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Part 2 of this fantastic roundup showing you all the advantages to complete every day tasks with Android and how complicated they are on an iOS device!
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You know Apple fans are just going to say... "Well, it just works better." LOL!
Ugh. All of his videos are so long. :( lol
This is the vs Froyo video... It just puts into example what I've been saying since last year...
I don't know... This somehow reminds me of this stupid WP7 campain...

Every system has its advantages and drawbacks, and sometimes, it's just up to the available apps. And even there, the systems have their pros and cons - like e.g. Android being open to everything technical possible, but by this (and some badly missing APIs/templates) also allowing UI chaos and a higher risk of malware in the Play Store. Or take the Widgets - they're great for usage, but probalby also one of the causes the Home screen sometimes appears to be laggy.

Basically, it depends on your needs. iOS often takes a lot of actions, but they're consistent and usually easy to find. Android often allows way faster ways, but sometimes they're hidden - e.g. you don't know if there are menu entries if your device has a menu button, or what will happen if you press a list item for a while. WP7 is somewhere in-between, with a tendency to iOS.
+Mirko Schenk all that maybe true, however, it visually debunks many if the claims from the iOS camp...
I will NEVER buy any of the IOS, it simply kick u in the teeth and ask your money, always. That why Android is Open Source, to give freedom
We don't have 4g in the UK yet. Most of the time I can't even get much 3g where I live :( Android is much better before the Samsung Galaxy s came I decided to get a smartphone and i was gonna get the iPhone then I noticed the galaxy s so I waited for it to come out and now I'm android 4 life
#angrybirdspace Free on Android, NOT Free on IOS....plain and simple.
The big problem with Android is the software overlays on the different phones. The vanilla Google experience is the best. Unfortunately the overlay always gives you apps you don't want and doesn't seem to be as refined. I know you can root and do custom OS (including vanilla android), but I don't want to buy something that I need to break the warranty on to be happy with it. I also don't want to pay extra for getting the experience google wanted me to have, or be cut out of it all together by a cell carrier. Also the update schedule is not consistant at all. Some phones get updates and some don't. It seems Google has let the hardware manufactures and the cell phone carriers walk all over them. With that said, I like Android and hope these problems can be resolved soon. There are a lot more possibilities with this technology as it is open to different hardware manufactures. I just wish that Google would protect the OS experience a little more or come up with some kind of review process for these overlays.
I have rooted every phone I have had. Warranty has cover anything I had a problem with.
From what I know, most of these warranty subscriptions require a non-rooted phone to be covered. I've had to flash my Incredible to stock for Verizon before to get it covered. I don't think this is a make-or-break point in my post above. I very rarely use the warranty on phones. I guess I should have posted that I don't think it is worth my time to get rid of these overlays or modify the code to delete apps that auto-run and take battery life. Just a preference of mine.
+Justin Pederson The overlays aren't that big of a problem... You can install your own, I liked GO Launcher, once that is installed the phones, no matter who the manufacturer is, pretty much look/operate the same.

Apps you don't want are easily hidden from view in the App Drawer... You only put the apps you are interested on the home screens so those apps are barely even seen...

Please, please, please define or show examples of "doesn't seem to be as refined"?

Don't want to break warranty? First of all, you need to jailbreak the iPhone to do anywhere near what you can do with an Android phone that has not been rooted.

The update schedule is a wash... Yes some devices don't get updated, however, as clearly shown in this video, Froyo is much more capable than the latest version of iOS... All the new features in iOS 5 so while Android updates would be nice, iOS really is no answer as it has clearly been outpaced by Android...

Google hasn't let anybody "walk all over them" they've given people and companies choice. Giving others a "choice" is always a double edged sword. In any case, as stated above, still far more capable than iOS

There will not be any review process for these overlays... Google releases the code to the AOSP then people and companies download that and do what they want with it... There are problems, but they really aren't as bad as pundits and especially the Apple camp make them out to be... They are more annoyances, than actual problems...
I learned to root my phone in less than 1 hour research in youtube, maybe less, as easy as that, and since that i've tried several roms, found the perfect one and happy with my phone, way, way better than the stock rom (running ICS on Galaxy Vibrant) and if your concern if the warranty, you can always go back to your official stock rom...

and the process take less than 20 mins...

Android rules... I have what I want, the way I want it, when I want it and how I want it!
+James Pakele I can see where you are going with this. This is my frustration with what I have seen.

