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Nope. Not with a fox, not in a box. What ARE they thinking at that price point???
 
+Michael Serra I'd do it at $299, that seems like it would be a terrific price point. $899... no.
 
It seems like an amazing device and I'm a huge fan of the Windows OS but the price point is just absurd. I'll stick with Android for my tablet needs. 
 
Is there no one willing to give this a shot? Me either...nope!
 
The Surface RT was priced lower because it was just an ARM-based tablet - and why it couldn't run regular desktop apps... the Surface Pro is designed with full Intel support inside to run everything a laptop does so it's really more of an Ultrabook/MacBook Air in tablet form.  It's priced comparatively with its competition.  Similar spec'd, is the Lenovo Yoga but I believe the Surface Pro may beat it on screen rez and price.  Personally, I think this is the Microsoft tablet people wanted instead of the RT when it was released.
 
Hmm. who wants get a Window 8 tablet? It have very limited apps, and it not open source. 
 
Even though I am still skeptical, mostly because of the price, the Surface Pro WILL run all PC apps that can run on Windows 8 desktop, as well as apps written specifically for the tablet.  The main problem is the specs (particularly battery life) are horrible for a catastrophically high price.
 
If they can improve battery life and get it down to $500-$600, then they've got a shot.
 
Hmmm... so a while back it came out that 64GB really only gave you about 48GB of usable space on the RT version so if that is still true with the Pro version then you will be paying $899.99 for 48GB of space + $129.99 for a Keyboard bringing your grand total to $1029.98 USD for the package.

I would give that a big NO.
 
This is a Ultrabook in a tablet format, weighing in at 2 pounds, with Ultrabook performance, Ultrabook battery life, better than Ultrabook cooling, better than Ipad integration into Enterprise, at Ultrabook prices.  Sign me up!
 
Anyway I may get a Sony Xperia Tablet Z, but Sony hasn't reveal the price yet. 
 
  Maybe, or it could be that a lot of people have been waiting to get a tablet that ran the programs their computers do.  Or in other words, a tablet that doesn't s*ck!
 
+Charles Caine have you ever tried to integrate an iPad or Android Tablet into the Enterprise? It's drop dead simple. Don't believe the hype. Microsoft doesn't want you to believe that but it's true. People do it every day and are extremely happy.
 
+Alexa Antonaras You are correct about the psychology being a barrier for the Surface Pro.  It's spec'd at or better than the MacBook Air for $100 less and has built in Wacom tech and the usual sensors found it tablets - because its a tablet but its also a laptop.  If Apple was to release a tablet form of the MacBook Air, people would go nuts to get one and say "brilliant!".
 
+Joseph Abreu  the difference is that if Apple released a MacBook Air that had a Touch Screen they would likely have made the jump to iOS on Desktop meaning all your favorite iOS Apps and Games now run as well thus making the MacBook Air that much more useful, especially when you consider it could also dual-boot to whatever flavor of Windows you would like. So yeah, that would be a much bigger deal.
 
+Alexa Antonaras yeah, introducing their new Devices with Hip Hop Dance Groups singing about Penises and Vaginas is probably not one of their best marketing plans :-)
 
+Kevin Darty I don't doubt it would be a big deal.  I already dual boot my MacBook Air (I dig portability and dev for both) but my point is directed at all of the cost comments and that +Alexa Antonaras 's point about the psychology of tablet pricing will get in the way even though Microsoft has actually gone and merged the two worlds - like many want Apple to do.  The device is more than a tablet and cost will, and should, naturally reflect that.
 
+Joseph Abreu yeah, I understand what you are saying but while Wacom integration is nice (for some people) and while running Windows Apps is nice (for some people), at this price point it won't attract the people that already wouldn't buy the cheaper RT version.

Personally, I think the RT version's failure should have been a big sign for Microsoft. The average consumer never knew that the RT version couldn't run their usual Windows Apps but they didn't really buy Surface RT devices either and OEM's didn't really want to bother making them either.

Microsoft never got their RT devices down to a competitive price point either.

All in all, you have to look at the facts, iPads sell at a high price. Kindle Fire and the Nexus 7 Tablet sells like hot cakes at their drastically reduced prices. The market for Tablets is not really the same market as Ultrabooks. Microsoft is trying to create this new Ultrabook/Tablet hybrid market and unfortunately, it is just the wrong Company, wrong OS to attempt such a thing. Outside of business, most people have a love hate relationship with Microsoft and it leans more on the line of hate. Most people think of expensive software, malware and viruses when they think about Microsoft. That is a huge stigma to overcome and I just don't think $1,000 Ultrabook/Tablet hybrids are going to help change that stigma any time soon.
 
This is pretty tough for MS. They have to convince the public that the Pro is in another category by itself which justifies the price. 

Once they convince the public that this is another category of gadgets by itself then they also must convince people that they need it. Some people will just use their Ultra portable for productivity and their tablets for media consumption.

The key to success is managing to blur the line between the ultra portable and tablet. If they can do this then they will have a hit on their hands.

Samsung managed to do this with the Note line of Galaxies with the phone and tablet. Lets see if MS can do it with a tablet and ultra portable.  
 
