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I finally blocked my Facebook comments, here's why and what it might mean to Google+

I just announced at https://www.facebook.com/RobertScoble/posts/10150617675054655 that I'm only letting friends and friends of friends comment on my Facebook posts. This greatly pains me, because I believe in being open but I was getting dozens of idiotic comments. Most of which were spam, or single word nonsensical answers.

So far that problem hasn't shown up here on Google+. But I'm worried that it will, someday, as more and more people show up here and realize that Google+ is important for traffic and SEO.

One thing, though. Google+ makes it a lot easier and nicer to report and delete spammers and low-quality commenters than Facebook does.

One thing that I'm hoping for is a "comment nuke." +Vic Gundotra said that's coming. What would this do? If you post spam on 20 of my posts (that frequently was happening over on Facebook and once in a while here) all I would need to do is push a button and all your comments would be deleted from my posts. That would be dramatically better than Facebook. Yes, that gives us a lot of power, but, really, we need that power to keep this place free of spam and bad actors.

Otherwise I'll just do here what I did this morning on Facebook: make it so only people I trust can comment and that would be a loss for everyone.
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agreed...leading from the front, again. Thanks Robert.
 
Darn. Guess it's time to move out of facebook if I wanna have any interaction in your comment feed. :(
 
Sounds good to me. Deactivating your Facebook account also sounds good ;) lol

I did that about a year ago and have noticed almost 0% change in traffic to blog posts and videos.
 
Love the Nuke idea. Had no idea that was coming, but very happy to hear it.
 
I'm already seeing that sorta behaviour happening here on some major public pages and profiles, so lets hope the nuke button comes soon! But meanwhile, what happens when people report 'abuse' on comments, or many report profiles for spamming?
 
I just hope it doesn't get like that here on G+ which up to now has been a wonderful experience and refreshing to meet some great people. I have noticed a few spam coming through of late, but in fareness to Google they have already been detected and greyed out. I just hope this can continue but a 'nuke' button would make the whole experience of moderation a user experience rather than having to rely on Google to fix it for us.
 
+Robert Scoble Deleted the Facebook account months ago. Don't even miss it and I would have never have found on Facebook all the great people on G+
 
You should have the power to ban people from posting on your material, the ban should also automatically delete any spam posts... one bad apple can basically ruin what you want to do online...
 
+Loic Le Meur also turned them off some time ago. Never asked him if that helped him reduce the spam, but in theory it works.
 
+Robert Scoble Do you really not get that problem here? I've had a ton of spam problems here. At one point I made it so only people in my circles or extended circles could comment..which did alleviate the spam, but also far reduced comments in general...since I can only have up to 5K in my circles, where as many many more times that can follow me.

I eventually turned open comments back on here, but the spam is slowly returning.

I am glad they added the one-click delete comment and block/report someone button. That makes a big difference.
 
I deactivated my fb account as there was less quality and too much noise.
 
I've had to bar two old family "friends" who are really extreme in their views from commenting on my Facebook. I felt bad about it but it was necessary.
 
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+Robert Scoble Probably. I think my Facebook followers were never to engaging to begin with lol
 
That sounds like a great feature. I haven't had a problem yet with recurring spammers... but when it happens it's good to know that Google will be helping us control it!
 
I can't believe you haven't been bombarded with nonsensical one word comments, or the niceeeeee!!!!! ones. There has been an obvious and horribly annoying trend lately, particularly from users from a certain sub-continent, to spam many of the large-circled folks, and anything in the 'What's Hot" section.
 
I am surprised you didn't go that route awhile ago. Hopefully it will not get that bad on G+ although the nuke option sounds great.
 
Good one!
I heard of this nukem button.. don't know when it will arrive on g+ though
 
This 'comment nuke' would certainly go a long way toward that goal. Google has to know that fine grained control will be intrinsic to the whole signal to noise issue, surely?
 
+Robert Scoble

If you deliver in both places, that generates no pressure to adopt G+

It might be a mechanism for you to transition your userbase and simplify your own life.
 
I think it's a good thing to have (even better) control over our own threads. So far it hasn't been really necessary but I'm noticing population-changes too. So let's bring on the nuke-thingy!
 
I have never seen spam on Google+ (yet...)
 
It's getting increasingly clear to me that Facebook is simply a social platform. It's not a business platform or a serious discussion platform about business. Serious discussion about politics -- probably yes. About business? No. G+ is positioning itself much more towards business interactions. However, it will all depend on people's usage of each of these platforms. Ultimately, I think it does make sense to have a platform that is just for hanging out with your friends and being silly and laid back. I don't necessarily have a lot of use for that, but it has its place.
 
