Muscle Body Dismorphia-related Insecure Masculinity Complex«Generally, men believe they need to be both lean and muscular to meet perceived societal expectations.»
…«The muscularity of ideal male body representations has increased from the 1970s to 1990s (Labre, 2005). These portrayals present an extremely, and largely unattainable, muscular ideal male body type (Lever, Frederick, & Peplau, 2006; Schooler & Ward, 2006),»
…«If an individual is taking performance-enhancing supplements to become more muscular and then engages in weight lifting, they are at increased risk of suffering a heart attack or stroke.»
…«Muscle dysmorphia, a subtype of body dysmorphic disorder, is an emerging condition that primarily affects male bodybuilders. Such individuals obsess about being inadequately muscular. Compulsions include spending hours in the gym, squandering excessive amounts of money on ineffectual sports supplements, abnormal eating patterns or even substance abuse. (Published online 1 September 2008 in Wiley InterScience (www.interscience.wiley.com) DOI: 10.1002/erv.897)»
— Statistics on Males and Eating Disorders. National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA).nationaleatingdisorders.org/statistics-males-and-eating-disorders «“Guys are just a couple of decades behind women of going down this really awful road,” said David LaPorte, a psychologist at Indiana University of Pennsylvania who has studied body image and social media.The TODAY/AOL Body Image survey released this week found that men worry about their appearance more than they worry about their health, their family, their relationships or professional success. Fifty-three percent of men say they feel unsure about their appearance at least once a week. Only finances topped looks, with 59 percent of men worrying about money weekly.»
…«Stacey Tantleff Dunn, an associate professor of clinical psychology at the University of Central Florida, published a study on this back in 2004. She found that when men were shown pictures of the idealized male figure — lean and young with lots of muscles— the guys became angrier and more depressed.“I think for a very long time, we really believed that men were more satisfied with their bodies,” Dunn says. “But we weren’t measuring things accurately.” Researchers tended to use the same self-reported surveys for men that they did for women, which were heavily focused on weight loss. “It wasn’t until we started to look at things like muscularity, chest and legs, and other parts, is when we started to see that men, too, had concerns.»
— Melissa Dahl. Six-pack stress: Men worry more about their appearance than their jobs. TODAY.com. February 28, 2014.today.com/health/six-pack-stress-men-worry-more-about-their-appearance-their-2D12117283
• Thai Nguyen. 5 Big Insecurities Men Have That They Will Never Address Openly. Elite Daily. November 4, 2014elitedaily.com/life/culture/insecurities-men-wont/819012 «Muscle Body Dysmorphia – also known as The Adonis Complex or ‘Bigorexia’ – is an illness on the rise. There exist no firm numbers of who might be affected, but cases of men who suffer from body dysmorphia – or a warped perception of their physical self – have increased steadily over the last 20 or so years.Our current understanding of the Complex is that there are men who see a distorted version of themselves in the mirror. What they see, when we see a potentially very attractive man, is a pale, flabby gremlin. They often have conscious if illogical or uncritical understandings of their condition, such as: potential mates prefer substantial muscle (found to be untrue), they are in competition with their peers or they are addressing childhood memories of being labelled ‘fat’ or ‘overly thin’. Or they have no opinion whatsoever on very extreme behaviour.This does not just affect gay men – straight men, out to assert masculinity against the tides of butch feminism, metrosexuality and overt criticism of ‘male-ness’, have been found to have deep-seated anxieties relating to their physical appearance. »
