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If you're interested in Google Experience phones, it has never been more important than right now to vote with your wallet.

So many pixels have been spent this week on the Google Edition phones, the Moto X phone, and the future of the Nexus program. As I sit back and reflect on the last two weeks, I can't help but feel like this is Android nerd Christmas. If you had asked any of a dozen people who have focused on this industry in the last year what the likelihood was that we'd have three major phones being released within the next month running something very, very close to vanilla Android, you'd have been laughed at.

I'd know. I was. Twice. 

While Motorola is being guided by their new Google tinted glasses, HTC and Samsung are stepping into something new. Both companies put Nexus phones out in a time where the Nexus program was, lets face it, unsuccessful. The Nexus 4 has seen success that no previous incarnation of the program has seen, and the reality is that the hacker and modder community isn't quite the tiny niche it used to be.

It wasn't all that long ago that the CM team announced 5 million users. That's the same number of HTC One phones that were pumped out within two months of launch. It's half the number of phones Samsung pumped out one months after launch. In the grand scheme of things, the number of rooted and ROM'd Android users are likely less than 15 million. That's 15 million users where a significant portion have a demonstrated history of buying the next big thing as soon as it hits the market, and then encouraging all of their friends and family to do the same. These are influential consumers, and they have been foaming at the mouth for the very thing these companies have finally decided to offer for years. 

This isn't a long term plan for Samsung or HTC. This is testing a potential niche market. Users have been begging for this exact thing since Android 1.6, and the signal to noise ratio is finally high enough to listen to. I'd wager if this is unsuccessful for either company, we won't see it again. There are people working for these companies that sit on both sides of this conversation. Those that believe there are enough users to make a profit, and those who think the Android modder and hacker scene is a group of kids living in their parent's basement that aren't going to buy into this. 

It couldn't be more simple. If this is something you want to see happen more than once, you need to vote with your wallet. Cheering on the company on the Internet, commenting on blogs about how awesome this is, or slamming other companies who aren't following suit won't cut it. As the user, you have to make it clear what it is you want from these companies. If you want more Google Experience phones, you need to give them a reason to make more of them. 
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I think this is a great idea. Having said that, I think this experiment will be a failure, and a pretty big one at that. It isn't average consumers who are interested in these phones, it is the techies, and it is the average consumer who drives this industry, not techies. There just is not enough of them for this to be successful, at least for Samsung or HTC. 
 
Funny it really comes down to it's all about the money.... If there is money to be made they will test the market...  But just shows how much pull the nerds/geeks/techie's have.  ;-)
 
it would be interesting if a carrier sold these on contract as an option and subsidized because that is really how these will take off. I don't think the general public checks the Play store for new phones. now if they see it in the AT&T store side by side with the regular bloated/skinned version which would they choose? maybe the carrier charges $50 premium over the bloated version they get kickbacks on. 
I always wished at the mall outside thecarrier store there could be a CM kiosk so you could just root and flash your phone as soon as you bought it.
 
i'm fine with your writing from the perspective of the consumer, but what does it mean for the oems? should they really give up customizing android? should they not differentiate on the software side? can competition on hardware only really be successful?
 
+Ramin Assadollahi they could offer all that skinning as apps instead of built into the s/w and let folks decide. I bet some folks would install a combo of samsung and htc on their phone taking the best of both skins if possible.
 
+michael interbartolo this would mean that they could earn enough money based on the apps / skins they build. #1 paid app in the android store is swiftkey and that has about 5mio downloads at 4$. hardly something a samsung could live by.
 
Looking at this as an black or white, on or off kind of thing misses the point entirely. People buy the phones with the modified version of Android... by the truckoad. There' a segment of the market that swears they would buy phones that aren't sold this way, and the manufacturers are trying that theory out. If it turns out they can make money this way, they will make more of them. More Google Experience phones means carriers will pick them up, and at some point way in the future these companies would make a choice between releasing their own version of Android versus a Google Experience phone. Until that happens, until the GE phones are successful, it isn't productive to look at any of that stuff. 
 
