Continuing some of my rants against sealed glass super-premium gadgets, I know, but hey, that 950 XL is looking pretty different right now!
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- it's not so much that I have conceded, I just don't think you're going to convince me (and vice-versa) so there isn't much point in continuing to argue/counter because it doesn't really look like it will lead to any real conclusions here. In my head and based on my experiences I have the opinion I've posted. I don't have much more to add, and trying to think of more will be just dragging it out. My feeling are on here now so I have nothing more. See that as a concession if you will.
It's pretty obvious that no situation is perfect. I would rather not have an SD slot and lots of storage. A phone with a slot is hobbled to me, since invariably it has come at a cost of not having the large amount of fast internal storage I desire. There are other things I would prefer which are probably antithetical to your desires but hey, that's being human.25w
- not trying to convince you. I countered your assertion of better. If you have zero battery problems and your phones always get you through the day extra backup isn't required. If you do need more than what you said applies to phones with sealed batteries. There isn't an alternative.
Looking at pixel 32 vs 128 the difference works out to about a hundred. A fast 128gb microsd costs half that. Maybe not such a big deal
There is no 256gb option. Would that add another hundred. If it does the microsd is now a quarter as much.
People advise to get at least 64gb without a micro sd card. I would need 128 for starters to match 32+128 and the smaller pixel now costs 150 over my present. For similar battery. Why spend that much when the pixel isn't getting me that much more value 😊
Then there is the 3T 128 which works out to the same. Has a better battery but will have to either go on a charger or require something extra. Still not better than what I have and in some ways worse.
The g6 is a non starter.25w
- 'better' is very subjective. I like my ideas, you like yours. My point about storage options is irrelevant of price. Price isn't what we are talking about here.
I'm just saying that my perspective on things is that a removable battery is irrelevant (I prefer fast charge/battery packs. I just do).
SD storage is something I hate - mainly because I feel it has held back price drops on EMMC. All the while manufacturers go with the 'easy' option of a card slot, higher tier storage will continue to be expensive, and SD cards will continue to be the unreliable, slow pieces of shit they are (did I say I had another SD card corrupt irreparably this week?). They allow the average consumer to keep putting old cards full of cruft and crap into their new phones, introduce another layer of potential unreliability and give scope for data theft - how many normobs actually encrypt their SD card?
I feel Samsung 'wimped out' a bit by going back to low internal+SD instead of offering multiple storage tiers.25w
1) want to stay away from subjective better as that requires sweeping looong rhetoric and ends up with a vote. Trying to stay objective, pros & cons. No vote. If you say you would still use power banks and extended battery even with a phone with replaceable batteries. You need to show why that is better than what the oem provides
2) irrelevant? In the sense how widespread. With smartphones always in the minority. Going back several years. HTC, Sony, Google, Motorola, Nokia (mixed) and now Samsung and Chinese 1+ ,Huawei & Xiaomi. It surprises that 1+ & xiaomi went sealed. Isn't it cheaper to go replaceable. Not only that both avoid microsd too. People are choosing them because they accept the tradeoff of lower price for what they get.
Not irrelevant in terms of benefit to the user for reasons mentioned above
3) there are many classes of Emmc and are sold in huge numbers. I think the reason the price isn't dropping is they use the latest every year. You see speed bumps with sequential speeds but I think random speeds are more relevant and these tend to be much lower. The differences between microsd & internal for random speeds are smaller. But harder to understand. Sequential is easier as it's linear.
There are more companies offering microsd than replaceable battery. Here the picture is reversed. Only the minority avoid microsd.
So you're saying if there was no microsd then Emmc prices will drop? They will only drop if supply goes up. If there was no microsd then 256gb would be standard by now. Hmm I wonder.
As for reliability the one in my tab packed up in under 4 years. No warnings. Microsd has been good so far but your experience isn't unusual.25w
- we have reached the end of this now as I am too busy making a curry to argue about batteries ;)
Have a nice day.25w
- I understand your point, but I disagree entirely that any such group of 'subconsciously driven people' is nearly so large -- much less, so disruptive to the larger devices market -- as some have suggested. And whatever its genesis, this position fails the basic empiricism of sales figures.
Fair enough...but then, Dartmoor is an outlier in this regard and your example (or for that matter, Rangoon in rainy season) fails to address the larger issue: most people evince no real need -- nor clamoring nor even concern -- about IP-level water resistance.
Sure, some buyers want it and some of them are folks like us who spends countless hours blathering about phones...but then, do we speak for the average buyer? And do we have much of an impact on their buying decisions? Every year, I can point to sales of top-line phones that suggest otherwise.