— jjjflanagan. Male body dysmorphia: a force for evil in the gay community. Pink Therapy Blog. September 24, 2013.pinktherapyblog.com/2013/09/24/male-body-dysmorphia-a-force-for-evil-in-the-gay-community newspapers.bc.edu/cgi-bin/bostonsh?a=d&d=bcheights20030501.2.60
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Shared publicly - Oct 18, 2015 9:12 PM [UTC]lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6e5iU5veYw4/ViQLTV6Yt4I/AAAAAAAAL1E/AdR2p7kKDjg/w400-h392-no/2015%2B-%2B1 Eco Traveler (Josh)
Oct 18, 2015 11:35 PM [UTC] +1
Only gay in the village.Zephyr López Cervilla
Oct 19, 2015 1:56 AM [UTC]
What job, being brown?rlcgonzo1975
Oct 19, 2015 10:43 PM [UTC]
+Zephyr López Cervilla and having some muscle mass.Zephyr López Cervilla
Oct 19, 2015 6:28 PM [UTC]
+rlcgonzo1975, in such case the white guy is perfectly qualified for the job. Or perhaps do you think that he's standing supported on his penis?rlcgonzo1975
Oct 19, 2015 6:33 PM [UTC] +1
+Zephyr López Cervilla I think from what I can see they are all white with fake tan. Apart from the skinny guy who clearly has never lifted weights in his life. I think it's a body building competition. Clearly he doesn't belong there. Eco Traveler (Josh)
Oct 19, 2015 6:33 PM [UTC]
+Zephyr López Cervilla I think our standards of athleticism must be different. His body has no definition whatsoever. I've seen better at a comic convention. _________ _________
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Reposted atplus.google.com/+JoshuaRoy83/posts/HYR1zVk7sTM Zephyr López Cervilla
Oct 19, 2015 9:00 PM [UTC]
+Eco Traveler: "+Zephyr López Cervilla I think our standards of athleticism must be different. His body has no definition whatsoever. I've seen better at a comic convention."
URL source G+ post of comment:plus.google.com/113562800545034645583/posts/Foo5K7pXgwQ
Apparently your pal +rlcgonzo1975 can't stand criticism and opposing views. He blocked me and removed my comment.]
— "Athleticism" is measured by performance, not by looks. For instance, how far and fast can those brown guys run? You Americans are obsessed with superficial physical appearance. "Definition" doesn't say shit about athletic performance.
It's common practice among bodybuilders to take diuretics the previous days of a competition to increase muscle "definition". Perhaps are they improving their "athleticism" by losing bodily fluids? Another common practice among bodybuilders is to take drugs to "burn" body fat. Are they becoming more athletic by simply taking drugs?
Definitions:«skill in running, jumping, throwing, and similar sports:The team's superb athleticism compensated for their lack of international experience.»dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/athleticism «physical strength and the ability to do sports and physical exercises well»macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/athleticism «The definition of athleticism is the quality of being coordinated and physically strong while also having stamina and coordination.»«physical prowess consisting variously of coordination, dexterity, vigor, stamina, etc.»yourdictionary.com/athleticism «Athleticism is the quality of having the kind of strength and energy that makes a great athlete. It takes athleticism to run marathons, play pro football, or sprint down a cobblestone street in high heels without falling.»vocabulary.com/dictionary/athleticism «It's easy to marvel at the athleticism required to throw a 90-mile-per-hour fastball, but when Neil Roach watches baseball, he sees something else at work – evolution.»phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html
Alternative definitions:«My point is there is more to athleticism than measurables. I prefer to define athleticism as Dictionary.com does.“Athleticism is the use of physical skills or capabilities.”I also like to include past experiences in athleticism because it is what has caused your nervous system to adapt. Running and jumping aren’t the only physical abilities.What about the ability to recover, your ability to learn, your ability to adapt or your ability to assess your environment?Aren’t those skills as or more important to sport than running and jumping? Power is just one piece of the delicious athletic pie.»
