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I'm thinking of getting a recumbent road bike even though +Dylan Casey will laugh at me. I would like to get a nice mix of performance, comfort and safety. So, probably 20'ish pounds, not too upright, not too flat, good visibility, maybe an optional fairing, ...

It seems there are a number of small companies making these. Anyone have any recommendations?
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沙发是中国人。。。
the sofa is a chinese
 
Maybe convince a friend to let you test drive one before buying it...
 
Jeff Atwood's "coding horror" blog (of Stackoverflow fame) recently had a blog entry about portable bikes for geeks, you might want to check it out.
 
You should google that. Guess you can find it that way. Google is quite a nice little finding thingy. Have you used it before? LOL :-)
 
Not to say you're a geek of course. ;-)
 
+Leo Laporte had one that he put a few miles on, and he may be a good one to contact for info.
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i nearly posted a lmgtfy link here :P
 
+Sergey Brin My Mom has a recumbent bike. She really likes it, you should try it out!

(Sorry, I don't know which one or anything.)
 
Let's discuss in a HIRL. While I will publicly object, I will consult on the appropriate bike. 
 
Hi +Sergey Brin - If I was going to get one I'd go with a recumbent tricycle, I envision that as being more relaxing.
 
+Andrew Heckman can probably give you his two cents. I have a Sun EZ-1, which is a very nice recumbent for beginners, commuting, or running errands, but I'm guessing it's not the sort of thing you want. Andrew has ridden a lot of high-performance recumbents. :)
 
Check out Greenspeed. Been around in Aus for years and make great trikes. They suck in traffic though as nobody can see you. That is until they've run over you.

http://www.greenspeed.com.au/
 
I'll give you my whiz-wheels recumbent trike ... I never use it, and I'd love to say I actually gave something to the founder of Google ,,,
 
My neighbour across the road in Auckland NZ made a recumbent for himself. That's what Matt does - faff around with bikes. I'll tell him one of the founders of Google is after his services!
 
If you want performance take a ride on Trek Madone 6, it is amazingly comfortable, and safety? - if you fall, you fall :)
 
A Googler here in Zurich recently bought a Challenge recumbent. http://challengebikes.com - it looks to be a great design, and I know he is very happy with it... even if it took a little time to get used to. Not sure how available they are in the US, but the attention to detail, even to someone like me who only has a passing interest in bikes, was staggering.
 
I've really considered it. What I would really like is a kind of car-bicycle (with a little cover over the top!)
 
now we know whose idea it was for the ad
 
mountain bike is recomended hehehehehe my favorite bike
 
You have a billion dollars in your checking account. Just buy them all and see which one you like then donate the rest to a charity. When you act ordinary you look like an asshole
 
I see a few guys riding recumbents, along with other (much stranger) bikes, and they look like death traps. I imagine it would be hard to make a quick dismount or evasive maneuver on one of those bad boys.
 
Re: +Mario Callegaro 's post: One of the bikes Andrew had was a Bacchetta. Very nice. And if you have someone who can bring one for a test ride/do maintenance at your workplace, so much the better! Just don't order something without trying in person.

And don't listen to people who say not to get a recumbent. They're a lot of fun. It's impossible not to smile on downhills on a recumbent (or, in my case, stick your feet out and say, "Wheee!"). They may not be the best choice for every situation, but then, of course, there's no reason you can't have other bikes for other tasks.
 
+Mike Langford I wouldn't say so. It depends on the situation. For instance, I feel really uncomfortable on an upright bike on steep downhills, with my face pointing right at the road. I'd much rather fall with a recumbent than an upright. I'm sure that some crashes are safer with an upright, and some are safer with a recumbent. I wouldn't want to ride one of the very low ones in traffic, though.
 
бедный Сергей. в комментах к его постам всегда пишут только бред.
 
Get I bike that fit you and suits your needs. You'll also need to try it before you buy it.To find this bike, I think it's better to talk with an expert - why not the guy who comes to Google? I'll get a lot of advice and links but here, but you'll never be able to sort through them...
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+Sergey Brin 全球联名抗议GOOGLE关闭Google Directory和Google Labs
 
so you don't use the 767 for your daily commute?
 
NO, DON’T BUY. waste of money - even if you have billions. to slow, bad for the knees - and dangerous in traffic.
 
There are a vast number of styles and manufacturers, and if you square that, you'll be close to the number of opinions on the matter. It's worth it to go check some out--Zach Kaplan's in Alameda is one place in the Bay Area, and there's another up in Petaluma that sells what I ride. And you're welcome to drop by my cube sometime, as Chris (almost) suggested.

I will say that the European brands (Optima, Challenge, M5, etc.) tend to win on aesthetics. Der Liggende Hollander has photos of a lot of models on their site if you can put up with their painfully slow server. (They also rent them, if you're ever in Eindhoven.)

Oh, and http://www.bentrideronline.com/ is a good resource.
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why not go for a recumbent trike? http://www.greenspeed.com.au/ seem to be quite good (where i to buy a new one, i'd go for them).

in any case, go for an under-seat steering model, much more comfortable.
 
I'd say either hasebikes or optimabikes would fit your needs, +Sergey Brin. Not an owner of those recumbent bikes but I've seen quite a few of those pass by me (on a touring bike). They sure were fast!
However, I'd say try them on first if you're serious about it.
 
I've had a Catrike Road recumbent trike for seven years, and I'm very happy with it: http://www.catrike.com/catrike_road.html

You may want to check out their other models too. Great company, and trikes are a very fun way to get 'bent.
 
Have the folks in the machine shop make one out of Gbike parts. Who doesn't want a % project designing a new bike? Maybe test it against a rowing bike?
 
Bikes are awesome. Much better for the planet, you get a little exercise too.
 
How about a row bike that collapses into a crew style boat that holds your kite? 
 
Don't buy build it yourself it is much fun, educational and you connect with your bike. This will also build the trust you need in your bike when you bike down steep hills and valleys when you ask yourself will the brakes hold? >Are the screws tight. Cheers Dom
Def. get some DT Swiss wheel sets and eventually build a road bike with disc brakes and flat handlebar.
 
+Ben Courtney I guess we are all entitled to our own opinion, but I'd strongly disagree on that one. I expect if he had decided to follow your plan there would be more people who think he's being rude and or wasteful... I could be wrong.
 
Slovakia , best place slovak paradise :) but its more about mountain bikes
 
I'd guess the purpose of getting this particular style is to be able to take your laptop lunch with you, along for the ride. One hand for driving, one for coding eating. Perfect!
 
