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Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' schemes mutate into an online monster


A network of pitchmen have used the internet and fear of a failing economy to play the ultimate long con.
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I have to wonder if these people believe what they are doing is right, or if they simply don't have a conscience as they prey upon people who want a quick way out of their financial stresses. The "Salesman" in the video just makes me sick: he is as desperate to make a dollar as the lady on the other end of the line. It's amazing what people will do for money; and it's amazing what they won't do.
 
I would advise you to watch Frank Kern, though. Not what he says but how he says it. The guy is a marketing ninja.
 
Nice expose piece. This would make a terrific documentary.
 
Now that I've given it a thought: whoa.

- Insider group claims to have knowledge about an esoteric topic.
- They recite the same tall tales about failure and success, over and over again.
- They know what's wrong with you, and why you should listen to them.
- There is controversy around the tools they use.
- Some of their affiliates do shady things to unsuspecting victims.
- Very few enjoy the upsides, many kept perpetually poor.
- You can succeed if you just do everything according to their training material.
- Outsiders can't understand their logic, that's okay, because those are losers, who will fail at the end.

And it's been going on for the better part of the last 3 millennia...
 
Your whole family uses the same account? I think I see where you went wrong there...
 
Just watched the video, and found it very interesting.
 
+Bruce Richards Google Play keep a record of your apps downloaded in your phone basically only for that, as a record of what you have downloaded, yes you deleted the app from your phone and is no more there, but yes in the G-play historial, here the failure is on you part my friend, if you want to have privacy on what you download, start for stop using the same google account for the whole family, OMG please! or at least, be more conscious on what you download on that "family account"....

some people... it should exist a minus1 button for you sir...
 
+Bruce Richards Sorry, but +Jamie Somebody is right. Your first mistake was to have your whole family on a single account. I'm pretty sure the majority of google and android users know that while Google play serves as an app store, it also serves as a backup and history resource for your phone. Google intended for each person to have a separate account. They didn't do anything wrong, you did. Don't think that going to windows live will fix that problem. You can bet that if you fully go over to windows and get a windows 7 phone, you'll run into the same problem.

Just have separate accounts for the family. Problem solved.
 
OK, I muted this conversation at first but I must now come back and ask why would you share your google account with your family? It's free so why not allow everyone to have their own account? You set yourself up for failure with that move.
Good luck with your Windows Live account, but if you share that expect to have the same issues.
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scamming is like raping your money.
getting your email traded is like getting trafficked!
 
if that guy has so many sports cars why take the time to ~help~ others .first rule of con trick.you can only con someone who is greedy.the guy is right in that the crime is simple but the format is complex
 
Is it a scam if there is no fraud? Is it fraud to say what could happen but doesn't in most cases? Is it fraud to charge extreme money for information?

I've followed many of these guys for about 18 months. A some point I did spend money on things and overpaid for what I got. But did I? Or was it just that I never put the effort in to use the information I was given?

I did have a case of SNOBS (shiny new object b.s.) for while and that is how these guys make their money. But is that wrong for them?

Is it ethical to have a business where your products are a bad purchase for the majority of your customers? Probably not. Is it illegal? I don't think so.

Certainly I think many cross the ethical line but illegal? I doubt it. Listen to Kern in this video. He's telling you exactly what he's doing and how he's doing it. And he does give full refunds.

I'm not saying to buy any of their stuff, it is all overpriced if you're not 100% sure you will use it. But there is a lot to learn from them even if you just watch how they work and never spend any money.

I especially think it's shameful to put Tony Robbins in here and insinuate he's a scammer. I have a lot of his stuff and almost all of it is well worth the money paid if not 10X's as much. He's also charging about 1/3 or less than most of these other guys for much better developed products with high quality information.
 
Let's drop the +Bruce Richards bait. It was off topic and pretty blatant spam.

Fantastic video, though. Everyone needs to see this. Since these come-ons are so common, and economic need often tends to increase our willingness to take a risk (oddly enough), I think this message is a pretty important one to put in front of people. The full article at http://vrge.co/KInvZu goes into way more depth.
 
There's a fine line between this and faith healing... Very disturbing.Thanks for this post.
 
Why steal your money and identity when they can get you to hand it over for nothing? In all honesty, I know a couple of people personally who have fallen for this BS and I'm glad that somebody is finally doing some honest reporting on this topic. 
 
It's as simple as this, if you can't be happy with what you have, then you deserve what you get striving for more than you need. On the one hand, I feel sorry for the victims because they're being herded like cattle and like cattle, they just go where they're being prodded to go. On the other hand, I can't pity them because--->refer to sentence 1.
 
People still fall for these tricks?
 
I forwarded this article to a producer in my office who's done award winning docs. She was equally impressed by the material.
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