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I'm still struggling with where RSS and blogs fit into this new world of Facebook and Google+ so I wrote a letter to +Dave Winer and +Fred Wilson to help me get back into that world.
A note to Dave Winer and Fred Wilson. October 30, 2011 By Robert Scoble Leave a Comment. Hi Dave and Fred,. Dave, I've been away from your RSS for a while now. Heck, I've been away from bloggi...
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I'm seeing reader integration for G+ Facebook shrugs dunno, you can subscribe now though, but whatevefr
 
People still read RSS? It died for me when Twitter went mainstream.
 
+Robert Scoble, your reasoning for being so caught up with posting more on Google+ is much the same reason that I looked into rolling out my Google+Blog concept. It allows many to keep the content flowing on their blog, yet still encourages viewers to engage in the conversation here on Google+. On pluss.es I am also going to be rolling out RSS in the coming weeks so that will allow people to feed their hosted blogs. I think that will only increase the engagement on G+, allowing those that follow the blogs on RSS to see the original location of the post (not just the blog) and encouraging them to participate.

With so many ways to deliver content, people should think about ways to make it as easy as possible. Content duplication might be seen as an issue to some, but what is more important, worrying about that, or giving the content you take so much time to create a greater audience?

(I'm also a big fan of RSS, but I would be much happier if all that content was curated on G+ and found in my stream.).
 
I agree that RSS is still a simple, fast and effective distribution system. But, even more interesting might be RSS x.x
 
I don't use RSS a ton although I do some for keeping up with more blogs than I honestly have time for. However, its postings like yours that are the reason some of us have looked at varying ways to pull the G+ public stream of an individual into Reader. Currently everything still feels very segregated. Perhaps that's only due to my lack of ipad. However I'd really love to have my wordpress blog be able to get comments that someone made on a post while they were right inside reader... or inside G+ etc. something that unifies yet lets people "live" wherever the heck they want to.
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You kind-of get the best of both worlds the way you did this post. Article on your blog, shared to G+. Keep comments turned off on the blog, but then you should go back and edit the article to put a permalink to this post at the bottom. That said, I do prefer reading the full-length post in here instead of jumping out, and hopefully someday your blog will get posts pulled from G+ via an API or extension (or shared-to yourself via email?) - nice site and idea +Daniel Treadwell
 
I'll definitely like the new Google Reader it if it causes a move away from people here on Google+ just basically using it to share their articles published elsewhere. :) I guess it would be nice if, just for an example, following +Arianna Huffington here got you stuff she personally wants to post and adding The Huffington Post to your RSS Reader gets you Huffington Post articles and rarely do the two meet...

It would require a serious "Gentlemen's (or Ladies) agreement" though, I guess.....and so many people seem to be about putting their stuff out there as much as possible.
 
+Robert Scoble, I wonder if this is a perception thing. I see Google+ comments as a group conversation, whereas blog comments are a response to the author, that is why I will always choose to post on here because I am interested in the discussion that follows just as much as the post itself.
 
My understanding is that RSS shall never twain Google+.

I asked a Googler that directly at one point early on, I don't recall who it was.
 
i think we could and should merge the two, but only a federated system like Diaspora could do that. +Robert Scoble have you tried Diapsora yet?

I imagine that blogs take on the characteristics of a Diaspora pod. So on your blog, using cookies, you would have the option to add it to one of your aspects (Diaspora's original version of circles)
 
+Robert Scoble thanks for the mention. I have been pretty busy of late, but there is an update coming for the WordPress plugin in the next couple of days. I also released a hosted platform for these blogs over at www.pluss.es that isn't WordPress, but just a semi-customisable blog view of your posts.

Let me know if you need any help with the plugin.
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Weird. I don't see a comment from Dave. Unless he's disguised as "Michel" ;)
 
Well just imagine the implications to search results if it were to happen +Robert Scoble ! All that stuff would be served up.
While I'm there - do people realize, every comment made on a public post in Google+ will come up in a search enginer result...
 
RSS is kinda 2000ish technology. This is 2011.
 
I agree this repackaging of GReader is really interesting. I've always thought sharing should be as close to the content as possible, and now here's everything together. We'll create content the same place it is discovered and consumed -- and RSS hold much of that together. Cool.
 
+Rohan Aurora - you mean where only closed proprietary platforms flourish? Where mainstream media simply puts a Facebook or twitter logo instead of a URL?

THAT future?
 