Good thoughts +Russell Holly and two weeks ago I did just that. As much as I wanted the Galaxy S4 I decided to purchase the Nexus 4 based purely in the stock Android experience. Over the past couple of months, two of my non-techie friends also purchased a Nexus 4 after I explained the benefits of a carrier free experience. 
 
+michael interbartolo has hit the heart of this matter. The big OEM's with all of their might, are building proprietary "features" (read Apps), and thus pulling market share & innovative steam from the Play Store. Now while I do fully understand why they do it, I don't have to like it.

I would also like to point out, that this "experiment" is starting out with one CDMA hand tied behind its back. I hope this too can change in the near future. I want pure vanilla, it's my phone after all. Not to be treated as some corporate bloated banner ad.
 
Do you think future Nexus devices will be more expensive because of the GE phones available?

I feel like it makes the consumer ask, "Why would I pay $600 for this phone when I can get pretty much the same thing in the same place for over $200 less?" 
 
I should mention I purchased my Nexus 4 from T-Mobile rather than the Play store as a way of sending a small message to my carrier. 
 
I think the group of people wanting the google edition is too small.. I also think the Touchwiz version of the GS4 is too commercialized for a vanilla version to compete with.. Face it, to the average consumer and even some techies, aosp is boring. The HTC one is a less commercialized device, those that did the research before buying know why they wanted that device. IMO HTC will probably do better with this program than Samsung. I think Samsung did it just to make a statement, and that is that "we were doing it right to begin with".. 
 
+Russell Holly In my area T-Mobile and AT&T's infrastructure is pitiful (2G at best). So as much as I want to use my money to vote for phones with excellent experiences I have to vote for excellent service first and (unfortunately) Verizon Wireless is hands down the winner.  I want some +T-Mobile love between Richmond and Williamsburg VA.

I do think there maybe hope in Motorola's upcoming lineup for VZW customers given that 80% of VZW's CDMA equipment was made by Moto so maybe they can be the side of Google willing to deal with the legacy muck that CDMA presents. But those are my own inner thoughts and probably has nothing to do with updates but I can always dream. 
 
I agree. That's why I'm getting the Sammy. 
 
+Russell Holly nobody is getting the point of it besides saying that we now have choice of vanilla phones in the shape of one and s4 and f somebody would buy it or not at this higher price.

Real reasons are big and ignored according to me.

1. First reason is having to help big OEMS with faster update cycles.

Google has realized that OEMS have reached a point where they are at least a step ahead both in processor innovation and hardware sensor innovations which is why the path to updates is longer. And supporting one type of architecture in aosp would not move the needle for rapid update cycles. So now they are supporting different processors and different sensors.

2. This is in preparation of getting MotoX into play store at much lower price (what I have read is it would be 199$ unlocked) paving the way for OEMS to continue run profit game and have Google run the "reach" game of getting next 5 billion connected users.


Thoughts?
 
+Russell Holly Well it needs wider availability (?UK/EU). But the elephant in the room is the N4 (Price v spec ratio)
 
HTC ONE WILL BE HAVING A NEXUS VERSION IF IM NOT WRONG.
 
+Rajesh Handa i totally agree with you. so when taking these two together it means, that google will not only "own" the ui, but also the hardware market because they sell the devices at cost (xiaomi & amazon model). this is bad news for oems and could actually really lead to alternative platforms like tizen.
 
+David Miller is right.  For a lot of us, T-mobile and ATT have lousy coverage.  Verizon has the network, yet all these phones are GSM.  That said, I'm close to pulling the trigger on the S4 through the play store, and just dealing with the sub-par coverage.
 
Believe me, they are worth it.
 
+Kristian Bell From a unit-sales point of view, you're correct. Neither of these will be a blip on the radar for their consumer, carrier-pushed counterparts. 

Each iteration will see more people join, though, or push the carriers and manufacturers closer to the goals of the Nexus program. One big story about someone losing money or valuable data on a non-Nexus device when the Nexus variant was made safe weeks or months earlier will turn even more people. 

