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I am even more inspired today by His Holiness The Dalai Lama, he gave an inspirational live talk today here in Ottawa ♥
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Seems so much more logical than all that Bible-thumping shit
 
It all comes back to the Golden Rule. Who needs the extra fluff?
 
+Nick Byford And funny how close it is to what the bible actually says, instead of all the bible-thumping shit men keep trying to add to it.
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I'm glad you had such an inspirational day +Shefali Burns, I'm looking forward to seeing the Dalai Lama in June in the UK, it will be my first time :)
 
It was my first time +Kat B , I am sure you will enjoy it too :)
 
Thank you so much & I wish you all the best .
 
+Ricky Payne Do Ethics really need to be that complicated? Honest question, not trolling here. Why is it better to be aware of and follow a complicated set of rules when a simple few would do?
 
Nice quote... but it is not applicable in practical life...

Test: switch on your television... and watch CNN and BBC
 
+Dawn Eve I'm already practicing it, why don't you tell UN and all the nations' government to practice this...

Please go and tell to your president, we need not laws... and tell to the people... Please be Good and try attain Nirvana as +Joe Cavalry said...

Hope your project of Peace succeed.. i guess ;-)

CNN and BBC will run out of news i guess.. :-)
 
Sound like Eskimo religion....Snow with lots of Names....
 
بابا جی خدا کیا ہے ؟

خدا نہ جانا جاتا ہے نہ جانا جا سکتا ہے - اس کے بارے میں تمہارا ہر خیال حقیقت کے خلاف ہے -

تو پھر آپ ہر وقت خدا کی باتیں کیوں کرتے رہتے ہیں ؟

پرندہ ہر وقت گاتا کیوں رہتا ہے ؟ پرندہ اس لیے نہیں گاتا کہ اس کے پاس کوئی اعلان ہوتا ہے - کوئی خبر ہوتی ہے ، کوئی دو پہر کا ضمیمہ ہوتا ہے - وہ اس لیے گاتا ہے کہ اس کے پاس ایک گیت ہوتا ہے -

کوئی ایسا فارمولا بتائیے جس سے خدا کی محبت پیدا ہو ؟

اپنے ہاتھ آپس میں رگڑو شاباش ، دونوں ہتھیلیاں ................... کیا کوئی گرمی پیدا ہوئی -
جی بہت -

بس اسی طرح رگڑتے رگڑتے گرمی محبت بھی پیدا ہوجاتی ہے کام میں لگنا ضروری ہے پوچھتے رہنا نہیں -

جو نہ دیکھا جا سکے نہ سمجھا جا سکے نہ تصور میں لایا جا سکے اس کو ماننے والے صاحب ایمان لوگ سمجھے جاتے ہیں - تصور میں بھی لے آتے ہیں اور دیکھ بھی لیتے ہیں صحیح اور سچی زندگی خدا پر ایمان رکھنے سے حاصل ہوتی ہے - اور خدا پر ایمان رکھنا اسی کو جاننا اور اسی کی جے جے کار کرنا ہے -

روح تو ایک سوکھی پیاسی اسفنج کا ایک ٹکڑا ہوتی ہے - خدا کا تعلق ہی اس کو سرشار اور شرابور کرتی ہے ورنہ یہ سوکھی پیاسی ہی ختم ہو جاتی ہے -

از اشفاق احمد بابا صاحبا صفحہ ٤٢٩
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To Mohammed Adhil and Joe Cavalry. Friends, the philosophy of Dalai Lama is absolutely true and highly practical. At first glance it comes across as impractical, but pause and think and you will soon realize the truth and practicality of it. The problem is that most people can not differentiate between religion and the politics of religion. Dalai Lama is not saying that you don't build temples. They are necessary to leave the signatures behind when we leave this world. But to get nirvana or inner peace, you ought to look inside your heart and brain whether you are or are not inside a temple/mosque/gurudwara.
 
+Onkar Singh Plaha : lets not forget the past ; its of it we are here . The future is something , we of course can change . Lets hope for something beautiful tomorrow and stop quoting questionable personalities .
 