Challenge Bikes. http://goo.gl/e65Fw

Very high quality (also price), beautiful design.

Someone mentioned Catrike - they're also great and high quality. Their factory is in Central Florida and is an awesome example of lean manufacturing on a smaller scale (compared to Toyota).
 
Sergey, Get an Eliptigo.... www.elliptigo.com +Dylan Casey will still laugh at you, but they are great. Easy on your knees and lots of fun.
I got mine last year as a birthday gift to myself and really like it. And you are welcome in San Diego or Las Vegas anytime for a ride!
 
buy a solar powered one, and make it able to drive by itself.
 
Go for it, they are excellent fun. I have a Vision R40 which I would recommend, but the company making them closed it's doors a few years ago. But try to get something in that form factor, not too low so I'm comfortable in traffic, flexible (can have long or short wheel, under or over seat steering) and fine for general use or touring.
 
Not sure why so many people are suggesting mountain bikes when +Sergey Brin clearly said that he wants a road bike. While I'm clueless when it comes to recumbent bike builders, I'll just go ahead and add my two cents:

- When I went on my last long-distance ride (120 miles overnight), the only bikes which regularly managed to overtake were recumbent bikes, they're surprisingly snappy...
- Make sure you get a mount point in the cockpit for your cell phone - turn-by-turn directions on your bike, perfect for those longer rides or when you're not sure how to get home ;)
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Fr mtn biker: go MTB...
Also wiki
Critics of the recumbent design counter the claimed advantages with a number of disadvantages:
* Balance. Balance is generally more difficult on a recumbent bicycle due to the lower center of gravity. It is easier to balance with a higher center of gravity because of the "pendulum effect" (it is easier to minutely change the angle at which upright bicycles lean).[22] In addition, compared with riders of conventional bikes, two-wheeled recumbent riders have less scope for shifting their weight to steer or help balance the bicycle. As a consequence, riding at low speed and tight maneuvers can be more challenging on a recumbent. Of course, recumbent tricycles are a special case that are ideal for riders who cannot balance a two-wheeled bike.
* Starting and stopping. Because of the supine position, most recumbents do not allow the rider to push forward with the feet on the ground. This makes for slow starts and requires balance at low speed for a longer time. The recommended way to start an upright bicycle is by pushing off with one foot on the ground, and one foot on a high pedal.[23] This is particularly advantageous if the upright bicycle is next to a curb or similar object. Recumbents cannot be started with this recommended upright bicycle technique. Starting a recumbent does not require great strength; it is a matter of balance and a skill which must be learned. It is best to learn from an experienced rider, who can help with a little push at first. Several rides may suffice to become confident enough of one's starting and stopping skills before becoming ready to ride in traffic or perform uphill starts. Recumbent tricycles do not require balancing and hence do not require any special skill in this regard. With many recumbent seats quite low it is often easier to get a foot down onto the ground on stopping than is the case from a conventional bike with the saddle set high for optimum pedaling.
* Maneuverability. Most recumbents have a larger turning radius and combined with the greater difficulties of balance, tight and low-speed maneuvers can be difficult. It is also very hard to jerk the front wheel onto curbs. Since the front wheel is often small, driving up unlowered curbs is very risky even with suspension.
* Uphills. A perceived and much debated disadvantage of the recumbent position is that it is more difficult to ride up hills. This is most noticeable during the initial period of riding a recumbent when the legs are not yet trained for the different muscle requirements. On a traditional bicycle, the rider can stand on the pedals and pull against the handlebars, although on a recumbent the rider can push against the seat. On either style, higher cadence reduces leg strain and fatigue when climbing. Recumbent tricycles are a special case, as riders can climb almost any gradient of hill (subject to tire traction) with appropriate gearing since balance (and hence speed) is not a consideration.
* A few designers have attempted to build bikes which convert from recumbent to upright for climbs.[24] In practice the biggest difference is probably the additional weight of the recumbent layout combined with the difficulty of balancing a bike with a low center of gravity at speeds below about 5 mph (8 km/h).
* Length of the frame. Some recumbent bicycle designs use longer frames than conventional bicycles. This generally results in a weight penalty and in more flexing of the frame that causes a loss of power .[citation needed] The chain is two to three times as long as an upright and usually requires one or more idler pulleys. There is a small amount of friction in such pulleys which also reduces power slightly. Longer frame designs are more difficult to transport if the bikes are shipped, or put on racks on automobiles. Some manufacturers offer folding or break-apart designs, but these tend to be expensive. The longer distance from the handlebars to the wheels can be problematic for speedometers and cyclocomputers, including both wireless and hard-wired models. The distance from the handlebars to the crankset is likewise longer than a conventional bike and can give problems for cadence sensors.
* Constant position. While the riding position is comfortable and removes stress from the arms, it cannot easily be varied during a ride (as upright riders might stand for a hill), and some find that bottom brackets at or near hip level produces problems with cold or numb feet. Some riders suffer "recumbent butt," a pain in the gluteal muscles caused by their increased effort while being compressed. This can usually be addressed by adjusting the seat angle and pedal position. In a more reclined position, the weight is spread evenly between the back and buttocks. The rider of a conventional bike can stand up on the pedals to allow his legs to take up the shock of a severe bump in the road. The recumbent rider cannot (although many designs include suspension to alleviate this).
* Visibility of the road. The distance from the eyes to the front end is somewhat larger than an upright, and also the rider cannot lean forward. This leads to a bad insight angle at sharp corners. (Car drivers have the same problem, though less acute, since they are closer to the middle of the street.) In some designs - notably low-racers - the rider is also significantly lower than on a conventional bicycle and so visibility can often be obscured by fences, parked cars, etc. It is also a bit more difficult to glance back which can be addressed by adding helmet or handlebar mirrors.
* Visibility of the bicycle. In urban traffic, many recumbent bikes are below the eye level of many automobile drivers, although proponents suggest that the relative novelty of the design helps make drivers more conscious of them. Recumbent commuters often add flags, lighting, and reflective material to their bikes and gear to enhance visibility, and many refer to being able to see eye-to-eye with the automobile drivers as an advantage.[25]
* Price. Recumbents are generally 10 - 15% more expensive than upright bikes of equivalent quality.[citation needed] Most are hand-built in comparatively small runs by independent manufacturers, usually with high specification components. At the low end, the vast majority of upright bikes sell for less than the cost of the cheapest new recumbent.
* Nonstandard design. Recumbents often have radically different shapes from diamond-frame bikes, so conventional bike racks, automobile carriers, accessories, and locks do not fit in the usual ways. Additionally the designs are difficult to mount in traditional bicycle work stands and often require a second person during derailleur adjustments to spin cranks that are too far from the shift controls and derailleur locations. Some bicycle mechanics may be reluctant to work on "nonstandard" bicycle designs.
* Safety. Although recumbent bicycles are generally considered safer than upright bicycles (as noted above), they do have some specific safety issues. A type of injury characteristic of recumbents called "leg suck" occurs when a foot touches the ground and the bike runs forward over the contact point, causing ligament damage and, in some cases, ankle fractures.[citation needed] The use of clipless pedals reduces this possibility by preventing the foot from slipping off the pedal. But with clipless pedals, remaining clipped in during a front tire or wheel failure at high speeds can result in the recumbent rolling over the rider and taking a clipped in leg or legs with it. This scenario, although very rare, can create severe spiral fractures of the femur rarely seen with upright bicycles.[citation needed]
* Overlap of heels with the front wheel during tight turns with some short wheelbase (SWB) and some compact long wheelbase (CLWB) design is known as "heel strike." This is only evident during tight turns and can be avoided by lifting the heel or pausing pedaling. It is similar in many respects to "toe strike" in upright designs, which is similarly dependent upon design, implementation, size of feet and their position on the pedal and the presence or otherwise of fenders/mudguards.
 
