no longer means anythung to me. Android has improved a lot over the years and the next updates feel more iterative than major shifts now, meaning not having the update is totally fine.

Now let's talk about design.
The beauty of Android is its customization, the things that you can do with android to change anything and everything. It's what a lot of people like about Android. So why do people also complain about something that they can change? There are so many amazing apps out there and so many resources and people that are so interested in making new designs or helping others with designs. It's beautiful. There are launchers, widgets, icon packs, theme stores and so much more. Heck, if you feel comfortable, move to custom roms even. For anythung that you want to change, there's an app for that. I'm not asking you to devote hours on tinkering, but if you've got time to go on blog posts and write essays on how Touchwhiz looks hideous, you'vw definitely got time to download an icon pack.

Lag.
If you run a speed test with another phone side by side opening and closing apps repeatedly and talk about Samsung's poor RAM management, well, I gotta ask, is that really how you use a phone? Open. Close. Open. Close. Open. Close. Let's talk a out real world usage here. You need to do something, you open the app to do your thing. You wanna do something else? You switch over to another app. Sure. Are you really sitting there counting the seconds it takes to open the app and think to yourself 'holy crap I had to wait 5 milliseconds longer'? That just doesn't happen. You've got a powerful phone handling games and apps perfectly fine. It takes beautiful photos, it handles intense games beautifully, it executes crazy tasks like free form windows and multitasking greatly, and you wanna complain about the extra 5 milliseconds it took to open an app compared to another phone that you just happen to have next to you to compare app opening speeds? Chalk that one up to #firstworldproblems . I will honestly say this though - lag has not been an issue for me. I've used the nexus, I've used the lightly skinned moto x. The difference in speed not that noticeable. What's noticeable is the increase in features.

Which brings me to bloatware.
Yeah, it's terrible. I know. But you know why it's extra terrible in the States? Carrier blast. Verizon super cookies. Verizon nfl apps. Microsoft office suite built in. Samsung:S duplicate apps that do a similar damn thing as Google builr-in apps that do it better (sometimes). Samsung, what the hell are you thinking here? But surprisingly, some of the bloatware is quite good. I'll give it to them that some of their apps are actually better than Google's own apps. But some are just downright terrible memory wasters and battery suckers. But here's the thing - For the people that don't mind, Samsung's apps extra apps that just sit there. For the people that mind and what to do something about it. There are package disablers or you can disable a majority of the stuff and use mobiwol to prevent apps from sending any data out (I'm looking at you cheetah mobile clean master). But for the people that mind but don't really want to do anything to disable the apps, I can't fault you for being angry that you have to do anything, but there are solutions if you're willing to take the time to listen and you will find that using those resources wo be a very rewarding experience. You just have to be willing to try.

Lastly, lets talk about Touchwhiz as a whole. It's not perfect, but over the years, it has made leaps forward in many, many ways. Compared to the last one, and the one before that, this one is like an older, mastered wine that received a lot of polishing. I wouldn't knock it until you've tried it, and when I mean try it, I mean actually trying it. Not just using the device, but actually putting in the tweaks you normally would in your normal phone. If you usually use a launcher, then go ahead and use that launcher. Have an icon pack? Use that. Prefer Google now launcher? Go right ahead. Billions of awesome Tasker profiles? Do it! Do everything, try everything, and even try new things. Or if you don't want to try anything at all and just use the phone as is, then do that too! Just promise me that you are at least willing to dip your toes in the water a little and try it. :)



There's been a lot of hate on Samsung lately.
Touchwhiz, slow updates, lag, price, bloatware, and design. Those are the sins that people always fault Sammy for.

As someone whose tried a nexus device, a moto devices. And gradually moved to a Samsung device over the years, I can understand their frustration. There is a problem. Why is my device not getting updates while others had it for months? How do you lag when you literally are crammed to the brim with more cores and RAM than other devices? What are all these duplicate apps that do the same exact damn thing? Yes, there is a prpblem

However, based on my experience using the note 5 for a few months now already, these problems seem do miniscule and seem so blown out of proportion.