In William Least Heat Moon's Blue Highways a Trappist monk of the Monastery of the Holy Spirit, Gesthemani, Kentucky says, "Look -- talking about the spiritual life iis a bunch of crap. You just live it".
 
My intention is to value the sameness in what Dalai Lama says, lest i am misunderstood, All Best/akg
 
Why is the Lama more holy than anyone else? Its interesting when people are willing to make someone a demi god.

I am not denying his amazing contributions. I am questioning your "humility"...
 
thats rite and its good and kind and hurts no one do you mean the humans can show love without gain amagian that huh
 
Well, of course: Buddha never suggested he was a god; this is just a philosophy, not a religion. As a Christian I have no stones to throw at it, from this standpoint. Such a philosophy is valuable in a crowded place, and it does nicely.
 
Whatever he think or he said he is follow from Lord Buddha.and Lord Buddha said "do not belived whatever I said after you have your own experience'.
 
lol thats not a religion..... you dont have to believe init :D
u always think about things around you ... already!
religion is for those who are educated! they always know that they know nothing thats why they want to learn about it :)
Saad M
 
god doesn't needed to die for you to live eternally, he could've just said be and it wud be. Can't believe God has to go through pain to please humans
 
marlene you're threading on a dangerous road when you said what you said...
Saad M
 
I think Dalai Lama is a scam. Does he have a G+ account?
Saad M
 
ok so god(jesus) as you say creates us with evil nature, then saves us from burning in hell, that's convincing
 
kant can actually be quite easy:
"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law."
"Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never merely as a means to an end, but always at the same time as an end."
 
+marlene munoz Prove your Christ existed, then prove your god exists.
HARD MODE: You cannot use the Bible as evidence.
According to your religious text, your god killed himself to pay for sins he invented. What a colossal fuck-up.
 
again marlene... dangerous road... dont start something that you cant finish...
Saad M
 
marlene, the truth does hurt and it will never lie, but it looks like the truth abandoned you
 
Lily... well would u say this is a religion? lol
ok i have a religion too... and im the master of this religion!
i believe you should think about ur own life! and thats it! u r done! lol
Saad M
 
guys obviously marlene will hold those beliefs, look at her intellect
 
This Dalai Lame-ass guy (#14), needs to get a freakin job. Him and all those English blue-blood royalty types can kiss my "Rosie red Irish ass." You know, the kind of job where you roll up your sleeves and grab a shovel? I've been listening to people quote the Dalai and Ganhdi, with extreme reverence for decades. Most of this stupidity seems to be spawning from the campuses of so-called higher education (aka Higher Debt).
 
hey guys.... (+Tim Lathouwers +Evan Goers +Saad M)
we're not here to argue which religion is better than the other... i mean are we still that shallow? ppl like marlene unfortunately are either still stuck or just plain refuse to grow. It's simple for me... http://goo.gl/HjRQI
 
He is an incredible human being ...... somehow close to "divinity" we all try to get understand and be part of it! Beautiful, admiring and for all of us!!!!!
Saad M
 
here is a translation of what +marlene munoz said:
asldfkj asdlfkjf dflkdjfk adflkajsdf djfkdjfk dkfdkjf Jesus died for my sins dkfjd dkfjdkfj adslkfjdfk adlskjdlf quote from the Bible alsdkjfldskj alsdkjdlfkj asldfkj Jesus Loves you all.
 
+Elias Bagheri
as far as i'm concerned... ur religion is what you want to belief and follow for the rest of your life... well... religiously. if that's what you believe then go ahead man... peace... :)
Saad M
 
marlene if jesus is god and he committed suicide by dying or allowing himself to be killed, isn't he committing a major sin himself, of suicide. alsdjfladskjfl alsdkjfdlskaj alsdkfajl Jesus loves u
Saad M
 
+Evan Goers here is the concrete evidence from +marlene munoz : alsdkjf dlfkj jesus died for your sins asldkjfjfd jesus loves you asdkfdjk

There is no evidence, just believe god-dammit! thats how jesus saved her
Saad M
 
will jesus forgive or punish those who killed him?
 