Think of your reputation Sergey. Don't do it! ;-)
 
Safety and comfort is key here, man. Good luck.
 
My wife's experience with the Catrike was not so good for her. The trike itself was a good quality trike; however, she was way low on the ground and worried about being invisible; and she just never quite got the hang of it and could not keep up with other cyclists on the trike.
 
There's no getting air on a recumbent (more than once) don't do it - unless you are getting a walker to play roller hockey with and you think they'd be a good pair. Get a carbon full suspension mountain bike - if you want to really maximize the cool factor get a bamboo sustainable design.

If you get a recumbent you'll need to change your profile picure from the cool, bad a**, free fall to the recumbent with big orange flag and compressed view of any middle age paunch you might be sporting.
 
I have Cruzbike Silvio, an Australian design with a US and international profile. My story to the Silvio is at: http://www.cruzbiking.com.au/threetwoone No orange flag required - normal road bike wheels and front wheel drive. US patented design. Ticks all my boxes.
 
I just wondering how to collapse the long comments.
 
I've never ridden one (despite having 16 bikes in the garage), but would like to know what you go for and what you think of it.
 
Use some good search engines to find your result...... like Bing (Because Its Not Google) #lol
 
Sad that a number of comments are suggesting he search for it. Perhaps

"It seems there are a number of small companies making these. Anyone have any recommendations?"

suggests that he already did.

I think it's a sincere question that also demonstrates the power of G+ for getting information not available in any search.

That being said, if you really want to search for it, make these changes in chrome first so it searches G+

http://goo.gl/F9ryo
 
Recumbents are not so good on hills. Exercises a different set of muscles from a standard bicycle.
 
i was just thinking a recumbant pedal exercise system in the car would be great... and that would charge the battery!
 
Sorry - just picked this up from Max .. Anyway - we could do a Titanium frame recumbent with good build. If you're interested then just ping me. I think the Easy Racer Javelin would fit into your idea pretty well.
 
As an Austrian I say KTM :) anyway, please post a picture as soon as you got your new bike!
 
If you absolutely need s recumbent, get a trike.
 
Sir: I personally recommend this recumbent if I were purchasing one today.

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hey sergey, ever thought of a bike-trike?
http://www.steintrikes.net/
no, i'm not affiliated with the company, just had an interview with one of them once. nice guys, and they know about bikes.
 
Get a flag for better visibility :P
 
OK there are so many bike shops in London, that I cannot see anything except bikes any more... What is more interesting is how you include those links to other profiles inside a message?
 
ok, got it. + and then name. nice feature
 
Thanks everyone, I am also looking into these bikes.

It would be helpful for anyone interested in these bikes to be able to find this conversation in search results. 
 
+sergey brin being a geek is okay; being a dork is not.

If you do this even +Dylan Casey cannot save you from that fate
 
I would also exercise caution on a recumbent in the US, dangerous place to ride any kind of bike but especially a recumbent. Guy I knew pedalled right around Australia on a recumbent, so they're great for long distance and they are wonderfully efficient. I've never really got the hang of them and would definitely urge some good test rides on different models, as there are a variety of styles and for anyone used to a lifetime of Safety Bicycling they take a bit of adjustment (same for Ordinary Bicycles though) ... personally I'm more of a fan of electric bikes too :) I'm sure you've got some great recommendations, good luck and ride safe!
 
It depends why you want to get one. Power uphill can be a problem, and as you say, visibility.

You might also find bikefriday.com interesting.

By the way, I've had your dad as a visiting lecturer in a course at UMCP. :)

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You should buy a bike company and then make them build the bike you really want :-P 
 
Make sure you put a tall pole with a red flag on it so that you can be seen
 
My co-worker and friend Fletch is biking down the Mississippi right now on a recumbent. He seems to be pretty happy about the whole situation, and you can follow his journey here: http://biketwain.com/
 
+Sergey Brin : Velomobiles (you've certainly heard of them) are a bit of a 70's look but also give a slow Formula 1 feel :) - at least good combination of comfort and safety, but doesn't have the openness of a "bike"
 
+Sergey Brin I assume you Googled it,
As you typed in your query other keywords magically appeared to fill out the search.

Found a Bunch of Paid results, and some organic results.

You saw reviews, but that seemed gamed. I assume you were logged into Google, and may have gotten personalized results, or even IP Based Results and maybe even someone in your social circle gave a site a Plus One.. You saw related keywords, Videos, Images, news, Local stores, Shopping results, Trends etc.

Yet with all that data, manipulation, and results you still ask for Opinions of the Public.

Humm - That's extremely telling.

Isn't that the definition of a Google Search FAIL?
 
You really should talk to someone who sizes bikes. Check at chain reaction they would have a good rec.
 
Get one with a bookstand that can handle reading device of your preference. I lost 20 lb that way :)
 
I'll second the recommendation for Bacchettas as good bikes (having had a Giro 20 since back when it was just called a Giro, 2001ish), but only the Carbon Aero comes close to your weight requirement. Weight aside, when I was in much worse shape than I am now, I was passing more of the macho spandex crowd on the Giro than I do now on my upright bike. I'm pretty sure getting passed all the time is what makes them hate on 'bents so much as in the comments above.

