Just so you know, Mossad have hundereds of thier members who know the quran, arabic inside out. just saying :-p+John Yaşar
I am a muslim as well, but I dont know islam as well as some of my peers. +Jones Gore
seems to know a lot more. Most converts do. I am assuming you are a convert brother Jones? Reason behind that is that people like me are born into it and just go with what is passed down by parents.. once we gain more interest we read more and find out for ourselves what we know in a more deeper meaning.
converts make an informed decision and try and visit all avenues of a religeon before accepting it (thats what my understanding is)
point is, just because you are an ex muslim, doesnt mean that you dont have gaps in your knowledge. we all do.
Anyway, +Ishmael Finn
sorry for the late reply, so you will have to scroll up to remember what you wrote! apologies for that.
The fact that you are able to write here what you please, does not mean that it is not monitored or can and will be held against you in the US court of law. That is a fact and I personally know people who have been turned away from US borders because of thier 'opinions on open platforms'
The freedom of speech is slowky diminishing and we are all aware of that. Not sure why you believe that every other country other than the US restricts what you can say about anything. You hear about 'anti- semetic' so n so almost daily in the news..a lot comes out of your homeland.
Secondly, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Dubai, Somalia, Indonesia, UAE ALL allow immigration. No idea where you got the idea that you cannot immigrate there. Especially UAE? its mostly expats?!!? its a so called muslim state which servers alcohol on every corner for expat benefits! Iran has a huge christian population, pakistan too. I use to live in saudi in a residential area built especially for white folks because it had special built areas so they can even go for a skinny dip and not offend neighbours.
you mention the point about women. And I am certain that you are mainly talking about the hijab. one thing I want to clear up. The hijab (covering of the head) and niqab (covering of the face) are 2 different things one is islamic (hijab) and one is almost cultural. So dont confuse the 2.
If you are such a feminist, have you thought about the abortion rate in india for girls? its left them over 7 million less females. They dont even give them a chance to live let alone take thier 'rights' away! why focus soley of islam and womens rights.
a) look at any image dating back to biblical years and you will find women covering thier heads. Why do you think that is? Were women surpressed then too?
b) islam was revealed during a course of a period. during that time barbaric acts such as open rape was common and thus Muhammed was revealed to advise the women to cover up . I think the reason is self explanatory.
How many rape cases have you heard of stemming from SAudi arabia? Wearing the hijab is advised and women do it on their own accords.
c) I find it peculiar that men and women are allowed to be totally naked and walk around in the streets and/or have special areas to chill in, but when it comes to covering up, its taking away rights? If you have the right to be a nudist, why cant I be at the other end of the spectrum without you having something to say about it?
Let me challenge you. If you see a hijabi on the street and if she is willing to speak with you. Ask her one question. Did someone force you to wear this?
fourth point : This whole thing about islamic law being imposed in the west. I would like you to show me any news where any muslim is imposing their own law over yours. Again, one of those stupid fling stories which people pick up on cos it circulates so much. They might want to practice thier own law in thier own personal lives, but they would not stand in court and tell the judge to try them based on islamic law. come on dude.. I may be wrong tho, so please do show me this imposing you are referring to.
one of the definition of infidel relating to islam is a non believer of islam. It actually stems from Christianity and slavery. So again, lets look at ourselves in the mirror before pointing fingers. If you do not believe in islam, you are an infidel..its just a word an antonym for disbeliever or non muslim. I dont see the big deal. If you call me a muslim.. thats because I believe in islam. If you dont, then you are a non believer of islam, a non muslim or an infidel. if you are a christian, youre still an infidel cos christianity is not islam. simple. they all mean the same. if you are an infidel doesnt mean I shoud automatically hate/kill you or that you should watch out cos all muslims are taught to show hostility towards infidels.. thats just the bullshit version you are lead to believe :)
Just as the arabic word for GOD is ALLAH. Allah is not the 'name' of God per se. infidel is just a word.
its unfortunate that media has again bounced this word around in the most sinister way possible to make people believe what they want.
muslims and the rest do business every day, they communicate every day. where do you think all your oil comes from? canada? :p
Economic 'aid' is more of a crutch. US very well knows that the aid being provided to greedy politicians goes no where but thier swiss bank accounts. Why do they continue to give 'aid' ? IF i run a country like US and Im giving a country like pakistan aid so that it can better itself. 5 years, 10, 15 years later..hey it looks the same. where is all the aid i gave you?
why would i continue to give it? its politics im afraid..not the kindness of your gov's proverbial heart.
As I said in my earlier post, no one has disrespected you in here..only you have shown aggression and derogatory terms.. but you still go on sitting on your high horse preaching what you dont practice :)
I have noticed that you seem to disregard what people say to you, rather like to just go on and on about your sporadic understanding of another persons religion.