— Justin Hays. What is Athleticism? Robertson Training Systems. April 28, 2015.robertsontrainingsystems.com/blog/what-is-athleticism «Today we have better performances that we have ever had, but there are more injuries and fewer athletes able to sustain high performance levels for an extended career. What is missing? It is athleticism. We know it when we see it! We talk about it, but do we develop it? What is it? Lets begin by defining the term. Athleticism is the ability to execute athletic movements at optimum speed with precision, style and grace in the context of the sport or activity.. It is easy to see when someone has it.Despite our apparent progress we have increased specialization and sacrificed overall athleticism. We are lead to believe it is an either-or proposition. Produce a better athlete or produce a better pitcher or basketball player with refined specific skills. Ultimately the goal is to produce the best possible athlete who does a particular sport. This will enhance performance and reduce injury.With the same amount of training time available is it possible to train to improve athleticism without sacrificing specific skill training. We need to eliminate the distinction; the two are not mutually exclusive. They are co-dependent and intertwined, one enhances the other. There is time within the context of the existing structure to fit in athleticism components, It needs to be made a priority.Sometimes we overlook the obvious. In the incessant search to improve sport performance we have gotten away from the essence of it all. The foundations for athleticism are basic coordinative abilities. According to Drabik (Children & Sports Training) the coordinative abilities are:
• Balance – Maintenance of the center gravity over the base of support, it is both a static and a dynamic quality.
• Kinesthetic Differentiation – Ability to feel tension to in movement to achieve the desired movement.
• Spatial Orientation – The control of the body in space.
• Reaction to Signals – The ability to respond quickly auditory, visual and kinesthetic cues.
• Sense of Rhythm – The ability to match movement to time.
• Synchronization of Movements in Time – Unrelated limb movements done in a synchronized manner.
• Movement Adequacy – Ability to choose movements appropriate to the task.»
— Vern Gambetta. Athleticism. Perform Better.performbetter.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PBOnePieceView?storeId=10151&catalogId=10751
For instance, David Campese, one of the more skilled and quicker rugby players of the last decades looked chubby compared to other pro rugby players who play in his position. Another example is Lionel Messi, who until recently (last 1-2 years) hadn't gone through the bodybuilding shit:40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lowdn9KJT71qkvt19o1_400.png 4.bp.blogspot.com/-KJaWy4AYAG4/UEi0tM0XlcI/AAAAAAAAB1A/87wgC3Zo5iA/s1600/tumblr_lnkgb6tHy21qkvt19o1_250.jpg 3.bp.blogspot.com/-IwK-raUn_eI/UEi00KodemI/AAAAAAAAB1U/KwmP5PZhq-8/s1600/uu.jpg bleacherreport.com/articles/2116316-lionel-messi-and-argentina-teammates-pose-in-locker-room-celebration-photo ll-media.tmz.com/2010/07/21/0721-lionel-messi-splash-credit.jpg 2.bp.blogspot.com/_s6YwGUHretA/TCnqgjvctgI/AAAAAAAAAEw/cK0W2qNztVY/s1600/Lionel%2BMessi%2BSexy%2BHot%2BShirtless%2BPhotos%2B3.jpg PS:
BTW, your sneering comment:
URL picture:lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6e5iU5veYw4/ViQLTV6Yt4I/AAAAAAAAL1E/AdR2p7kKDjg/w400-h392-no/2015%2B-%2B1 Eco Traveler (Josh)
Oct 18, 2015 11:35 AM [UTC]
Only gay in the village.
was bigot and offensive to both gays and "undefined" guys. I bet you don't dare to compose a meme with that picture and your above comment, post it publicly in your stream and leave it there._________ _________ rlcgonzo1975
Oct 19, 2015 9:24 PM [UTC]
Zephyr López I blocked that stupid Spanish dick head. Spanish monkey dick head. Fuck you Spanish dick head._________
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Excerpt from comments of related G+ post 2:Neil Porter
Oct 18, 2015 2:16 PM [UTC]
Well, I will still exercise. If the future means a pill makes us fit it wont matter to me. Ill still get up and train because I like it. Maybe Ill take the fit drugs and train! #hulk
_________ Neil Porter
Oct 18, 2015 2:23 PM [UTC]
Well I have none of those issues. I'll never get close to that level of obsession. 45min of weight training 3 days a week is nothing like ^_________ Neil Porter
8:22 PM [UTC]
What just happened here? I enjoy lifting. I don't give ... don't care about longevity etc. However, it has its benefits.
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How Often Is B.M.I. (Body Mass Index) Misleading?
There is a strong relationship between B.M.I. and body fat percentage, but for almost one in five adults, the two measurements disagree.