I agree with +Kevin Darty that releasing the RT version was a mistake.  They should have released the Pro version first, to eliminate any chance of confusion.  I have seen many people that either think the Surface will never run Windows programs, or else the RT could.  And no one seems to agree on what RT stands for, which is another mistake.

The sad thing is, I have seen a hoard of reviewers (who usually are not MS-friendly folks) give positive reviews to the RT and the pre-release Pro.  And Microsoft badly needs a win with the Surface, or at least some sales of it.
 
Definitely considering it.  I don't want to lug around both a tablet and a laptop, so a merge would be nice. Even if you don't like Windows 8, it's hard to say that the hardware being produced for it isn't nice. 

There are some limiting factors, of course.  I need to be able to perform CPU-intensive operations without waiting all day, so at least an i5 is a must (and obviously, no Windows 8 RT's.)  I definitely want a digitizer pen.  1080 resolution would be nice.

So, that narrows it down to Samsung 700t vs Surface Pro.  The 700t is plastic hardware with lots of people saying the dock provides a buggy connection.  So, the Surface Pro is the frontrunner right now as far as I'm concerned. 
 
+Steve Brown that's probably because MS has bought the advertising space. I am desperate for lots of competition or we will only have iPads and Android and then they will have us by the **lls. I just find it extraordinary that they think they can get away with it at that price. They should be selling them at cost and when people have caught the bug, increase their margins. 
 
The only reason I won't is because it doesn't work well as a lap device. Going with the yoga and a wacom bamboo instead.
 
+Michael Mazibuko yeah, Microsoft messed up by trying to get into the Tablet space with a hybrid. They should have started small, put out a Tablet first then said voila, here's a convertible Tablet/Ultrabook only for a little bit more. By breaking on to the scene in a small way (read: more competitive) they would have had a better chance. As it stands now, they have way too much of an uphill battle.

Microsoft fans will always buy what Microsoft sells. Those people are not who Microsoft needs to convert. It is the family with 3 iPads and an Android Tablet that they should be shooting for. Those people that go to BUILD and TechNet already bought what they are pitching hook line and sinker.
 
+Ariel Ruff yeah but don't try to argue that with a Microsoft fanboy. They will argue to their last breath that the Surface Tablets work just fine in your lap which is absolutely horse manure :)
 
+Kevin Darty I'm somewhat of a MS fb, and was so ready to get one, till a friend said "yea but how will it be in your lap" I instantly realized how much I wasn't going to get one.
 
Microsoft seems obsessed with suffixing stuff with "Pro"... and charging more. Basic marketing trick I suppose, but seems kind of dated to me.
 
There is definitely value added with the pro, even enough to warrant its price tag... It's just not comfortable in your lap lol.
 
Not buying it... Not worthy at that price...
 
If its not a chromebook I don't want it!
 
+Adam Decker I am very pleased with our Chromebook.  MANY more use cases than originally imagined.
 
+Adam Decker ChromeBook can't run Visual Studio or PhotoShop. I'll take the PC with the guts and the glory. Not the glorified web browser. 
 
+Joe Dzado not so, through Remote Desktop you can run Visual Studio on a ChromeBook, iPad or Android Tablet quite nicely. People these days don't buy Tablets to code, they buy them for fun and leisure. The age of buying Desktop Computers for building boring spreadsheets is over. This is an incredibly Mobile world with Apps built to fit specialized needs. Microsoft missed that point I'm afraid.
 
So with a Chromebook, you still need a second computer to run anything. Gotcha. I want a PC laptop replacement platform. Something I can plug into a monitor when I want a bigger screen. Surface Pro or something competitive. 
 
+Joe Dzado I didn't say that at all. With the use of NaCl Developers are porting Apps at a rapid pace to run within Chrome and the Chrome OS (i.e. Chromebooks). The Chrome Web Store along with Google itself already provides more than enough Apps to fit the every day needs of most Consumers. Power Users may find the use of Remote Desktop helpful for that 1% of things they can't yet run on a Chromebook.

Like I said, the world of Computing has changed drastically and left Microsoft behind. People aren't pining for Microsoft to release Office for the iPad. They already have plenty of great alternatives to that. There are already amazingly great alternatives to desktop IDEs available for Developers coding on iOS, Android and Chrome OS Devices. Where there is a will there is a way. Consumers figured that out long ago, Microsoft still hasn't unfortunately.

Oh btw, Developers that only use Visual Studio are a dying bread as well so claiming that is the main drive for Surface devices just proves how little minded Microsoft followers really are.
 
I mean, I see your point. It's a good one. I just like the idea of having both with the surface. Do you know what I mean?
 
+Joe Dzado yeah, I understand that, but Consumers won't. They will think exactly as I have outlined. The Kindle Fire is $199. The iPad starts at $329. Why nearly $1,000 for a Microsoft Surface Pro? That is how average Consumers will react.
 
Ah, well, I'm just glad I have more buying power than the average consumer. I don't know if they are the target demographic anyway. I mean, it's a good point. Maybe the Surface family will expand. 
 
I certainly will not be getting one. My Nexus 7 is good enough for me.
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