+Evan Goers True... but i dont think we should keep throwing stones into a bloody mud, it only spreads the dirt everywhere. besides they will dry off when the sun hits them hard..! ;)
 
He already did, on d cross as I do believe so!
 
I TOTATLY AGREE WITH THIS FOR WHEN JESUS WALKED THE EARTH ANY WHERE U HAD GROUP THERE WAS WORD OF GOD HE SAID GIVE BACK WHAT WAS CESEARS AND I AM STILL PAYING HIM TAXAS WE WOULD BE STRONGER IF OUR COUNTRY DID BARDER SYSTEM IS TIGHT
WE ARE GODS TEMPLES DONT HARM IT
Saad M
 
so my next question is a very tough question:
What the hell was the point of all that? If you create humans, then you let them kill you, then you forgive them, then you love them, etc. etc. what the hell is the point of all this. Did jesus get confused while playing god
Saad M
 
based on your intellect, whether one believes in jesus or not, commits sins or not, believes in dalai lama and unicorns, aliens, he will still forgive them cuz he loves them allllllllllllllllllll i still don't get the point of all this.
 
Beutiful in a strange and simple way sort of folks tht myself would like to know what he meens about heart being a temple 
 
This is so true. Religion is own's brain. Other people cannot tell you what to believe and have faith with.
 
I think we are confused sometime, right? We need to have answers for almost everything.....it's human I would say and not bad at all! I always use to think of " What we see now is like a dim image in a mirror;then we shall see face-to-face. What we know now is partial;then it will be complete - as complete as God's knowledge of me." (1.Corinthians 13)
 
If you have not let Jesus came into your life you cannot manifest anything apart from what you are doing right now. dont let God put him to a test. Someday, you might kneel before him asking for a pardon when he heard you nd touches you . And what you do afterwards is praise him everyday of your moment.-
 
Why did it take too long to understand what Islam says?
 
Love the quote. Some of the responses scare the unholy crap out of me though.
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سلام بر تمام كرد و فارس زبانان
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kaan toddeey tey ki bolkey darra pahley hi bahut hai ab yeh bhi baanayengay!!!
 
niceeeeeee i like that...........
 
My soul doesn't need saving, I'm a heathen and I love it....
 
Your mind is a temple,if you think on it!
 
the righ religion in the world is the islam you can occupate it and you will know all the answers of any question i promess all of you friends.yours
 
Christ in us, the hope of glory is my choice, though any person of faith I respect and support your right to believe as you choose, Jesus did the same.
 
so simple...so correct. X
 
i am muslum and i hope that all people convert to islam because its is the right relegion in the world :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
 
Islam is the worst religion in the world ! they just want war and troubles ! +abou taki taki Your fucking religion is in war in 90% of the countries they are in. Not what the Dalai Lama is talking about !
 
the Lama shovels out this shit all the time. And the west eats it up like cupcakes.
 
Not an idiot just ignorant! BTW, what the Dalai Lama said was beautiful! Maybe if we started taking care of ourselves, we would start caring for others as well. What a beautiful thing to say that the philosophy is kindness...an amazing man...
 
+Emmanuel Bourmault What do u know Islam. & dont talk about war, who fought World war I & II who killed the million people everybody knows this.before comment anything think first then write.
 
oh sure, Islam is so good that the Imam in Iraq put 206 bullet holes into my house there because I was reading my bible, I was waiting for him inside, I wanted to let him visit ALLAH real quick, he was not that brave.
 
And helping the poor , not living in luxury ,in a temple I might add. Get out and work Lama.
 
number of temple built in my state himachal pradesh India and construction going on..............
 
I would love to have him come to Winnipeg. We need all the help and advise we can get. It is such a scary city, such a stabby city.
 
Christians should say that too. We some how missed something. so sad.
 
Well thanks guys, now its all as clear to me as mud!
 