What I am talking about when I say not as refined is the overlays aren't good. It seems, to me, these are slapped together and put into production. I have seed more force closes from apps from bad overlays. Also the glitches like just answering a phone call. My wife has the Fascinate and the puzzle-piece-answering system. You have to put the piece exactly where it needs to go in order to answer the phone. Not the best wile trying to drive, even while using a hands free systems. This example is directly a failure of the Samsung overlay. This, in turn, turns users off to the experience. This is why you see tons of posts saying they went to the iPhone because their Android wasn't as good. This is the same failure we saw on WIndows mobile OS. They made an OS (who knows if it was good or not.) and let al the hardware manufactures create overlays. The phones just didn't work. Also Microsoft also let the cell carrier handle updates; same as Android. The same update failure is here. In this way they are letting their vision of their OS slip away. They are letting hardware manufactures and cell carriers change the way it works.

With the update schedule, I would also like to input that Android phones are way more disposable then the Apple competitors. There are still people running the 3gS iPhone and are very happy with it. For the person that wants a longer life of the phone, the updates will support older hardware better than the Android platform. That said, this can be a benefit to the Android user as the user can get better hardware and software on demand. All it takes is to buy the newer better phone. That is why the cell carriers and hardware manufactures want to control the updates. They want you to go out an buy the new hardware. This is all a scam to me.

Also, if Google really wanted the open experience, they would put standards in to help load different versions of OS onto the different hardware. You wouldn't have to put the Mortal-Combat-style cheat code in to get to the OS manager. If they really wanted it to be an open system these phones would have the software separate from the hardware where drivers would be openly available to work with any version of the OS. Where you didn't have to go to different developer's sites to get vanilla Android; just download it straight from Google. This is what an open system would act like.

Again this is just all my preference. I know that all may not agree. I am not trying to push my opinion on anyone. In fact I like back and forth like this. It creates a better understanding of the problems for everyone.
+Daniel Ocando Troconis,
Point being you had to root it to love it. If it came with vanilla Android I bet you wouldn't have even had the urge to put different ROMs on it.

I love Android too. I have a few ideas on development for it. All secrets of course. It has infinite possibilites.
+Justin Pederson

One of the reasons I like the Android platform and have claimed for a long time that updates are not as important as they are made out to be is the fact that you can install apps from the app store that replace core functionality. For example your wife's Fascinate, have her try the GO Launcher which pretty much replaces any overlay by Samsung, Motorola, etc. GO Dialer replaces the phone/contacts screens, GO SMS replaces the text messaging app and adds functionality, much like Bite SMS from Cydia, but with even more options... For the unlock issue try installing either GO Locker or Widget Locker to change the way the phone is unlocked... This is beneficial because you don't have to wait for the company to implement upgrades, updates and features, 3rd party apps integrate just fine.

Android phones may have been more disposable at one point, however with the amount of processing power and RAM in the models since the Atrix was released last February make these phones last a whole lot longer. I bought an Atrix, still very snappy, though I have an Epic Touch now, only because we switched carriers. These phones will provide ample power going forward and result in the phones having a longer lifespan. Also, you can install most of the 3rd party apps I talked about above on any device and just see if it works. Apple has a habit of distributing an "upgrade" and claiming this or that functionality is not available because the hardware doesn't support it, yet it pops up in Cydia and works just fine... (I had the original iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 4, before moving to Android).

Also, I have been witnessing the exact opposite as you apparently... Most people I know are switching from iPhone to Android, not the other way around... I actually only know one person that went from Android to iPhone, but haven't seen her in a while so I don't know how it's working for her, either way...

As for allowing different versions, it is not entirely under Google's control as the manufacturers, along with their overlays, also install their device drivers and such for their own hardware. Often this is what holds up development of ROMs and such in the mod world. Once the manufacturers release their source and drivers the mods for their phone start becoming a lot more stable because the modders have access to the drivers. That said, having some knowledge of what's going on in the background helps as well... For instance, I'll stick with Samsung devices because Samsung has hired Cyanogen who is responsible for Cyanogen Mod, probably one of the more popular ROMS available, and delivers as close to vanilla Android as you can get. One of the things I'll consider going forward when purchasing hardware is how well the mod community has embraced the device... For example the SGSII has been very popular in the mod community, which is, for me anyways, considered before how often the manufacturer updates...

I like the back and forth too... I don't expect everyone to have to see it my way, and am also not under any delusion that Android doesn't have it's flaws. I just think that alot of the "claimed" flaws aren't as bad as they are made out to be...
+Justin Pederson
dont get me wrong, I didn't have to root it to love it, in fact I love it as its, but rooted? that expand the love more hahahahahaha
+James Pakele
Thanks for the tips for my wife's phone. I feel like, in the pursuit of something different or cool these overlays have created a system that needs to be changed to work.

That is very interesting news that Samsung hired Cyanogen. I hope that the vision can come through as Samsung, in my opinion, has been the worst with the overlays in the past. Except the Nexus with vanilla.

The other area that will be a hurdle for Android will be the corporate or even small business environment. Getting new phones as phone upgrades come along would be hell as even something as simple as setting up email varies from manufacture to manufacture. At least it doesn't require additional software to be put on the email server like some phones (cough blackberry).
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