Just giving users a choice is the biggest win, though. And that HTC is thinking about allowing anyone to load up the Nexus software is even bigger. If that were the case on all devices, then everyone wins. People can have a choice. Their phones can be like their computers; load up whatever software or OS they want and, eventually, use whatever ISP they want. 
 
+Shane Conder I understand the choice for consumers is the greatest win for everyone.
What happens when/if Samsung releases the S4/5 GE at the carriers with a subsidy sitting next to one with touchwiz?
All the "gimmicks" which are actually pretty cool features would totally cloud the lack of features on AOSP.. I wouldn't give up Multiview, air gestures, and smart stay for what?
The chance I'll get another update? The average consumer would ask why both phones are priced the same when one has so many more features..
 
+David Miller +Matt Roche Verizon screwed up, they messed with the Galaxy Nexus and they continue to mess with Google Wallet... How does Google deliver a Google Experience when Verizon continues to mess with Google's products? 
 
+Ramin Assadollahi YES. In an ideal world, services are what companies would be known for not hardware ( where components price is in inverse relation to quantity)

So Google is shooting for bigger market share than profit game.
 
+James Pakele agreed, but for me its still about the overall coverage plus I am still have an unlimited data plan. Another reason I have hope for moto products is that +Motorola Mobility did release a dev version of the RAZR M and RAZR HD. <fingers-crossed>
 
+David Miller yeah Moto has an almost exclusive relationship with Verizon... I'm waiting to see how the Google aspect affects things...

Weird how the largest Android supporting carrier seems to be the least supported now, with even the commercial version of the HTC One still not announced for a Verizon release too... 
 
+James Pakele the only reason why VZW drags manufacturers through broken glass: CDMA. Only Sprint and Verizon implement it and I believe only Motorola really knows how to use it. All other carriers came from countries where GSM is used also GSM is a more open standard by default. Using CDMA is a black art and its why Big Red and Sprint are bleeding customers.

To all correct me if I am wrong but I do believe the U.S. government contracts VZW because of CDMA encryption abilities which is another why Verzion wants to know who is join their network.
 
US only, will definitely not do as well as it could. Google needs to step up and offer their handsets/tablets to more countries, especially to Europe. it's not hard.
 
+Kristian Bell That's exactly the problem. In other threads, we've been discussing if the manufacturers will be motivated enough to put their special add-ons up on the Play store for use on the Nexus Experience versions. If they do this, not only does that give the Nexus buyer the ability to, say, get air gestures or their camera app, but since it would come in through the Play store it, too, could be updated without carrier intervention or delay.

Put simply, a Nexus Experience device where all the manufacturer add-ons can be available via the Play store gives the best of both worlds and is, potentially, superior to either.

If the carriers don't do this, it is confusing the the average consumer. (For now, average consumers aren't buying via the Play store.) And, for me, I think twice about it. I don't want the crapware, but I do like some of what HTC and Samsung are doing.  My "thinking twice" is also partly why I want to see what the Moto X will be first. (Not counting any devices I need for testing on, of course.)
 
It just sucks that they charge so much for these devices. We all know that these devices come with no carrier bloat. It would definitely change things.

+Russell Holly this is the best article I've ever read from you.
 
+steven smith it wasn't an article, and the prices are exactly where they should be, but thanks. 
 
The problem for me all comes down to price. I've run the gamut of Android devices - G1, Droid, Droid X, Atrix, Galaxy Nexus (Verizon), and I'm finally very, very happy with the Nexus 4. I don't see myself going back to buying a phone on contract. But I do NOT see myself shelling out over $500 for an unlocked phone! $349 for the Nexus 4 I could deal with, assuming I'll be able to sell it in a year for $200 or so. The only complaint I have with the Nexus 4 is the semi-crappy rear speaker, and I would LOVE to have the front-firing speakers on the HTC One with the stock experience. I don't root any more, and don't have a need to use ROM of the week - I like where Android is, and I want to stay with stock from now on in all likelihood. I try to use my device for home and work, so I have to keep it functional and STABLE.

