Questions for those who believe Jesus is the Most High GOD:
Is Jesus ALL KNOWING God?
Everybody agrees that our Most High GOD is ALL KNOWING (Omniscient) as explained in:
Psalm 147:5 “Great is our YHVH and mighty in power; His UNDERSTANDING has NO LIMIT.” and also in:
Isaiah 46:9 “I am GOD, and there is none like me, declaring THE END FROM THE BEGINNING and from ancient times things not yet done.”
"IF" Jesus is the Most High GOD he should know THE END FROM THE BEGINNING, correct? Here is what the scriptures teaches:
“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father (the one true GOD) alone."
Some say Jesus was not fully GOD while on the earth. Well how about many years after his resurrection when Jesus was already seated at the right hand of GOD in the HEAVEN (he was NEXT to GOD):
Revelation 1:1 “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which GOD GAVE to him, …” --
-- "IF" Jesus is the Most High GOD shouldn’t he know THE END FROM THE BEGINNING. So why does the scripture teach that GOD needed to give Jesus a revelation about THE END OF TIMES? IF Jesus is the Most High GOD shouldn’t he be ALL KNOWING (Omniscient)?
Should we understand who Jesus is from man made doctrines or from Jesus' teachings?
“He (Jesus) said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, "You are Christ (Messiah) the son *OF*
the living GOD." 17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by *MY*
Father IN HEAVEN."
Jesus taught us in John 15 “I am the true VINE, and my Father is the GARDENER.”
In this parable, Jesus is teaching us about his PLACE in regards to the Father. The GARDENER is his FATHER and his GOD (John 20:17
). Now isn't the planted VINE (Jesus) GOD’s first CREATION as confirmed by another witness in the bible:
“The son is the image OF the invisible GOD, the firstborn from all CREATION.”
We need to always consider the CONTEXT:
Jesus said in John 10:30
“I and the Father are ONE."
The question is what did Jesus mean by that?
Jesus explains in: John 17:11
“I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that THEY may be ONE as WE are ONE.”
So Jesus explained to us that he wants US, ALL the followers of GOD, be ONE as he is ONE with the Father.
Don't you think that Jesus' teaching RULES OUT the traditional Christian understanding of John 10:30
Jesus said in John 14:9 “... Anyone who has SEEN me has SEEN the Father. …”
The question is: What did Jesus MEAN by saying “who has SEEN me”? The one way to find out is to be like Bereans and search other related passages since scripture WILL interpret scripture for us.
In John 5:37
Jesus said: “And the Father who sent me has Himself testified concerning me. You have NEVER HEARD His VOICE nor SEEN His form, …”
Since Jesus teaches us in John 5:37
you have NEVER heard the Father’s voice and you have never seen the Father, did Jesus CONTRADICT himself in John 14:9 by saying: because you have SEEN me you have LITERALLY seen the Father? Of course not.
So what did Jesus mean by saying “who has SEEN me”? The word “SEE” has other meanings such as to “UNDERSTAND”, etc. This works in many languages including English till this very day. When a friend describes a person to me over the phone and I reply “I SEE” I don’t mean I had literally SEEN the person. What I mean is I UNDERSTOOD the description of the person.
That’s why John 14:9 should be seen/understood as: Anyone who has SEEN / UNDERSTOOD Jesus has SEEN / UNDERSTOOD the Father.
Jesus elaborated on this and teaches us the following: John 14:24
“... the word which you hear is NOT mine, but the Father's who SENT me.” and John 7:16
“Jesus answered, "My teaching is NOT my OWN. It comes from the ONE who SENT me.” and in John 12:49
“For I did NOT speak on my OWN, but the FATHER who SENT me COMMANDED me to say all that I have spoken.”
In other words if you can SEE / UNDERSTAND Jesus' teaching then you can SEE/UNDERSTAND the Father because those teachings came originally from the one true GOD.
In addition to John 5:37
, do we have other scriptures that supports this interpretation?
“But He (GOD) said, "You cannot SEE My face, for NO MAN can see Me and live!"
1 John 4:12
“NO ONE has EVER SEEN GOD; ...”