+Ricky Payne I'm not sure your problem is actually with the Dalai Lama's saying or whether your problem is with how his audience processes the information. Your argument about their inclinitation towards the easy path by avoiding the complex could be just as easily applied via Buddhism. How many actually can recite the Four Noble Truths and Eightfold Path. How many have actually researched Buddhism's intricate writings such as the tipitaka? I think there is a vast difference between the typical Dalai Lama poster and say a scholar such as Robert Thurman.
 
+Ricky Payne Curious - what is your source for Tibetan Buddhist monks arming themselves?
 
+marlene munoz You really should do some research on what your religion is based and from your posts it would seem that your belief is largely based on cultural indoctrination as opposed to a thorough investigation of its historical context and development. The earliest Christian writings are the Seven letters of Paul, four other letters of Paul are largely believed to be forgeries. The seven letters of Paul are dated to be written nearly two to three decades after Yeshua of Nazareth was crucified. Within these letters, Paul shows an almost abject ignorance about Yeshua's life. As Bart Ehrman has often said, you could fit all the information that Paul reveals about Yeshua's life on an index card. He mainly is focused on the promise of eternal life and how his sacrifice was the sacrifice to end all sacrifices. This is not surprising because Paul never met Yeshua. He claims to have had a "vision" of him, but when you compare his description of the event in two different letters, the circumstances surrounding the event do not match, almost as if he can't keep his story straight. The following is what he relates about Yeshua's life - he was born of a woman (note: he never says "virgin") Gal. 4:4, he was a Jew (Gal. 4:4), he had brothers (1 Cor. 9:5), one brother was named James (Gal 1:19), he had twelve followers (1 Cor. 15:5), his mission was to the Jewish people (Rom 15:8), he held the Last Supper (1 Cor: 11:22-24), and he was crucified (Gal. 3:1). Paul quotes only 2 sayings by Yeshua - people should not get a divorce (1 Cor. 7:10) and that preachers should be paid (1 Cor 9:14). That is it. No miracles other than resurrection which he doesn't attribute to Yeshua but to God. And at no point does he depict Yeshua as God incarnate but rather gives him the title of the Son of God. According to the Bible, there were others who were bestowed this title as well such as King David for one. Doesn't mention any of his healing miracles, doesn't mention any trip to Jerusalem, no conflict with the Pharisees, no arrest, no trial in front of the Sanhedrin. You can't say that people already knew these details due to what is written in the Gospels, because they hadn't been written yet.
The first Gospel according to Mark (we don't actually know the original author was Mark because this was attributed to Mark nearly a century later due to tradition - not due to any thorough scholarly investigation) in which he only proclaims to be the Messiah to his twelve followers and tells them not to tell anyone, that it's a secret. Understand that this gospel was written at a time when there would most likely still be people alive who may have actually heard Yeshua speak and could claim that they heard him and confirm that he never made any claims about being the Messiah in public. Over the next ten years, Luke and Matthew were written and the stories get more elaborate. Most noticeable is the introduction of the birth of Yeshua within Bethlehem story. Both gospels go to great pains to convince their audience that Yeshua was born in Bethlehem despite growing up in Nazareth in fulfillment of the prophecies in the earlier scriptures. Big problem is that neither gospel agrees with circumstances of the birth. In one, Mary and Joseph lived in Bethlehem and then moved to Nazareth, the other has Mary and Joseph traveling to Bethlehem due to a census for a supposed tax established by Caesar Augustus, the emperor of Rome. An added note, there is no record of such a tax in any other historical document even though it was supposedly carried out throughout the Roman Empire which covered almost all the lands surrounding the Mediterranean. You would think at least one writer or historian might have noted such an expansive project. One has shepherds going to the birthplace, the other has wise men from the East bearing three gifts.
Skip over to the last decade and by now it is unlikely that anyone is still alive that would have actually heard Yeshua speak. This is when the Gospel according to John is written and given how elaborate and fantastic it is, it is a good assumption that the author knows that it will be very difficult for anyone to argue that he is misleading is audience about what Yeshua actually said. Now, instead of a Yeshua who only reveals himself as the Messiah to his followers - he can't shut up about it. Now he is not only the Messiah - he's God incarnate. This process over decades is indeed an elaborate fish story - that fish that got away who keeps getting bigger over every retelling.
I only have a few paragraphs and probably gone over my limit but I highly recommend you actually do some thorough research about the particulars and scholarship about the Bible writings over the decades and compare it to other non-Christian historical writings at the time such as Josephus and modern scholars such as Bart Ehrman, John Dominic Crossan and archaeologists such as Israel Finkelstein and William Dever.
 