Hills are not a problem: you use a low gear and spin like mad, which is a good skill to acquire (ask Lance Armstrong). The folks saying you "use a different set of muscles" are correct, but once you've ridden for a while, you've built those muscles up and you're fine. Likewise, your knees will be fine if you use a low gear and adjust the seat position properly.

With the Bacchettas, which have a high seating position for a recumbent, there isn't really the visibility problem that people think there is: people pay more attention because you're on something unusual, though a certain percentage will pause to scream at you because you're "not visible".

I did switch to a fixed-gear for my city commute because the Giro is a challenge and a worry to lock up---there's no loop on the frame to mate the lock with.
 
My recumbent helped me lose 200 pounds - a traditional bike is hard on the knees and back for out of shape folks. RANS is a great recumbent-maker; I've got the Tailwind, myself.
 
note to Sergey: The custom built bike mentioned above will set you back $30 k....!
 
call me a traditionalist, but the recumbent bike looks pretty constrained. i can imagine they are quite speedy on flats; however, on steep climbs you're stuck. a few days ago i saw a guy going up moody road in one. looked miserable. no possibility to stand up or change positions. more like being strapped into a weight room leg press for the climb. would be curious about the rationale for buying, sergey.
 
Google + should have a way of burying the irrelevant comments and digging up the best.
 
cannondale; really comfortable, high quality, and reasonably priced though that really doesn't matter that much.
 
+Sergey Brin, you need to contact my friend Ashley with Utah Trikes. They sell nationwide and sell stock and custom recumbant bikes. Ashley is a really cool guy and he has a really cool company. See: www.utahtrikes.com
 
I have a modified terratrike. I added the high speed drive. I'd have liked to have added the internal 8 gears, but it was out of my price range at the time. If I had waited a year, then I'd have had it....oh well.


What I really wanted though was the blue velo quest modified with an electric drive system from here (http://www.electricrider.com/crystalyte/phoenixiikit.htm). This IMO would represent a commuter car that is human powered with either electric assist or just use the electric system. Either way you will go fast and keep up with traffic. With the electric motor added and the aerodynamicness of the quest, I dont see why this couldnt go into mass production today by an automaker. The price could definitely come down from the $10k + $1200 for the electric motor. I bet it could come down by half or more if it were mass produced.

By itself, this sort of vehicle could replace cars on the road and dramatically reduce our dependence on foreign oil. You get the speed of a car in a small footprint. Since it is actually a trike, balance isnt an issue. You are in a sitting position. You would have tremendous range on the electric motor given the aerodynamic design. Win-win for everyone.

If you get it and like it enough, send me one. I know I will get one someday, just today is not that day. :o)
 
Brother Brin, I would try the Rowbike developed by Scott Olson, the founder of Rollerblades. You can get all the comfort performance and safety. The bikes have been around for sometime.---> http://goo.gl/7GgRC
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You need one of those silly flags so that people know where to point when they laugh. :) Easy Racers ( easyracers.com ) in Watsonville makes some nice ones and you can go ride them around the neighborhood by the airport to check them out if you drop by. That part alone is kind of fun.
 
+sergey brin - Check out the Optibike from Boulder, Colorado! 
 
You guys are gonna need to come up with some kind of moderation system for those comments. This is insane 
 
Two questions you're going to have to ask yourself on a reci: long vs short wheelbase, and hands-up vs hands-down (http://sheldonbrown.com/recumbents.html). For me, it's all about how it feels. Try out all four combinations and see what, if anything, feels good (the folks over in 1350, and your fellow Googlers have a few you can test drive).
 
I ride a ATS Vision R40 and love it but it is no longer made. You can ignore those people saying cars won't see you, I find recumbents attract attention as they are still unusual. You will see better as you will sit in a much more natural position and do not have to strain your neck to look at oncoming traffic. The design and most of the equipment to make these Vision series were purchased by the http://www.hostelshoppe.com who make their own Volae brand recumbents. These are the only recumbent bikes that I am aware of that approach 20 pounds with the carbon fiber seats, most others exceed 30 pounds.
 
Hi +Sergey Brin ... we've chatted in person about my recumbent bike when I worked in B43; I'm now in Security at CL3-4 and I'm happy to chat in person if you would like. I ride a Volae Expedition and love the company and the quality of their build:
* http://www.volaerecumbents.com/2011/volae_expedition.php
20# is an aggressive weight target for a 'bent but is possible. If you plan to ride through stop-and-go traffic, I concur with Ivan Cockrum that a short wheelbase bike with a smaller front wheel is best:
* http://www.bacchettabikes.com/bikes/touring-commuting-bikes/giro-20
* http://www.volaerecumbents.com/2011/volae_century.php
But that's not making your weight target. :) If you get a highracer (two 26" or 650c wheels), you will have less convenient feet-on-the-ground stopping, but the offerings are more racing-oriented and thus lighter:
* http://www.bacchettabikes.com/bikes/performance-bikes/carbon-aero-2.0
Finally, more in the upright category but still pretty light, you might choose one of those:
* http://www.ransbikes.com/Stratus_XP_TI-N.htm
* http://www.easyracers.com/tirush.html
I'm not a great fan of the Easy Racers seats (my wife rides an Easy Racers Tour Easy) but they work for some folks and are very popular. Coming in somewhat in your weight budget is the latest Cruzbike:
* http://www.cruzbike.com/vendetta
The Cruzbike's front wheel drive "moving bottom bracket" format is actually not as impossible to ride as it looks, and it solves a lot of chain routing and posture issues.