Just love the ideas flowing here, that I decided that i wont check what Dave and Fred commented on outside of G+ ... granted it will be something insightful ... but hey, time is money... looking fwd for RSSxx to be on the left or right side of my streams window in the near future ... or something like that.
 
Should it be such a struggle to figure out where one ought to be publishing? I publish all over the place, depending on which audience I want to reach. Like you, I get more engagement on G+, but I am not sure I always want to be engaged. Sometimes I just want to put something on paper for the record, or to think aloud, or to express an opinion.
 
As much as I love G+ I warn against people adopting walled gardens wholesale. The nice thing about RSS is that it's platform independent, network independent and even media independent. The smart thing for G+ to do is allow RSS feeds on circles and/or tags. For those people who think RSS is old hat their not understanding the scope of the problem.
 
It just occurred to me how funny it is that I jumped into a discussion about RSS, blogging and twitter, none of which I have ever used, nor have any interest in.
I believe that is a testament to the nature of how Google+ encourages engagement and dialogue.
 
I still use rss on a regular basis because it allows me to see an item once. I hate Facebook and google trying to dictate which info should be important to me. I wish I could mark my Facebook wall as read and see new stuff next time I log in. I would also like a star button in g+, this would help me revisit items I like. 
 
"... the first few years of my blog, from 2000 to about 2003 aren’t available anywhere anymore and that hasn’t really caused me too much pain."

Thats because you're an orator, not an essayist. When people search for a topic you are involved in you don't want them to find your authoritative writing on that topic. You want them to find you. That the pieces you wrote in that time frame are no longer available is irrelevant: the portion of your reputation those pieces helped build is still around, and that is what matters.
 
+Marc Canter Interesting comment. And kinda true. But, I think sharing digital content on social media has worked out and is explosively successful to generate traffic. RSS exists (I have it on my blog), but wonder the percentage of people who use it these days.
 
I read this post as RSS first :) I feel a certain comfort in having "my most important" feeds as RSS. The value of a quick search through thousands of posts/feeds is so much quicker when in need for the right info at the right time. The cloud becomes more beautiful by the minute, but to do a search across social platforms, services and what not is still a pain in the but. You keep them RSS-feeds coming +Robert Scoble :)
 
Great post. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting.
 
I thought RSS was supposed to be dead back when Friendfeed first showed up.
 
+Robert Scoble has singlehandedly kept it alive, with his immense output and comcommitant following. ;-)
 
+Lisa Borel KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!! :-D
 
+Lisa Borel So you're not a "feeder", not very "blahg" and not a "twit". Doesn't sound too bad to me. Sounds like you have a life (not like alot of us :-) )
 
I agree with +Ted Jones - there should be a feature in G+, FB and Twitter that allows you to see each item once, and then mark it as read, just like in an RSS reader. How many people do this by trying to remember where they last left off in their stream on these services? This would also work well for allowing you to see new comments on previously read items, and mark them as read too.
 
Seems to me that the right way to do this is for blog posts to automatically become google+ posts AND facbook posts. We don't have that yet. What we have is the ability to make a new google+/facebook post that links to the blog article. That isn't a great solution.

But even we can get our blog posts to automatically become google+/facbook posts that is still only part of the solution. Next up we need a way for comments to sync between all platforms (blogs/google+/facebook), thus preventing a fragmented conversation (which can be a big deal for people who don't have a large audience)

But we are a long way from that.
 
If I come on a webpage that's interesting, but there's no rss I'll leave it open in a tab for a few days. Maybe I'll read a little more of it, maybe not, but when I lose interest I won't be back. It's not personal our ideological; the Web is so huge I don't need to bother. I have so many awesome feeds aggregated I just don't need to care. I'll never read it all anyway. Sometimes I don't want to follow the person, I want to follow the datastream.
 
I absolutely love RSS especilly via particular Google Reader. I am so disappointed how few people know about it and use it, since I started using it, it has transformed the way I use the net, all synced with whatever platform I happen to have in front of me. I try to evangelise it, but even to geeks it is strangely a hard sell, let alone non-geeks. I don't use its existing sharing options, so am not getting bent out of shape like some Reader fans, and would welcome G+ integration for sharing, I am just nervous about any changes to the core product, if they break Reader, it would be like going back to the dark ages for me.
 
+David Haddad I am not sure about the 10%. I think almost anyone would benefit greatly from google reader... if they understood what RSS is and what is can do for them. But development for RSS readers (be it google reader or something else) seems to have stopped completely (this recent update is just a simple UI tweak plus a removal of feature so I don't see it as real development). As they currently stand RSS readers are not going to be more than a niche tool, but only because they haven't been made easy enough for my mom to use.
 