Let's address the thing about updates.
Yes, having the latest and greatest update is awesome. I want Android NYC/ Nutella but I don't even have Android M yet. But is my phone useless without the update? Absolutely not. The phone comes with so many useful features and customization options and toggles that I can do a ton of things with it. The phone is so far from useless and having the latest update no longer means anythung to me. Android has improved a lot over the years and the next updates feel more iterative than major shifts now, meaning not having the update is totally fine.

Now let's talk about design.
The beauty of Android is its customization, the things that you can do with android to change anything and everything. It's what a lot of people like about Android. So why do people also complain about something that they can change? There are so many amazing apps out there and so many resources and people that are so interested in making new designs or helping others with designs. It's beautiful. There are launchers, widgets, icon packs, theme stores and so much more. Heck, if you feel comfortable, move to custom roms even. For anythung that you want to change, there's an app for that. I'm not asking you to devote hours on tinkering, but if you've got time to go on blog posts and write essays on how Touchwhiz looks hideous, you'vw definitely got time to download an icon pack.

Lag.
If you run a speed test with another phone side by side opening and closing apps repeatedly and talk about Samsung's poor RAM management, well, I gotta ask, is that really how you use a phone? Open. Close. Open. Close. Open. Close. Let's talk a out real world usage here. You need to do something, you open the app to do your thing. You wanna do something else? You switch over to another app. Sure. Are you really sitting there counting the seconds it takes to open the app and think to yourself 'holy crap I had to wait 5 milliseconds longer'? That just doesn't happen. You've got a powerful phone handling games and apps perfectly fine. It takes beautiful photos, it handles intense games beautifully, it executes crazy tasks like free form windows and multitasking greatly, and you wanna complain about the extra 5 milliseconds it took to open an app compared to another phone that you just happen to have next to you to compare app opening speeds? Chalk that one up to #firstworldproblems . I will honestly say this though - lag has not been an issue for me. I've used the nexus, I've used the lightly skinned moto x. The difference in speed not that noticeable. What's noticeable is the increase in features.

Which brings me to bloatware.
Yeah, it's terrible. I know. But you know why it's extra terrible in the States? Carrier blast. Verizon super cookies. Verizon nfl apps. Microsoft office suite built in. Samsung:S duplicate apps that do a similar damn thing as Google builr-in apps that do it better (sometimes). Samsung, what the hell are you thinking here? But surprisingly, some of the bloatware is quite good. I'll give it to them that some of their apps are actually better than Google's own apps. But some are just downright terrible memory wasters and battery suckers. But here's the thing - For the people that don't mind, Samsung's apps extra apps that just sit there. For the people that mind and what to do something about it. There are package disablers or you can disable a majority of the stuff and use mobiwol to prevent apps from sending any data out (I'm looking at you cheetah mobile clean master). But for the people that mind but don't really want to do anything to disable the apps, I can't fault you for being angry that you have to do anything, but there are solutions if you're willing to take the time to listen and you will find that using those resources wo be a very rewarding experience. You just have to be willing to try.

Lastly, lets talk about Touchwhiz as a whole. It's not perfect, but over the years, it has made leaps forward in many, many ways. Compared to the last one, and the one before that, this one is like an older, mastered wine that received a lot of polishing. I wouldn't knock it until you've tried it, and when I mean try it, I mean actually trying it. Not just using the device, but actually putting in the tweaks you normally would in your normal phone. If you usually use a launcher, then go ahead and use that launcher. Have an icon pack? Use that. Prefer Google now launcher? Go right ahead. Billions of awesome Tasker profiles? Do it! Do everything, try everything, and even try new things. Or if you don't want to try anything at all and just use the phone as is, then do that too! Just promise me that you are at least willing to dip your toes in the water a little and try it. :)



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With some of Samsung's popular features getting baked into Android N (e.g. - split screen multitasking, free form windows, etc.), do you think people will start considering Samsung to be less bloaty? 
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