So if HTC and Samsung think the only way this experiment will work is if they can sell the phones directly from Google Play for $600 to $800, they're just asking too much. MOST people aren't going to go for that. Even the rest of my "normal" friends and family think I'm crazy for spending $350 on a cell phone when they can get one much cheaper under a 2-year contract. To them being "locked in" doesn't seem to matter. For those of us who do care, the manufacturers are going to have to realize they can't charge premium prices for this model to work. 
 
+Russell Holly I pay full retail for these devices. I look at the hardware of the Nexus 4, it's a high end phone, why can't they be closer to it?

It came off in article quality. Really awesome, should be on geek.
 
I wish everyone would stop using the Nexus 4 price tag as a comparison, as though we're dealing with the same thing. It's not the same thing. At all. 
 
+Russell Holly - Why? :) Please explain?  I know the Nexus 4 was subsidized to get that low, but for a lot of people I talk to about it, that seems to be the "right" price range.

I completely agree with you that this is the right moment for people to vote with their wallet, but I'm concerned people will also be voting with their dollars by saying, "This isn't the right price," and the manufacturers will think it's a failure, taking away the idea that not enough people want this experience. I don't think it's either/or....I think people want the experience, but the price has to be right.
 
Thanks Russell, I'll definitely give it a read.
 
+Russell Holly I think there is a group of people who are upset this is happening two months after release on the subsidized market.
 
+Shane Conder lots of those apps that are bloatware or manufacturer specific need the proprietary bits from their frameworks to function.. It would take more than just putting then on the market..
Granted they could rebuild all of those shops to work on aosp but what would stop people from putting them on devices that aren't supported and ranking 1*?
 
+Kristian Bell Some might require stuff that manufacturers put in the OS at too low of a level. Most shouldn't if the provide appropriate drivers with the Nexus Experience. Some of the ROMs floating around enable such things on older devices. (Remember the early days of only one camera support but some devices had a front one as well? It's like that.)

Demand of such things could also show Google where to put effort into for new optional hardware. 

As for access on the Play store, apps can be made available on a per device basis, so that's a trivial issue. Obviously, they wouldn't be perfectly locked down, but well enough. 
 
+David Miller Verizon is bleeding customers? First time I ever heard that. Sprint may be losing subscribers but not Verizon.
 
Let's stop kidding ourselves for one second: nether +Samsung Mobile nor +HTC want their Google Experience (or even their Nexus) devices to outsell their devices running their custom +Android ROM because that would mean that they are replaceable and that consumers can switch from their devices to the ones from the competition without losing anything.
+Google needs to start making its own +Nexus devices because hardware manufacturers are not going to commoditize hardware by selling it at cost and let service companies such as +Google make all the money from the usage of their products.
 
+Pernell Moore I misstepped on that. They actually gained a few million last quarter:-) thanks for keeping me in check. 
 
I would love to vote with my wallet.

Except I can't, cause Google ( and the OEMs ) don't sell these 'Google Experience' products here.
 
If I didn't have to wait so long for the phones to hit sprint (and be outdated by the time they got there) I would.
 
The home button isn't centered and it lacks soft keys. I just can't do it.
 
If you're interested in my wallet (or the contents thereof), it has never been more important than right now to SELL YOUR PRODUCTS IN MY COUNTRY.
 
I'd be more than willing to throw cash at those products, but apparently Canadian money isn't good enough for the companies involved.
 
Yeah, until Google starts taking Google Play and themselves seriously as a hardware vendor any 'experiment' like this will be a failure.

In the US, it is rare to purchase phones unlocked. They tried it with the Nexus One, and failed. This will fail as well. At the very least, trying this out in the European market might have seen better results. But no, Google are keeping this US-only.

This is just too expensive and too 'non-Verizon' for Americans. It'll be a failure, we won't see any 'Google Experience' phones that aren't Motorola's again.

Good post +Russell Holly 
 
Now if only they released these phones on Verizon then I could get one, which I'd gladly pay for.
 