]_________ Zephyr López Cervilla
Aug 29, 2015 10:16 AM [UTC]
I would consider an adult male with 20-25% body fat and BMI above 25 still overweight.
BTW, 18% is closer to one in 6 than to one in 5._________ François Knoppel
Sep 5, 2015 7:25 PM [UTC]
+Zephyr López Cervilla Do you even lift, bro?http://www.livestrong.com/article/421339-bmi-calculator-for-bodybuilders/
_________ François Knoppel
Sep 6, 2015 2:18 PM [UTC]
I appreciate your effort. You did misunderstand my point, though.
1. 'Overweight' and 'unhealthy' are not the same thing.
2. Not all 'body builders' have a low fat percentage. Certainly not at all times.
3. My reference to body builders was meant as an example of the extreme. Quite obviously there are people who are muscular and healthy, yet technically have an 'overweight' BMI and a normal amount of body fat. I am one of those people. ~21% body fat, yet I have a BMI of 28. I'm not trying to brag, just stating my speculation: If you saw me, you would not see me as overweight.
Bottom line: BMI is a terrible, outdated heuristic._________
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URL related G+ post 4: plus.google.com/+ZephyrLópezCervilla/posts/AXVSouxoG1q ____________________ Excerpt from linked article:«What doesn’t seem to be acknowledged at the cultural level is the rise in body image dissatisfaction among men over the last several decades. Men have become increasingly concerned with muscularity, the idea that they are never big enough. And, like others who struggle with body image and disordered eating, males are increasingly engaging in unhealthy behaviours – like excessive exercise and unhealthy eating behaviours – in their pursuit of muscularity.Where does this drive to be bigger, faster, stronger come from? Internalization of body ideals happens in early childhood – young children learn through images, the toys they play with, and through social interactions about ideal bodies. Children’s action figures have bodies that have become impossibly large over the past forty years (their proportions exceed those of even the largest body builders – as untenable as Barbie’s body type); characters in children’s shows have gotten progressively (and excessively) larger over the years, and the male form in advertisements and film, much like highly unrepresentative female bodies, has become one that is attainable by only very few. Given this trend, it isn’t overly surprising that there is a rise in men’s body dissatisfaction.But why this shift in media representations, and the hypermasculinization and hypermuscularity? I have my hypotheses about these shifts. Our knowledge about the world and about ourselves is dependent upon the social and historical contexts in which we live. We’re living in a time where women have gained privilege and power – shifting social dynamics, where we’re vying for jobs traditionally done by men; encouraging men to take over their share of household duties (my partner will laugh at this, because he’s forever after me to do my share; I’m working on it) and sharing parenting responsibilities. Manhood has come to be defined through large, active bodies; it’s a means of gender differentiation (it is particularly interesting to examine the phenomenon of male bodies taking up more space and female bodies simultaneously occupying less physical space in idealized images). Muscularity signifies male power, renounces feminine ‘weakness’, signifies attractiveness, and is associated with strength, dominance, sexual virility, and self-esteem.My partner and I have conversed about male bodies a great deal. He enjoys working out, and he’s extremely muscular. In conversations, however, he always talks about a desire to be ‘bigger’, a need to be bigger. I haven’t been able to comprehend this need; I think he’s a large man (nearly six feet tall, he towers over my less than five foot frame), and he’s well-defined. Other men often admire his build and marvel over his definition. Yet he still talks about being not big enough.When we were talking about muscularity just this evening he made an insightful comment – one that I hadn’t considered, and one that makes a great deal of sense. He talked about the utility of the male body: “men like me desire muscles for one reason only: utility”For him, muscularity isn’t about aesthetics. This idea of utility is logical – when grownups talk to young boys, emphasis is placed on agency, abilities, and the utility of their bodies. Boys are described with adjectives like “strong”, “fast”, “tough”; this provides boys with the message that their bodies are utile. Perhaps this is particularly important for certain men in defining their masculinity (because masculinity is enacted differently in different circumstances – dependent on socioeconomic status, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc.). Masculinity isn’t static, but fluid, and different aspects of masculinity will be valued depending on one’s position in culture. My partner is a labourer, so he covets his muscularity for the agency it brings him, the ability to lift and move objects, and to do his job well.»