They key benefit of RSS to me is the inbox model vs the stream model that google+ twitter and facebook use. If I am away from my computer for a whole day I can see all the RSS updates that I haven't had a chance to read very easily. I cannot do that on google+/facebook/twitter.
 
I'm looking forward to tighter G+/Reader integration. I used to treat Twitter as my way of finding interesting blog posts, but when I took my self imposed 30 day break from Twitter and Facebook, I needed a way of catching up on blog posts so I turned back to RSS through Reader as this was during the pre-search days of G+. Even though my Twitter break is over I'm rarely visiting it. One thing I've noticed is that I'm far more likely to read a blog post through Reader or linked to on G+ than if the same link was posted to Twitter. I used to favourite interesting looking articles but rarely went back to read them if I hadn't done immediately. That said I don't see a point in having an RSS feed for my G+ public stream. Sure it'll allow people to view my posts from outside of here, but the most important thing for ne is engagement.
 
When the G+ GET API came out, I was a bit disappointed that it was yet another schema and JSON only. +DeWitt Clinton said at the time that G Devs were aware that people really wanted RSS/Atom as well as JSON/Activitystreams and it would be coming real soon now. Still no sign though. I do wish Google would just get on with this. Just write the damn code and release it already. And please add support for PSBH at the same time.

I'm finding that I no longer have time to read RSS/Atom though an RSS reader. But I still use it extensively as plumbing. It's really irritating when the major platforms feel they have to re-invent RSS with yet another schema. It creates the snowflake API problem where every site is unique so if you want to aggregate you have to hand code each one individually. If somebody wanted to build a Friendfeed/Pulse aggregation platform it would be considerably more effort than it was 5 years ago because of that.
 
+Julian Bond Agree about adding a feed, will check up on where that stands. Honestly, it hasn't come up often (that I'm aware of) since the first days, so it may simply have slipped lower on the priority list, but I'll ping the team for an update. The engineering complexity was that we'd want to serve feeds out of the same servers as the read/write API itself, but the full API requires dev keys and auth, so we had a feature under development to allow certain calls to have different auth (or in this case, no-auth) models. Certainly not that feeds are a bad idea at all.

Also, what we learned from Buzz (which had feeds as the primary API surface) was that the feeds work best as a serialization mechanism for content intended for feed readers, but when you just take standard Activity Streams output (like we had for Buzz) it doesn't render that great in a typical reader. So we're working on new templates designed explicitly for that use-case, rather than conflating the read/write API with the feed like we did before.

And for what it's worth, the new Google+ API is Activity Feeds and Poco and OAuth2 and other community-developed protocols, all serialized in JSON—so fortunately not yet another snowflake. We saw the JSON trend coming for a while, so +Will Norris and others here spent a considerable amount of time prepping the AS community for a JSON-based version.

Hope this helps!
 
I wish that Google+ provided a way to publish externally to a blog or any other service, that way I could use it as a Dashboard. Suck everything in to read and then allow me to select where I want to publish comments... keep in Google+ (select circles), send to Twitter, Facebook, or a blog.
 
Everything will feed into the major social networks (now and for a long time to come), but real-time streams will also evolve beyond the social context, organized by "what" is being said, not just by "who" said it. Unlike RSS, those streams will be dynamic, interactive (i.e. "alive) and will be sourced from aggregate contributors. My new startup (I won't plug it by name here) is a platform designed to make stream processing and data sharing easy for developers and brands, while taking content curation to a new place for consumers. Search and other natural language processing approaches can't get us there when the "what" is equally important to the "who". Vanilla RSS is kinda-sorta useful at times, but what if Yahoo Pipes was developed in 2011 and went beyond RSS to include any data type?
 
Personally I'd prefer to have a Blog -> Google+ publishing solution. After several hours of searching I still haven't found one. If anyone has ideas on how to publish a blog post (self hosted WP) TO Google+, please let me know.
 
+DeWitt Clinton I missed your reply above for some reason. Note that http://plusfeed2.appspot.com/ was created because http://plusfeed.appspot.com/ generated too much traffic and the author didn't want to cover the costs of running it. Do a G search for "google plus rss feed" and you'll find lots of articles about creating and using RSS feeds out of G+ using these tools. So I think there's no doubt that there's a demand for RSS/Atom of public posts from a single person with no authentication. There may be demand for RSS/Atom of private posts with Auth.
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