We face the same issue with Wordpress blog comments. Random people who contribute nothing to the discussion post stupid things. It would be nice to have an approval feature, were you have to approve the comments before they appear. You can bulk approve them or only approve/disapprove a select few. Provide it as an option that can be enabled or disabled at your whim.
 
I did the same thing on facebook shortly after Loic LeMur did. The noise and low quality comments were not cool, so I reduced commenting to friends/FOF only. Also turned on "review" for photo tags as some people were tagging me in their photos to put their spam on my wall... soo annoying. I really llike the "comment nuke" idea. I need it over on the Dell page... i just had to delete like 30 comments from 1 dude! I now have to disable comments on the Dell page (14 days aging)...sad.
 
I've seen plenty of low quality comments here, not on my posts but on some high profile people. Lots of one word comments like, hi, great, nice etc or ones begging to be circled back. If I had this level of comment I think is go crazy.
 
+Robert Scoble Facebook has become the 'Family' social network where all your idiot relatives can monitor the ongoings of your life, and also a place where loosely made acquaintances can stalk your profile. It provides little to no value as a professional resource - but you are confirming that, public comments are a joke and you are basically using it for OAuth. (try posting a picture of you drinking or fingering someone and you'll get more engagement than you've ever seen in your life). Go checkout http://blog.facebook.com/ and just go through the comments to 'official' posts - its barely coherent.
 
+Robert Scoble , why do many tech pundits complain about G+ spam but fail to mention porn spam on twitter? It's much worse there. 25% of people who follow public profiles are bots. I just wish G+ could form a facebook like community alongside us technoholics.
 
Its so easy to block people on G+ though. I already have quite a list.
 
I can see why you did this but many with your numbers don't. Leo and Rose don't do this with their Facebooks. Also people like my wife only use Facebook...not twitter/G+ and she views following someone to have a one-way conversation rather fruitless.
 
"That problem" has shown up on Google+, +Robert Scoble. Comment spam has been an issue for me and for many other people, including +Dan Gillmor +Jillian C. York and people on the SUL. That said, I've having exactly the same experience as you on Facebook, and it's getting worse and I get more subscribers. Deleting spam and blocking commenters making it is getting old

I'm not sure that it's a "lot easier" to delete and block here. It's 3 clicks on Facebook: click "x," click "block" link, click yes in the dialog. On Goole, it's click once to flag, then again to delete/block. If 1 click less = a lot, then sure.
 
+Robert Scoble I maybe wrong but the perception I gave is that people like yourself have the ear of the powers that be here more so than Facebook.
 
Curiously Robert, based on the poor comments, did you ever click on some of the users profiles? Were they regularly doing it to lots of other power users, and also were the users native English speakers or appear like they were automated accounts? I think I have only ever commented on your FB comments once or twice, but it actually always annoyed me being unable to read sensible discussions on your comments feed. It just didn't exist.
 
Good post, great follow-up. I fully agree.. not that my opinion matters, .. just sayin' ! :) Not being a "Web-celeb" or public figure such as +Robert Scoble, and many others with trillions of followers, I can only imagine the social management required to weed out the loon's. I too think FB and G+ are both important and to me serve separate functions.
 
I think it's a good idea, comment spam is completely out of control anymore. I subscribe to you on Facebook but rarely comment so I'm not upset about it :)
 
+Robert Scoble Well if they care about the comments then we'll see if they move to the same model. Who knows. As for my wife. She's not in the tech industry but I value her opinion as she's very wise and well educated. She was an integral part of Cathedral High School being the first high school in California to buy Ipads for every student at the school. She's embracing technology and putting it in the hands of where it's most useful...the kids that are our future.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/feb/15/tp-school-leaping-into-digital-age-issuing-an/
 
+Robert Scoble I figured you would. When I said people like you, I meant high profile power users rather than you specifically :)
 
My Facebook profile has always been "locked down" to friends only, but lately even my "friends" are spamming my posts. At least here I get to choose who sees my posts and I can delete any spam posts at any time. I would love to have a "nuke all" feature though. That would be nice.
 
Makes sense. Facebook was originally only for friends so doesn't (yet) have the tools to deal with these bigger accounts properly. Google+ has been designed with public/mass sharing from the off.
 
I've spent the last week unfriending a lot of people. :-)
 
I hope it gets that way here too because at least that will mean that G+ has achieved a critical mass of active users (and I might actually have some active friends on here)
 
Its not quantity but quality that works best.
 