I wouldn't really call that a religion... Just the right thing to do.
 
NO complicasteis,please,mariene.love is love.kindness is kindness,so simple.with all respect.
 
+Ricky Payne Do you have any links? I'm having trouble finding anything from Hitchens or news reports.

Thanks,
 
Well - that's a fairly extensive subject - I'll need to switch to my PC.
 
+Vijay S Mane and anyone else interested. I'm not sure if you are asking what the "traditional" Christian belief is, or my personal opinion as to what will happen. But I'll center on what the various traditions have been over time.

First off - this concern with the end of world is largely referred to as "eschatology" . and it is a belief that is not exclusive to Christianity. All the major religions have some version of the "end of all things" story. A non-Christian example, Ancient Norse religion's day called "Ragnarok" where not only the entire universe is destroyed but also all the Gods and from the debris of the last day springs up a new order of Gods and a new universe.

For Israelites in the First Century BCE, there was an overwhelming sense of bitterness. They had repeatedly been conquered, exiled or occupied. First by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians, the Persians - who weren't as bad and allowed them to return to Israel - then the Greeks, who tried to Hellenize the entire country. They had a brief respite for a little over a century after the revolt of the Maccabees but then came the Romans and that was all she wrote - Ancient Israel would no longer be a free and automonous country.

The Israelites believed that there was only one true living God ("living" essentially means he was not an idol carved in stone or "dead". A better description for a modern audience would "real" vs. "pretend") . A problem arose for the Israelites when they considered if they were the "chosen" people and their God was the one and only true God - why the heck are they getting conquered all the time? Will there be no respite? "We are following God's law all the time, but still, we are being punished while others who are evil are being awarded in life? Why does God allow this to happen?"

There are a number of simple answers to this question. God doesn't exist and we've just been fooling ourselves all this time. God exists but he's not as mighty as we first thought. Or, God isn't alone - there are other gods out there and either our God is puny by comparison or they have united in stopping him from protecting us.

But, no. The Israelites came up with something far more elaborate. I can't recall the psychological term but it is similar to the effect of an abused child. "Daddy loves me but also daddy hurts me." so the child's imagination comes into play - the devil possesses daddy when he beats me. A full cultural disconnect arose within the Israelite community, influenced by Zoroastrianism - God is not responsible for the evil in the world and our suffering. The devil and wickedness are in control, that's why we suffer. And why? It's all part of God's elaborate plan. God is giving the wicked free reign so that they compound their sins to the point where it would be nearly be impossible for them to redeem and when they have reached the ulimate point of depravity - God will come and conquer the wicked world and remake it into a kingdom of goodness. All the former rulers will be thrown into eternal punishment in hell. And so on . . .

What this closely resembles is the scrawny, defenseless kid being beaten and swearing to his abusers, "Just you wait - when my daddy gets home, he'll beat you far worse than you're beating . . .just you wait, then you'll see. And, boy, will you be sorry then" - because in both scenarios - the victim is absolutely helpless, sure the Israelites had their moments of success against the Romans, but ultimately - they were fated to lose because the Romans had better technology, better weapons and were absolutely ruthless. This was what the Israelites held onto so as never to admit full defeat.