My feeling is that you are likely to end up on a Carbon Aero ;) so I would start by talking to this dude:
* http://zachkaplancycles.com/

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This advice / offer to chat applies to other Googlers as well! :)
 
If you are looking for a recumbent bike to do the job of a high performance road bike then there are only a few choices. You mentioned not too low so that eliminates lowracers. The remaining choices are basically the format called hi-racers, and some outliers in other formats like the lwb mid-racers. To get a start I would look at:
1- Carbent Raven (or Seadragon) - hi-racer http://bentupcycles.com/product/carbent-hpv-raven-zr-891.htm US manufacturer, fast and light bike. Fixed seat angle so it isn't ideal for someone just starting out on recumbents as you probably don't know what you like yet. Seat is fixed to the frame and so is lower than other hi-racers. Which is an advantage for short people and provides better power transfer. The 650c version is the seadragon.
2- Bacchetta Carbon Aero 2.0 - hi-racer http://www.bacchettabikes.com/bikes/performance-bikes/carbon-aero-2.0 US Manufacturer, fast and light bike. Record setting bike. Excellent resale value, great bike if you are tall enough to ride it, my shorty legs make me uncomfortable in traffic on it. The Raven above is better if you are shorter. Available in both 650c and 700c versions.
3- Bacchetta Corsa - see above, this is the AL version of the Carbon Aero.
4- RANS X-Stream - LWB Mid-racer, http://www.ransbikes.com/X-Stream.htm This bike rocked RAAM 2009, the 4 man team using the X-Stream was amazing. This is a longer bike with the BB behind the front wheel unlike the hi-racers above. It is AL frame and RANS is a US manufacturer. RANS and Bacchetta are actually run by brothers and there is some competition between them like most brothers. This is a great bike that will be harder to transport than the hi-racers but is quite fast. 650c and 26" versions are both available.

If you start looking at European manufacturers then the M5 Carbon Midracers, M5 Carbon Hi-racer, Optima Hi-Baron, Raptobike Mid-Racer, Cruzbike (Australian) Vendetta and more are all options as well.

The LWB format is basically an American one so most of the bikes outside of the US will be SWB format which basically means the pedals are in front of the front wheel. European bikes tend to have more S or Z shaped frames and US ones often have stick frames.

Comments about visibility are ill-informed, any of these bikes are going to be eye-to-eye-level with the bulk of drivers. All of the bikes listed are in the 18-27 lb range.

Good luck. Duncan
 
You're not Asperger's enough to succumb to a recumbent Sergey!
 
A recumbent would be great in the Netherlands, soo nice and flat but on the hills it doesn't look so comfy. If I were buying one I'd test it out on hills and flats and think about where I'd want to ride.
 
Im with +Cameron Siguenza on this one.
 
kesler sl - you'll dig it, i guarantee it
 
Rock On! I am never on safe enough roads to ride to ride a recumbent but they are much faster than bicycles and can be so much fun. The problem is that many have steering set-ups that are not intuitive and are very hard to operate at low speeds (all handle well when you get up to speed). Like a racing shell (rowing) there aren't too many places to use recumbents they are different and really great in their own way. I envy you spending a day test riding and finding the perfect recumbent.
 
please dont, you're a young man much like myself; maybe younger (im 42) and i ride a proper road bike.
 
I started looking at recumbent trikes last season and have yet to talk my wife into letting me get one. +Sergey Brin She'd laugh at me too! These 2 sites have helped me with reviews of recumbents [2 & 3 wheel variants].
http://www.bentrideronline.com
http://www.utahtrikes.com
The best advice I've been givin... and judging by ALL THE SUGGESTIONS on this thread... is to get on a few and try them out. That's the best way to decide.

For pure eye candy check these 2 beauty out:
http://www.challenge-recumbents.com/index.php?language=en&selection=trike-en

- I save $5/day in gas commuting on my road bike to work.
 
I recommend the Tour Easy. Get one with a faring for sure for when you ride in the rain, also will make you super fast downhill, also you will look v. v. cool. Fun to ride, easy to ride, none of the "fighting eagles off with my feet" look that some recumbents have. Also, a local company! As an added bonus, little kids will adore you.
http://www.easyracers.com/crush.html
 
You know, I've been considering the recomfy bike myself.
Roc Wu
 
don't care about the bike thing, keep a mark for when the thread reach the limit
 
It is very hard to join G+,Because GFW,
 
I have a cannondale road bike and i can not imagine a better road bike. I'd also recommend trek and specialized. Those 3 are the big name road bike companies and they're probably the best there is! Hope that helps.
 
HP Velotechnik StreetMachine GTe. It's a bt heavy, but the suspension is great, and the small front wheel means that you can make turns while pedaling uphill--in this situation your feet may hit the wheel with other bikes. Under-seat steering and electric assist are available as well. If you don't care for a suspension or USS, and you don't mind a large front wheel interfering with your pedalling while turning uphill, than a Bacchetta is also an option.
 
Terrible for hill climbing.
 
I second Sean's suggestion. here is a link to http://www.elliptigo.com/ and I posted a photo on my page. I myself prefer a good mountain bike, as I end up going up and down the curbs a bit.
 
My current road bike sucks. I wish I could be as rich as you and buy whichever one I wanted 
 
+Sergey Brin No, why would anybody laugh at you, also when you go cycling make sure you wear your Knit Clown T-Shirt and your hoppy feet. Dude, man up - get a 21 speed mountain bike.
 
sorry but no. that is dork overload unless you are 90+ years old.
 
How can a recumbant bike possibly have good visibility? It's not how well you can see so much as how well others can see you. Have you tried an ecliptic bike? It's like cross-country skiing. What we need is a foldable ecliptic bike, then it would be the future.
 
Hey sergey .... " THE GOOGLE GUYS " .... Wanna thank you for giving us GOOGLE.... You guys already made history and drafted future......
 
I can recommend some really nice ones - what's your budget ;)
 
& BTW - Love the Edit Function - it really rocks!
 
Billionaires actually think about purchases before making them? Especially for bicycles? I learn something new everyday i guess!
 
Rather buy an electric motorcycle and ride it like you stole it!
You can't have a profile picture of you skydiving and talk about buying a recumbent on the same page!
 
I road a Rans Rocket for a year or so because I heard recumbents were far more comfortable. Well, they are right. It was like riding a La-Z-Boy recliner. Unfortunately, it was about as much fun, too. No matter how far or how fast I went, I didn't get the feeling of freedom and speed I get on an upright bicycle. It was unsatisfying.
 
just learned the meaning of recumbent. never mind.
 
I can recommend the HP Velotech Street Machine with under-seat-steering. Its. Upright enough to be seen in traffic and have visibility yourself, flat enough to get some good speed. The Radius Hornets is not bad either, I have one myself.
The Nazca Pioneer looks very got, too. It has 26" wheels in front and back and thus good maneuverability, but I have not tried one yet.
When you get one, post some pics.
 
http://www.bike123.com/ is the best 'bent shop I've ever seen. You can ride many brands there, and our local countryside is really beautiful. Maybe next time you're in the DC area it'd be worth a stop.
 
That's the first time I've seen 3 wheel ones. Very cool.
 
Try Green Gear Cycling, Inc. They'll make your bike to order, even should you want it to fit in a suit case like their Bike Friday bike can do.
 