I've started to gradually migrate to G+. Some good friends are still FB only so I still visit there but all-in-all I prefer G+. My reasons are, of course, nothing like yours. I like the interface better and it integrates with what I use at Google already, I'm also moving my things from Windows Live even though I like Skydrive better than what Google serves up for storage. I'm turning G+ into my main account, Live into my secondary.
Windows Live pros: storage usability
Google plus pros: integration with services
 
G+ has a bit smoother feel to it than FaceBook
 
Would be good +Vic Gundotra if the comment nuke was able to be set at whatever number one wished before nuking happened. :-)
 
+Robert Scoble I rarely would post anything on your posts over at Facebook anyway. I primarily use my subscriptions over there as a high-end RSS reader. I feel much more compelled to interact and engage with you and your fellow followers over here on Google+.

Also, over here on Google, since a lot of us who have you circled are folks who were in on the G+ phenomenon at the beginning, I feel like we have more impetus to help keep the comments clean. I know that I, on a regular basis, will flag posts as inappropriate when I see that they are spammy or blatant one-word comments designed to do nothing more than lure people into clicking their name.
 
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Congratulations, and even more congratulations when you disactivate Facebook, the Devil :-)
 
I deleted all but family from my FB and restrict access to just family. Everyone else is directed to G+
 
+Arash Hooshmand I understand the knee-jerk reaction to deactivate Facebook, and for folks like you or me it may not be that big of a deal, but unfortunately, as +Robert Scoble would discover, and as +Leo Laporte did discover, it's hard to be in this business and not be part of the major players.

(sorry if I insulted you by assuming you're not one of the major players... I don't recognize your name, so I just assumed you're another Joe Schmoe like me.)
 
I'm also loving the instant upload photo feature with the G+ mobile app. Not that I want everyone to see all my photos, but I've had a phone that had a lot of photos on it that I dropped in a pool once. Now at least all my photos are stored online in case that happens again.
 
Facebook Dev should read Scobleizer's G+ (irony)
 
Well, I'm not sure if my comments add anything useful to your posts in your eyes... but I'd sure miss the ability to respond to something I really care about (as I did now).
I hope +Google+ is listening to your recommendations, as a "high profile" poster I'm sure you see more idiocy/spam than most of us put together!
 
I see very well the arguments for giving some sort of user level moderation/spam control tool. But there is a chance that this path will lead in the long run to a reduced quality of conversations, in case people start using such a functionality more as a means to kick out people with opposing views, which is not totally improbable. I say there is some balancing game to play here in terms of designing such a feature if one wants keep the engagement on g+ both civil and interesting.

Maybe a 'crowd sourced comment nuking' is a partial solution, that way, 1) owners of popular posts won't need to micromanage 2) only real spam would be cleaned and not people with valid arguments at the opposite end ...
 
I guess that it may have something to do with the APIs. G+ api is just read only, where I would imagine that facebook is more open to also comment like you can on your phone.
Is it possible to see where the bad comment come from.
 
Well +Lee Brewer it is a nice feature unless you forgot you enabled it. I will now be much more careful about what pictures I take. Well until I forget again.

Anyway I prefer to read and don't often interact on any social media. Which is why I prefer G+ because most people I follow like +Robert Scoble have a very high S/N. Where I find FB to have a very low S/N just because of its interface.
 
Robert, I'm one of your Facebook subscribers. I would never send you a friend request as I have no personal connection with you. Since that puts me in a different category from your real friends, I think what you've done is entirely acceptable. I'm only sorry you've been plagued like this.
 
I totally moved out of facebook for G+.
Facebook deactivated.
Whoever came here with me, I will stay in touch with, whoever decided not to can go to hell anyways.
 
I left FB and Twitter a couple weeks ago. I have so much more time to do other things!
 
I hope you don't have that problem here. It is really cool how you are open to talk/listen/respond to anyone.
 
The more people in Google plus, the bigger the chances of that happening here. But growth is good. At least we can just block people easily here.
 
I've found that it's nice to have people you don't know commenting on your posts which you make public. Makes it easy to connect to neighbors, or people who have things in common with you. Of course, there are trolls out there. I've experienced some myself. But yes, it's so easy to block people, and if you don't want to be hassled with it in the first place, picking and choosing who you share with each time is also easy!
 
+Ermias Atomssa Those who habitually lock out others with opposing views eventually find themselves in a very bland, lonely room.
 
One of the things you suffer from is this tech bubble echo chamber. Limiting your feedback on Facebook (lets face it - thats where people are) makes that bubble even smaller. As a result of this I am unsubscribing from you on FB and while I'm sure you dont care, I'm also sure I'm not alone. Good new is I will still see all your G+ spam on Twitter.
 
That's actually exactly what he was talking about. If you immediately pass off anyone who presents a conflicting view and block them then what is the point of posting? If you can't have a discussion about something and defend your side then why are you even commenting on it? Onto your spam. None of your content I would consider spam. However, not all of your posts are your own content. A fair amount of them are shares with only two lines of your comments on it. That would be fine on its own but the number of times you do it causes it to approach being spam.
 