Good luck with that. "US only wallets"
 
+Danny Holyoake Google would probably disagree that the Nexus One failed. And the Nexus 4 certainly didn't fail. Each time they learn a ton. To them (data hungry analysts) the data they get doesn't need to sell 10million phones.

Do you really think if the One, S, and 4 had all failed they'd be continuing the Nexus program? Or expanding it to multiple devices at once?
 
Definitely showing some love by grabbing the HTC One. 
 
+Shane Conder The reason the Nexus 4 was so understocked was because the Nexus line had seen pittance sales before then and Google expected similar numbers but was caught off-guard.

I think it's unfair to compare a $300 unlocked Nexus 4 with a $600 unlocked S4/One, so I wouldn't expect the popularity that the Nexus 4 achieved.
 
 I do not live in my parents' basement but I am finding the price tag on these phones a bit high. That said, I'm still putting money aside for one.
 
+Danny Holyoake you're making my point for me. Volume and success are not the same thing. Nor is revenue or profit when there is obvious other value. (Not that $300-400 million is something to sneeze at over the first 3 months it was out.)


 
+Devin McKinnon They're exactly the same price as their carrier crap ware counter parts. The Verizon Galaxy S4 is $649. Nexus Experience? $649. HTC One Developer Edition 64GB is $649 with HTC stuff. Nexus Experience 32GB is $599.

Unsubsidized phones are all similar in price for similar features. These are in line with Apple prices, too. (iPhone 5 is $649 for 16GB to $849 for 64GB).

I believed the Nexus 4 was subsidized. The price on foreign carriers was pretty high, too.

Point: Pricey? Maybe. Higher than normal? Definitely not. 
 
Why anybody would think these two companies would undercut their own prices, on their own, brand new, still on the shelves, standard edition devices by hundreds of dollars is beyond me... Uh, no, they aren't going to do that, that's ridiculous...

Also, for years, we read comments on how crappy the manufacturer software is, TouchWiz crap, Sense crap.... They put out a Google Edition without any of that and now I watch everyone back peddle... Oh can we get just this part of your manufacturer software, or just that part of your software... Geesh, if you want all that it's available off the shelves at Best Buy, standard edition.... Same price... 
 
I absolutely would vote with my wallet and get the NE One.  However, it's missing the old HSPA band T-Mobile uses, so it is useless to me for at least a few months until my area is refarmed.  So T-Mobile-branded One for me it is.
 
I cannot say that I agree with this.. I am glad to have "Vanilla" Android on two awesome phones but in all honest it may have done good things with the GS4 just because of the lag on the phone, however with the HTCOne I do not think it was a good idea.. Nexus phones are where Vanilla is at not these "neutered" phones... Faux Nexus phones is what I would call them. There can be multiple Nexus devices but Nexus means that it was designed from the ground up with collaboration from Google.. Not an afterthought. And the Nexus 4 with the 350$ price point is amazing.. Freaking 600$ for these Faux Nexus devices... yeah not gonna happen... 
 
The price is too damn high. Since there's no carrier kickback, there's no need for these devices to cost the same as the carrier-branded devices that are sold at on-contract "subsidized" pricing.
 
The problem is that both AT&T and T-Mobile have terrible coverage where I live, where I work, and even where I'll be moving. What's worse is the phone I'd consider buying, the HTC One, doesn't even support the band of 3G in any of those places. I'm hardly paying the unsubsidized price for a phone that won't be of any use to me.
 
One overlooked feature I am concerned about is the fact that +T-Mobile customers don't seem to be getting anything of value here. The HTC One Google Edition is the one with AT&T bands, which means if you're not in one of the very limited refarmed areas, or slightly less limited LTE areas, You have a very nice wifi device that can make calls from elsewhere. I understand that there are limited customers from the #4 network, but since the version sold in T-mobile stores runs AT&T bands just fine, wouldn't it make more sense to use that as a base to reach more potential customers?