— Jasmine Peterson. Bigorexia: Masculinity and the Pursuit of Muscularity. Good Men Project. November 30, 2013 [Comments from February 1, 2012].goodmenproject.com/gender-sexuality/bigorexia-masculinity-and-the-pursuit-of-muscularity
Excerpt from 'Comments' section:assman says:February 1, 2012 at 11:49 pm
The utility argument is obviously bullshit since there is no utility to muscles for most men. There are several reasons:
1. Many men think muscles are what women find particularly attractive. This explains why the vast majority of men go to the gym. Men do a lot for the sake of women and they cover it up with bullshit explanations like utility because admitting the truth sounds pathetic.
2. Status – men are equipped to ascend status hierarchies. More money, stronger, hotter girlfriend => better. Muscles are just a status hierarchy that men try to ascend.
3. Health, Mood and other benefits from weight-lifting. Exercise is a potent anti-depressant.
…John Anderson says:February 2, 2012 at 1:24 pm
On the other hand, there was a guy in high school who took a lot of ridicule because he could only bench the bar and one ten pound weight on each end. They might be beginners who are afraid that other guys will laugh at them.Jasmine says:February 2, 2012 at 3:30 pm
I think this is a serious issue where gender policing comes in. Lifting weights is considered masculine; having defined musculature has become almost an imperative in being considered a ‘real man’. So when some young men don’t live up to this standard, it is painful, and a potential site for being bullied or demeaned for not living up to the ideas of masculinity that abound. What often isn’t recognized in discourses of masculinity is that not all men are naturally muscular; bodies come in all shapes and sizes, and they vary tremendously. Male bodies that don’t live up to the masculine ideal are often positioned as feminine bodies.
…kofybean says:February 8, 2012 at 2:40 pm
“Men have become increasingly concerned with muscularity…”
Because masculinity is under attack, and has been for the last couple of decades. You think the rise of man-hate and metro’s, and the rise of men wanting to be bigger don’t corelate? These generations raised by women, to dislike everything “man”, will back fire big time.Jasmine says:February 8, 2012 at 2:48 pm
I don’t see that masculinity has been under attack. Culture is always shifting, and there has been an increased attention to the limitations of the gender binary, but masculinity has never come under fire. You’re saying ‘metrosexuals’ are somehow attacking masculinity, or manhood, by simply existing? How is it that ‘metrosexual’ cannot also be masculine? It’s this sort of narrow thinking about what masculinity is that is highly problematic.
And sure, men can be subject to misandry, just like women are subject to misogyny. But that isn’t the same as ‘attacking masculinity’. Masculinity is a construct; it shifts over time and across cultures. It is not static. I’ve been raised in this culture, and I’ve not seen the dislike of everything ‘male’ that you are suggesting exists. Again, there is certainly some misandry, but to suggest that it’s a wholesale attack on manhood is a generalization, and quite inaccurate. The desire for muscularity is far more nuanced than what you’re suggesting. Perhaps it is a factor for you, personally, but that doesn’t mean that it is a cultural-wide relationship between men and muscularity.
…bobbt says:February 19, 2012 at 4:03 pm
So you claim that male suicides can be attributed to the “male construct”. So how has the “male construct”changed so radically as to cause a 400% spike in just a few short years? Your a student of Clinical Psycology, so you must know the 2 overiding factors in most suicides , despair and hopelessness. your down and out and there doesn’t look like there’s anyway up, but there is a way out(this does not come fron any “Clinical Studies” but from experience). Feminist all pay lip service to this problem(whe’re studing the problem). Meanwhile, the 2 cornerstones of N.O.W. , Solanis and Drowkin , advocated reducing the male population to “10% of current levels”. Look, I realize I’m debating with an Idealouge so let me leave you with this, I don’t know your boyfriend so I can’t say why he pumps the iron. All i know is for me, it’s theraputic, the gym is one place I’m allowed to “Be a Man”.____________________