If you are comfortable balancing a recumbent, under seat steering gives a neutral hand/arm position and a wonderfully unobstructed view. I like upright bikes for going fast, MTBs for dirt and rocks, but if I was going on an epic tour I'd want one of these: http://www.slywayprojects.com/prodotti.aspx
Particularly the explorer USS. That's a handsome chunk of aluminum.
 
沙发和板凳都是景德镇的!
 
Good lord, that's a lotta comments. You probably wont' see this. 8^) I have had a Rans Stratus for about 1.5 years, and I love it. When riding it I can skip the bike shorts, the padded gloves, and even the helmet. Hill climbing is difficult, but in general it's very fast.
The Easy Racers factory is close by in Watsonville, they had some really nice looking carbon fiber frame bents that you could lift with a finger.
 
楼上的尼玛抢毛抢,就知道抢沙发!!!
 
Wow. That's a lot of comments! Lisa is right in that you should try several personally, as a lot of it is personal preference. It also has a lot to do with how you plan to use the bike. Will it be primarily for long rides in rural settings or will it be a more all-around bike you plan to ride in traffic in the city? Things like seat height and ease of putting your feet on the ground come into play then. I had a Lightning P-38 and it was a great and surprisingly versatile bike. The primary positive for me was comfort. It's so much more natural a position for long rides. I could go 60-70 miles and experience no pain in any joints -- a real luxury if you ride a lot of miles versus the unnatural body position of a diamond-frame bike. My advice is to think long and hard about how you want to use the bike -- then go to a shop that specializes in recumbents so you'll have a lot of test rides to choose from. Then ask the sales folks a lot of questions. Be warned, however, that very few recumbent bikes are in the "20ish pounds" range. They exist but are pricey. But when you hit 50mph on a downhill and can take corners with ease without worrying about going over the handlebars, it's worth it!
 
if i were u i would make myself one with the look of a google doodle with the 2 o's of google as the wheels and such haha
 
怎么收起评论啊
 
recommendation: reynolds 953 steel frame + campagnolo groupsets.
 
景德镇的居民很喜欢沙发!
 
Don't worry about it...
I will help forward this question to my 3000 fans....
Ken Fu
 
哈哈哈哈哈哈
 
Just go try out a whole bunch of different designs and see which one you like the best -- it will be way more fun than reading all the comments to this post! Besides, everyone on here is just posting what they initially learned from a Google search.
 
As others have already said, I would recommend a trike. I've been riding a Bike Friday SatRDay folding recumbent bike (which is no longer made) for the last few years, and while I find it comfortable, it's just way too difficult going uphill (and there are a lot of hills around where I live), so I've decided to get a trike -- my husband has a Greenspeed GT3 and says that not having to balance makes a lot of difference on steep hills, as you can go as slowly as you need to and even stop and start again while going uphill. So, a couple of weekends ago I tried out an Ice trike and an HP Velotechnik Gekko. Both were really nice rides; the Ice has a suspension so it's really, really smooth, but I ended up ordering the Gekko because it folds and unfolds in under 10 seconds, and being able to fit it into the car was one of my criteria for a trike...that and a relatively small fold, so we can fit both my husband's and mine into the car at the same time.

If you will not need to transport your new bike or trike by car, you have a fair number of options, many of which have been mentioned in the above comments (Catrike seems pretty popular, for example). But if you will need to haul it anywhere and, like me, you don't like dealing with bike racks (not sure how they'd work with recumbents anyway, though I imagine someone probably makes one that will hold them), you might want to consider one of the folding models, like the Gekko, the Ice, or the Greenspeed.

Regardless, the best thing to do is to find a bike store that carries recumbents (around here we're lucky enough to have a couple of good local shops), and go try some out -- both bikes and trikes. This is not something you want to buy without taking it for a spin first. And make sure you try it on at least one steepish uphill to see how it handles and how you can tolerate it. And if you go for a bike rather than a trike, be aware that there is a learning curve -- it took several weeks for me to get used to the SatRDay.
 
我是来围观1楼的……^ ^
余翔
 
过来围观1楼~~
Leo To
 
景德镇人民强力围观
 
The best thing to do is find a dealer (probably a small shop) that you can trust, and buy a bike that is easy to get parts for. Many recumbents are made by small companies, so they don't have the reliability of the big brands. They are tons of fun to ride though. Mine was a long wheel base below the bar steering bike. Totally relaxing to ride.
 
While I don't own one I've heard good things about these guys:


Rocky Mountain Recumbent‎
2111 S College Ave # G
Fort Collins, CO 80525-5404
(970) 221-4838
springcreekrecumbents.com‎
 
Find a bike shop, make fitting, and try different material. Aluminum, carbon, steel, titanium...
Carbon shoul be more suitable and cool, but I like titanium and steel. Just try.
I like bicycle too, Wellcome to join us!
 
Come to Nepal and ride a bike in Nepalese bz nd crowded road. Hope you never seen before..
 
来看沙发。。。
Wen Tai
 
Mom, I am here~~(waving hands)
 
I've always wanted a recumbent bike. My wife laughs at me every time I bring it up...
 
我是来看沙发的~
 
Hire a sherpa to pull you around, then trade places sometimes...
刘勇
 
来看沙发的~~~
 
Larry Page may have a Vagina. If I were Larry Page I would be doing Bruce Wayne type stuff. This man is a co-founder of Google and pretty much has unlimited resources at his disposal if he chooses to use it. Hopefully he has maintained his wealth for himself. Otherwise he will continue to live in the constant threat of begging relatives.
 
It is a privilege writing on Larry Page's wall. He will read it, and he is a billionaire. This is why life is beautiful.
wan jie
 
呵呵,看到布林同学被围观了,不过还是有不少靠谱的单车推荐,有些还很专业。既然来了就顺便问下, google apps用户何时再开放 google+ ,谢谢!
 
天朝的沙发 哈哈
安澜
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靠谱的单车让我看花了眼……
 
Dude don't get recumbent, get a real bicycle. Recumbents are for older geeks
叶畅
 
中国人民在哪里?
叶畅
 
攻占了吧
 
Recumbents are nice, but check out Grabtown's Carva - fun as heck as you can carve it up on pavement like you're on slalom skis, stable and safe 3-wheel platform w/ customizable ride characteristics, designed for performance and ergonomics, full-body cardio, fraction of a recumbent's cost... No matter what, live it up outdoors! We're so blessed! http://www.grabtownlife.com/
 
Just go to Wallmart and get a generic Next Mountain Bike for about sixty bucks, then take it to your favorite bike shop and put an extra 15 speeds on it for a few extra dollars....or you can play the billionaire boys club, and have one custom built, but where is the fun it that???
 