Samsung is making a device that works with T-mobile, which is great if you like the design/style/plasticky ethic, which I don't. So, while I would love to support the decision to offer a plain old android build, I am not going to be paying an ETF and switch to a carrier I hate, or get a phone that I'm just not that interested in. I want an HTC One, and I am on T-Mobile, which means that I will happily purchase (at full price even) a T-Mo variant with Sense, and if I decide that I just HAVE to have an AOSP build, I will have no problem with unlocking it and installing Cyanogenmod. But I am sad that once again, I am sitting here waving my dollars around going "Why don't you want my money?"
 
There is too much discussion in this thread; completely contrary to what this article is about. Stop speculating about what should be done and get out there and BUY ONE OF THESE PHONES if it is something you like and think should continue. If you can't live without carrier subsidies, buy the phone on a 2-year loan, as that is essentially what a subsidy is, and you won't be locked on to a single carrier.
 
+James Betker a loan is probably better, as a loan ends at some point... The subsidy, unless on TMo's revamped plans, doesn't end, ever... ;-) 
 
If Samsung/HTC/Google really wanted to conduct a sound experiment regarding the demand for premium devices running stock Android, they should have announced them before the Galaxy S4 and HTC One were released via the wireless carriers. If you're going after the early adopter crowd, you can't very well delay the announcement until a month after a product launch and expect it to be a success.
 
+James Pakele This uses the AT&T radios, which only differ from the T-Mobile version in lacking HSPA+ on AWS.

It really could push people to the S4, which I believe uses both T-Mobile and AT&T frequencies.
 
I have no problem voting with my wallet. My problem lies in picking the right horse.
 
+Klo Utley I don't know if they are after the early adopter crowd... They are definitely after the crowd that may have been waiting for the next Nexus iteration though... 
 
That said, I would LOVE to see a comparison of these three phones 'Nexus' versions once they are all out.
 
I would love to buy the GE phones, too bad they are American only....
 
I'd throw my money at these phones, or even the Nexus phones. If only they were available in Singapore via the Play Store. 
 
I'd love to vote with my wallet but Google doesn't want my Canadian money.
 
I'd love to vote with my wallet but no one makes devices like this with hardware keyboards, and I value that feature far more than a "pure Android experience".
 
I'd love to vote, Google gives no shit about anywhere that's not the US.

Shit I had to jump through hoops just to get Google Music on my phone.
 
Nexus will become relevant and successful when the Nexus phones are subsidized through service providers. The program's failure has nothing to do with demand - there are plenty of people who aren't nerdy IT gurus and would love to have a pure Google experience, but prefer purchasing subsidized phones because of the difference in the up-front cost.

On top of this, T-Mobile is the only US carrier that makes subsidy fees transparent, and leaves them off your bill if you don't buy your phone through the carrier. Too bad they have terrible coverage outside of major cities and interstate corridors. This is why I won't get a Nexus phone - Verizon and AT&T are my only options if I want good reception in my home area, but both of them (and Sprint, for that matter) will still charge me $20 or more per month even if I provide my own phone.
 
sure if they expand the nexus line to latin america, because we have expensive overpriced flagship, lowend expensive crap, blackberrys and dumb phones.

Tell me who dont want a good, cheap and capable phone.... Only americans complain about nexus line because they rather like to be tied into 2 years contracts for a 199 iphone5
 
+Russell Holly But they don't make high end spec phones with full keyboards anymore. I miss the G series.
 
I would be so up for buying an SGS4GE, but 1) Google is only selling them on the US site, and 2) Google still doesn't sell hardware to Ireland, period.  Google needs to get their shit straightened out.  It's a global internet ffs.  They built their entire business around that concept so they should know better than everyone else.
 
Proud Nexus 4 owner voting with my wallet :) Prepaid and unlocked is definitely the way to go, and I love everything about this new paradigm that the market is opening to.
 
Needs to be on Verizon. My money is ready.
 
I would have loved a Google Edition S4, however, as it will not be available from my carrier, and I could not afford to buy it outright. I hope you offer these AOSP roms to 'non' google edition versions of each phone.
 