Now - this is the state of Israel when Yeshua of Nazareth comes into the world. And besides himself, there are a number of "prophets" or "teachers" spinning this story. They are known to scholars as the Apocalyptic Prophets - all with the same one main theme - the end of the world is coming, all will be reversed, evil will be punished and you must repent and follow God's laws. It is common throughout the land. Near the Dead Sea at Qumran - a group known as the Essenes are living in a monastic community specifically to prepare for this coming "end of days". And in the North in Gallilea - Yohanan the Baptist - was teaching the same message. This message was passed downto his disciple -Yeshua of Nazareth who continued to spread it with his own additions and customizations to the story -

I don't want to get into the particulars but - I will point you to the following -
Καὶ ἔλεγεν αὐτοῖς· Ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι εἰσί τινες ὧδε τῶν ἑστηκότων, οἵτινες οὐ μὴ γεύσωνται θανάτου ἕως ἂν ἴδωσι τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐληλυθυῖαν ἐν δυνάμει.
And he said to them, "Certainly I say to you that there are some of those here standing, who will not taste death anyhow, until they see the kingdom of God in power.
Mark 9:1

This statement is largely believed to have been said by Yeshua of Nazareth - first, clearly it is an incorrect statement, all those standing there at that time are now dead. It is unlikely that an obviously false would be created and attributed to Yeshua by later Christians since it would serve their purpose to show him as being blatantly incorrect. It's most likely still preserved in the gospel due to having some weight of authenticity.

What this means is that Yeshua of Nazareth believed that the end of days was coming WITHIN HIS DISCIPLES LIFETIMES. I.e. the first century CE.
Consider Mark 13:30
ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι οὐ μὴ παρέλθῃ ἡ γενεὰ αὕτη μέχρις οὗ πάντα ταῦτα γένηται.
Certainly I say to you that no one of this generation will have passed away until all these things shall have taken place.
Well -it didn't happen.

Move to Paul - also believed that the end of days would happen within his lifetime. consider the letter to the Thessolonians -the earliest writing by Paul

τοῦτο γὰρ ὑμῖν λέγομεν ἐν λόγῳ κυρίου, ὅτι ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες οἱ περιλειπόμενοι εἰς τὴν παρουσίαν τοῦ κυρίου οὐ μὴ φθάσωμεν τοὺς κοιμηθέντας· 16 ὅτι αὐτὸς ὁ κύριος ἐν κελεύσματι, ἐν φωνῇ ἀρχαγγέλου καὶ ἐν σάλπιγγι θεοῦ, καταβήσεται ἀπ’ οὐρανοῦ, καὶ οἱ νεκροὶ ἐν Χριστῷ ἀναστήσονται πρῶτον, 17 ἔπειτα ἡμεῖς οἱ ζῶντες οἱ περιλειπόμενοι ἅμα σὺν αὐτοῖς ἁρπαγησόμεθα ἐν νεφέλαις εἰς ἀπάντησιν τοῦ κυρίου εἰς ἀέρα· καὶ οὕτως πάντοτε σὺν κυρίῳ ἐσόμεθα.
For this we say onto you in the Word of the master, that of us living, remaining for the coming of the master, will not precede those already dead. For the master himself shall descend down, in an archangels shout and the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christos shall rise first. Then we living, we remaining, being captured in the clouds, to meet the master above in the air and so shall we ever remain with the master.
Thess: 4:15-17
(Note: I treat Kurios as "master" and not Lord since the word "Lord" has a different modern connotation that was used in ancient times.)
Paul is making a distinction - using "we" for those living and "those" for those dead. "We" is first person plural, it includes Paul. Paul believes he will be alive at "end of days"

But as time passes - as more disciples and followers die - the story changes.
I'll continue later.
 
the hilarious comments i have read before made me laughed. why your beliefs doesnt meet in this world just to get this unity. I think budhism shouldn't be applied as your religion. just use your own thinking with all your heart . and you dont have to memorize things just to let them be heard
 
the event of his (Dalai lama) prayer shouldn't use catholic church as his venue because Christianity isn't the same with Budhism .Let them not use St.Peters square just to pray about what Budhism matters. they are not saints and they dont believe Jesus came in these world so why they use this as their venue
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