I was speaking more of implied spam as opposed to literal spam. I followed you because you have interesting ideas and are able to speak to interesting people. I like posts where you have your original content. When I see you just share other posts without a whole lot of contribution to the topic then I tend to just pass it over. While I suppose spam wouldn't be a perfect word to describe what those posts are, it does summarize my feelings on them.
 
I have found the idea of G+ to be where you either post your own articles (which is why it is so easy to view long posts) or link back to your own stuff. If you just want to push forward or curate news I think Twitter would be a much more effective method, but to each their own.
 
and in response I respectfully point you back to my first comment.
 
+Justin Gillatt In case you didn't realize, G+ does what Facebook and Twitter have been doing for ages, and does it all in a better fashion in just one box. So, if +Robert Scoble wants to post his own content/link his own articles here, he's free to do it. It's quality content, not ads and "tagged" photos (I'm looking at you, Facebook).
 
I have never let anyone other than friends comment and even then, sometimes, that goes wrong. But then I realize a lot of people on Google+ who I don't know comment, but think that has to do with the different people who use it and what they are commenting on.
 
well your comments would apply if Robert Scoble wasn't a man who just used G+ as a outlet for his content which let me say is something far from steller as of late
 
+Robert Scoble I called it spam because all you post to Twitter and Facebook is links to here. Why post anything on the other sites if its just links? Add to the conversation there.
 
+Robert Scoble I agree. The difference is you aren't Mashable. Is that what you are going for? Maybe I have my expectations wrong.
 
Comments in general can be a blessing and a curse. I scuttled my Facebook account a month ago and don't miss it at all.

Dave Winer just turned off comments on his weblog. Nice move.

http://scripting.com/stories/2012/02/19/noComment.html

I still think you need to write less here and more on your weblog. ;-)
 
Wow, that would be wonderful. That is showing tremendous faith in it's users and certainly would be a maturation for social networks. Looking forward to seeing what else G+ has in store in terms of noise filters. If Google doesn't start to make this push, no one will.....
 
Sad to see that but it is reality with spam. Hope you keep this channel on for us to have access and share our thoughts with you. 
 
One of the biggest problems with Facebook is at it's core it still acts as its still a place where you connect to family and close friends instead of 100s of followers. So their methods to deal with spammers are poor to say the least
 
I have started to see it more and more for non-tech celebrities...I scares me. I really wish people would use their own judgment when deciding what to post or to post at all, but it seems like that's too hard for some of them...
 
This only mean one thing for me...

I cannot comment on your facebook anymore.

But that's okay. I still think of facebook as my "met friends network".

Google+ has always been the "interesting people that I haven't met most of them yet".

Although I hope that spam can be manageable for both.
 
Facebook kinda sucks,just a little bit.
 
I don't think Google+ will have that for a long long time. I love +Google+ but to me it is much less social and much more informative. To someone like +Robert Scoble or +Mike Elgan who are the kings of the nerds...of which I am proudly one...they will always get responses. To me, no matter what I post it gets very little response and I bet that most people have the same experience. There should be internal controls for people who have a lot of followers, and companies, like the "nuke" and other noise controls. This is going to be a problem on any social network for any people with a large following.
 
Join the anti-Facebook revolution and delete your account!!
 
I do wonder if G+ would become like Facebook. I hope not, even Google has better data management, I still want G+ to remain on the higher-end side, not just another social site.
 
+Tom Lynch +Justin Gillatt I think sharing is as important as the people who create those content. Without the people who spread the word out way less people would read it. But I agree that it can also get annoying, especially on Twitter and FB. Here on G+ many people share still more carefully. I also like to share, but I've my circles for my native language (german), english speaking, tech and photography related ones and so on to hopefully not annoy people with links to topics they're not interested in or can't read because of the language.
I'm a bit afraid that this might change when G+ gets an API to publish content. While I would like to see such a thing for peope like +Robert Scoble to make publishing their content easier I still think it might be a bad thing for the plattform in general. Once people can publish from apps like Path or Tweetdeck to G+ most will go public and no longer to specific circles as well as people will think less about it if it's really worth a post.

+Robert Scoble I think the Facebook UI can still be very confusing to user who didn't grew up with that plattform. My Internet experience started with mailboxes about 16 years ago so I would call myself more an experiences web user but everytime I log into Facebook and search any kind of special setting I spend at least 5 minutes to search it. Just the privacy settings are already divided in so many sub-groups that it's confusing even to me. At that point Google did a pretty good job with G+ and I would like to see Facebook shameless copying it.
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