I don't know what market these devices are for.

Technical people will root/rom their normal htc1/s4 anyway, if they were really after the "google experience"

Normal people won't pay more for the same thing

Why would a developer or technical person have any more or less incentive to by these google edition phones if they are priced the same?
 
+Hayk Saakian Time is money, less time spent fidgeting with your gear means you're spending more time being productive.  So there's plenty of developers who want a powerful vanilla phone to test their apps with as well as use in their life, which is still supported if something goes horribly wrong.
 
+Edward Vanance HTC has said that they are looking into providing the ROM since "it's the same hardware", so I'm guessing CDMA (Verizon, Sprint) is out.

No word from Samsung that I've seen.
 
Keeping my fingers crossed regardless, but at least TouchWiz isn't that bad this iteration in the meantime :)
 
You know who buys the N4, real people.  Four guys at work have already picked up theirs, after you tell them the price and couple that with you can use a cheap pre paid MNVO they are in ( and these guys are your perfect example of blue-collar non tech people that you can get)

People will buy these vanilla phones from Samsung or HTC, not millions.  But all your arm chair tech bloggers in here forget one thing.  Samsung and HTC are already selling these phones, so they have to make a phone they already making.  

Then they will benefit from getting proper drivers from Google for their different hardware.  Faster update cycles will emerge and at those apple keynotes you will see less and less "well android phones run three year old software"

It wont be overnight like most of you expect, but you guys are really against google opening up their support for other OEMs to help them catch up?  This is more or less google doing like they said they were going to do with their products "focusing"
Eric T
 
No 1700 band on the HTC One (Nexus edition). Just get the Pentaband T-Mobile one and slap AOSP on it. No clue why Google didn't use the T-Mobile hardware since it has all the necessary bands.
 
i didn't read all the comments here, but i will be voting with my wallet, unfortunately it will be by not buying one of these, i love my galaxy nexus, i love its vanilla android, its direct from google updates, its top hardware all for a very very good price but thats where my issue lays, you'd think from all the things i loved there id jump on a google edition phone, but why should i pay $100 more then the device's retail cost for them to remove there OEM rubbish.

flashing and roms aside (the free way to get a google edition of any phone) i just dont want to see a trend start where a device comes out with its OEM bloated version and then a google edition for $100 more, one could argue that after this initial round of $100 extra devices the OEMs will wise up and sell them at the same price but when have big corporations ever given up the extra $ people are already paying (when they werent going bankrupt)

if these round 1 google edition devices were the same cost as the regular devices except only available from the play store, even if you had to tack on the mere $15 for postage, id be all over it
 
I'd KILL for one of those phones. But there is a sligh problem: I DON'T LIVE IN THE US.
You want me to vote with my wallet, then GIVE ME THE POWER TO VOTE!!! Seriously, I hate how every new step Google makes is only enjoyable for those in USA and maybe Canada. I live in Chile and I still can't use Google Maps in Offline Mode or Google Maps Navigation. What's the deal, Google?!?!?!
 
+Russell Holly If Google really needs to go big with this then they need to release it in more countries. Making is just US only where most phones are sold via carrier subsidies and people think $600 for a phone is too much isn't going to help.
 
I would kill for an HTC One Google Edition but I never saw it coming, and wanting to support an awesome company in hard times I preordered the One right away. I'm on Sprint anyway so I don't think I could get the Google Edition regardless, but I know I'll have great dev-support on this device and look forward to a vanilla-Android  ROM.
 
Would love a s4 one, but my question would be if it looses the features like air gestures ect? And if so i shirly hope they arent gonna charge 600$ for it... Than it wouldnt be worth it
 
+El hijo Del rio That's kind of the point.  The base OS is totally unaltered.  No Sense, no S-Apps, no nuffin.
Eric T
 
+Chad Vincent which is what makes an AOSP device like the One or S4 pretty confusing. I'm all about AOSP bit when it strips features to the bone it makes me wonder what the attraction is. 
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