Don't. Google share price will plummet if people think you are in imminent danger of getting squidged into the road by some yahoo in a humongous automobile.
 
It turns out you get more exercize on a Costco mountain bike And drivers can see you.
 
刚才还在纠结要不要搞个头像,不要被google给和谐了,刚发现+Sergey Brin也不用头像,我也就不纠结了。别说,我这个老鹰风筝和他还有点像
 
路过来看看沙发的。。。
 
Ah..the barcalounger of bikes! Have fun!
 
Serge, there is no comfortable bike. At best you have to have 2 or 3 (different styles) and switch between them depending on where and why ride on that particular day. At some point in the future maybe you can help with a total bicycle redesign. Easy enough to redesign the look of the thing but the mechanics of it are what really needs a serious review.
 
Challenge Fujin SL is a great choice if you like going out in the mountains. It has a good body position and steering character for climbing. Mine is dressed up as a trekking bike, still well below 12 kg, which will be less in the future. I did more than 9000 km with it in Scandinavia, carrying tent, sleeping bag and everything.
 
Oh, for those who think a regular bicycle is more visible: If you think drivers will see you on your upright, you make a dangerous miscalculation. The chance of not being seen is just to big on any type of bicycle to count on your visibility.
However, ten years of experience on lowracers and semi-lowracers have brought me to the conclusion the visibility of a recumbent is actually better than a regular bike. This has nothing to do with the heigth, but the simple fact drivers have more respect for something that looks fast. But I still think of them as being all blind, deaf and stupid. Better prepare for the worst.
曹操
 
+ljm z景德镇人民在G+上真多啊
 
My choice was Azub MAX from www.azub.cz. And after 3 years experience could recomend this bike. Its realy stable, visible in trafic, easy to ride and usable on better trails, but it depends on rider. Simply,I love it.
 
A lot of great suggestions have already been made, so I won't repeat what they've said, but the one builder I haven't seen mentioned is Zockra who make some drop-dead gorgeous bikes: http://www.recumbentjournal.com/blog/item/393-gallery-zockra.html

However, they might be lower than you desire. Of everything suggested, I'd say focus in on the Bacchetta Carbon Aero 2.0 or any of the Carbent bikes (which are made near LA).
 
Get the best: TiRush from Easy Racers. I owned and ran one of the largest recumbent shops in the US a few years back and can attest to the best. Trikes: Go Greenspeed (Ian Sims is a friend of mine) and GS is the best around. Don't listen to the lame misinformation from those who don't know what recumbents are about or what they can do (like hold all the human powered land speed records). And the lack of visibility is absurd...you would see a coffee cup if it was sitting in the middle of the road, let alone something that stands out like a fast rider on a recumbent. Those denouncing have too much ego to protect.
 
Hi Sergey,

I've got about 7500 miles on my Reynolds Wishbone lowracer. I have a kind of love-hate relationship with it: handles like a Ferrari but engineered like a knee. I threw together a list of things I hope for on my next bike, and it sounds at least superficially like your desiderata: I'm looking for a "sport commuter" that is exciting to ride but also useful and safe. So perhaps we have some design goals in common.

http://ml.cs.colorado.edu/~ben/bike/#nextbike

Perhaps you'd consider opening a Google Human-Powered Transportation Lab? I'll apply right after I finish the Ph.D. ;)
 
Bacchetta Corsa SS. But don't pop for the carbon seat. The aeromesh is more comfy and weight trade-off is un-noticeable.
 
景德鎮+1,儘早研發衛星網路啊。
 
Consider a delta recumbent trike like the Hase Kettweisel or Greenspeed Anura for stability and the ability to join in trike trains. Recumbent trikes, both delta amd tadpole, are like riding around in lounge chairs. no need to balance when you stop, either.
 
He(Zockra) builds some very nice custom carbon-fiber recumbent:

http://malricsworld.blogspot.com/

I ride a Volae ES Myself, folds well for travel and touring. I got my shares of various bicycles. Don't think that riding a recumbent is really that dorky. I think we cross that line long ago when we put on our first pair of Lycra shorts, not to mention the skin tight and overly gay and colorful jerseys, and those time spend in the bathroom with a razor shaving our legs. Worry not my recumbent friends, our upright friends are not that far away. :-)
 
I have enjoyed my Meta Bike quite a bit over the last year. The bike is very visible in traffic and has twin 700cc wheels (the same found on a normal road bike.) The bike is light and very quick as a result I have successfully completed multiple sub five hour century bike rides since purchasing the bike. Good Luck in your search. I will be interested to see what bike you choose.
http://www.meta-bikes.com/
 
I agree with +Tom Moxon , from the short description of what you've described that you'd like in a bike I think the Lightning P-38 would a tough one to beat. Imho, it's well balanced features along with it's ride quality would be hard to beat.
 
There's only four companies that are worth looking at which produce bikes that would meet your criteria. Bacchetta, M5, Zockra and Carbent. A forum where you can find a wealth of information is BROL. www.bentrideronline.com
 
Hello Sergey,
I own a small speciality recumbent business in Petaluma, and also offer a home delivery demo service if desired. Have a look at the models displayed on my website homepage and let me know if any interests you.

I would also recommend getting in touch with Zach Kaplan Cycles, 510.522.BENT who has be in the bent biz since the early 90's and sold us our first two recumbents.
http://zachkaplancycles.com/

Bentrideronline.com has a thread running about what recumbent they'd recommend for you :)
http://www.bentrideronline.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=74735

Regards,
~Nanda Holz
Petaluma CA
925.301.7043
www.spincyclz.com
onyourleft@spincyclz.com
...our service revolves around you
 
+1 for Bachetta. I own a Strada and love it exactly because it combines the features you mentioned; if I wasn't moving across continents regularly (or I had your budget!) I'd buy one of the higher end carbon ones mentioned above in a heartbeat. I know recumbents are have a reputation of geekiness: I appreciate your endorsement because it might improve their cool factor, the way you improved the coolness of Tesla and Vibram Five Fingers.

Oh, look, talking in words, isn't it fun? of course, this is a PR firm, most likely. In general, the Google+ asymmetric relationships set up a weird dynamic -- is this following, Twitter style, or befriending, Facebook style? I thought the former -- I put you in my "following" circle, because you were first in my "people you might know" list, which means all my friends are following you. So why shouldn't I? "What's so freaky about following someone all my friends are following, after all?" I thought. "Nothing bizarrely stalker-ish about that. And then: why not answer a question about recumbents? My Strada truly is one of my most beloved possessions." But this discussion is oddly Facebook-like, too intimate really for "following". So I feel like a weird stalker after all. There is the nagging suspicion that this "too intimate" discussion is really with a PR firm. It is somewhat unsettling, and a bit unpleasant.

My well-worn copy of "Beyond Good and Evil" says "The familiarity of one's superior makes one bitter because it cannot be reciprocated." The relationship asymmetry of Google Plus is brilliant in the way it makes the network both Facebook and Twitter at the same time --- and conversations like this put social product recommendations in Google's database, so it in your business interest to encourage them --- but it feels a bit wrong. If I ever resent Google, the way I so often resent Facebook, because I feel that its commercial ambitions distort the relationships I want to have, it would be over this "bitterness" Nietzche identifies (in his characteristically unvarnished way!) Still, it is such an improvement...
 
Ihave Rans tailwind and its served me well,no longer made goto rans.com alook ar tier current bikes good kuck
 
Hey Sergey... I have a Lightning P38. http://www.lightningbikes.com/ The guy who makes them is down in Lompoc (just north of Santa Barbara). He has several models you can test-ride in the parking lot or beyond - his shop is just a warehouse space; no signage or anything, very low-key. I got the model that takes apart to fit in a suitcase, thinking I'd take it with me places. I did take it up to Tahoe once, and being able to "break" the frame was nice for fitting it into a compact car, but otherwise, I haven't totally stuffed it back into the suitcase since I got it... the downside of that take-apart frame is if you try to lock the bike somewhere, you have to lock both sections. There are so many removable pieces, it's a security nightmare. I tried to find the recumbent place in Alameda somebody mentioned above - I ended up getting there after the guy was closed I think; or something - all I saw was the house, and decided not to go back. +Siamak Masnavi
 
The original post was Jul 20th so I've got to think he's bought something by now! I found this post by complete accident using google+ search. I actually ride a long wheel based Burley (not made anymore) that I picked up on a whim simply because it was a great deal. I've fallen in love with the Recumbent style and got some great ideas for my next bike from some of your posts on this thread! Thanks!
 
be very careful WHERE you ride, cars don't kill, dumb drivers do.....
 
254 Plus One's. hmm...pretty impressive. ..strange...and impressive....
 
Wow! What a lot of comments. And half of them are rubbish. I will make two pieces of advice from my perspective as both a recumbent rider and someone who has ridden as much as 200 miles at a time on a Diamond Frame bike.
1.) Don't listen to the people who have never ridden a recumbent saying how dangerous/silly/stupid/slow they are. They don't know what they are talking about.
2.) Find a good recumbent dealer that carries several brands and styles and will let you test ride them. Most will. There are probably only about a dozen really good recumbent shops in the country. Regular bike shops are useless for advice on a recumbent.
 
Coming late to the party, I'll agree with +Al Gritzmacher : try a few out. Preferences vary. I prefer under-seat steering on aesthetics alone, but I ride a long-wheelbase over-seat-steering home-built. Sold the mountain bike long ago. Air? I want long rides without certain nerves being pressed too long. Also in agreement that non-recumbent riders have no stats to back up their "less safe" claims. A recumbent rider is at eye-level with car drivers, and makes eye contact easily. Also, the unusual is more easily seen. And I had no problem even the first minute with a recumbent, nor any problem on hills. (The fact is, almost anyone can bench-press more than his or her own weight, but no one can step down with more than his or her own weight, so one can always apply more torque to a recumbent's pedals than to an upright's.) Given the questioner's identity and means, I'd ask Terry Osell (a Minneapolis frame-builder who does beautiful work) to come out of retirement for a made-to-order tailored-to-the-inch job. Osell's welds are to lust after.
 
I've ridden in traffic - frankly, I don't like riding an upright nor a recumbent in traffic; either way, too many people just aren't paying attention. Regarding overall safety - I have a plate on my shoulder-blade to show that upright bikes are inherently more dangerous for the rider in terms of injury during accidents. The center of gravity is high and you tend to go over handlebars (been there). A/C separation (shoulder) is one of the more common physical injuries from (upright) bicycle accidents. Getting doored can be fatal. On a recumbent, your feet are out front to catch you rather than landing on your head. Believe me, in my accident I was going between 15-20 mph and it happened so fast I only figured out I had flipped from the way my (upright) bicycle frame was bent and the bruises that marked places my body hit the pavement.
 
Be a man Serge, just dustoff your old hardtail mountain bike.
 
I like the short wheelbase type that is popular in Europe. P38 would suit your needs. Takes some getting use to but will love the view from the bike.
 
This product is definitely not a recumbent bike, it's not even a bike. You will be able to go just about any where as the videos on the site show.
The cost is high, therefore as much as I would love to have them I don't. Here is a link to the site of the developer.
If any of you have tried these, I'd love to here your opinions.
http://www.chariotskates.com/
 
I think we should make our own, I think you said that? Man, I am extremely stupid sometimes! You offered me a job! You're my hero! My dumbass was like, "Yo I have got to research the genius(es) behind Google, I bet I'm gonna run into them one of these days and have no clue who I'm talking to because I'm fuckin stupid sometimes" and then I met you! I was that cat drilling his bicycle's seat post... Damn! Ah man.. At least I would've won that bet? Ha!! I'd thought of saying, "you don't want a recumbent in Portland, you'll get hit!" but then I felt I'd curse your chances, "omen" it up or something, so I didn't, I should've said it.. And taught you to hop a mt. bike.. Thank you so very much for being so extremely kind that I was sort of (read:a lot) surprised. I've been researching (all thanks to you! Read: I'm a fuckin' idiot sometimes!) all sorts of things that when I'd bring up in conversation, I'd basically get treated like a psycho and have people get all weirded out and look at me with a face like: (O.o). Roughly. ~ So.. Yeah.. Ever heard of "Electron therapy devitalization" or "Apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy"? Perhaps those will save many lives and a lot of money on your electricity bill? Or what about "magneto-caloric effect"? Perhaps you want to try and eliminate all radioactive waste world wide too? Apparently the radioactive ions separate upon exposure to magnetic fields, I wonder if exposure to a super-high intensity field would enable an acceleration to the half-life cycle, perhaps on a scale of exponents? I dunno...
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