Can these scriptures and Jesus' words be any more CLEAR?
Is Jesus the Most High GOD, the one true GOD? Or is Jesus an appointed god? What is the definition of the word god (elohim in hebrew) based on the bible?
Disclaimer: Notice that any CAPITAL letters or any text in parentheses are mine emphases as the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek writings do NOT have capital letters. Also I recommend you to be like Bereans and examine the Scriptures every day to see if what I wrote is true. (Acts 17:11
I was used to understand that the word “god - elohim” can refer either to the one true GOD or to FALSE gods. In other words I understood the word had only TWO meanings. However, as I kept searching through the scriptures I noticed there is a distinct, THIRD category and that is “appointed gods”, who are servants of the one true GOD and who were APPOINTED and given AUTHORITY from the one true GOD, the Father. The reason I was not aware of this before is due to Jewish and Christian translations rendering these “god - elohim” passages as “leaders”, “judges”, “mighty ones”, etc.
So who falls into this category of “appointed gods” and which scriptures support this interpretation?
Judges as “appointed gods”:
Exodus 22:8 "If the thief is not caught, then the owner of the house shall appear before the god (in Hebrew “haelohim” referring to a judge), to determine whether he laid his hands on his neighbor's property. ... the case of both parties shall come before the judge (haelohim; before the god); he whom the judge (in Hebrew: elohim, god) condemns shall pay double to his neighbor.”
Exodus 21:6. “his master shall bring him to the god (haelohim, referring to a judge), and he shall bring him to the door or to the doorpost, …”
Leaders as “appointed gods”:
“And he (Aaron) will speak for you (Moses) to the people, and it will be that he (Aaron) will be your speaker, and you (Moses) will be his god (in Hebrew "elohim"). - Notice that God just gave Moses an authority and appointed him god (elohim).
Exodus 7:1 Then YHVH (LORD) said to Moses, "See, I make you god (elohim) to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet. -- Notice that GOD just gave Moses the AUTHORITY to be the appointed “god” over the most powerful leader on the earth.
Angels as “appointed gods”:
Psalm 82:1 A song of Asaph. God (Elohim) stands in the congregation of God (El); in the midst of gods (elohim, referring to the angels) He will judge.
Psalm 82:6 I said, "You are gods (elohim), and all of you are Sons of the Most High.” -- Notice that the angels are called gods and the SONS of the Most High God YHVH (LORD).
2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age (referring to satan - the angel accuser) has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Messiah, who is the image of God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was WITH God, and the word was god.
The scripture explains to us that our Father is the God of these “appointed gods” in:
"For YHVH (LORD) your God He is the God (Elohe) of THE gods (ha elohim) …”
So HOW do we distinguish between the “appointed gods” and the one true God, the Most High God YHVH?
Romans 13:1 "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is NO authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are APPOINTED by God."
We shouldn’t even need any scriptures for this common sense understanding that all AUTHORITY and all APPOINTMENTS come from the one true GOD. Therefore you will know whomever was given the title “god - elohim” and proclaims to be APPOINTED and GIVEN AUTHORITY you will know he or she acts as an “appointed god* on behalf of the one true GOD
What category does Jesus belong to? Jesus told us himself:
"For I (Jesus) have NOT spoken on my own AUTHORITY but the Father who sent me gave me a command what I should say and what I should speak."
"And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All AUTHORITY has been GIVEN to me in heaven and on earth." --
--- Right here is Jesus teaching us that he is NOT the one true GOD because the Most High GOD can NOT be APPOINTED and can NOT be given an authority. Jesus was MADE the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords and the scripture also teaches us that Jesus's authority does not include the Highest King, the one true God, the Father:
“I saw in the visions of the night, and behold with the clouds of the heaven, one like a son of man (the Messiah) was coming, and he (the Messiah) came up to the Ancient of Days (to GOD) and was brought before Him. 14. And He (GOD) gave him (to the Messiah) dominion and glory and a kingdom, and all peoples, nations, and tongues shall serve him (the Messiah); his dominion is an eternal dominion, which will not be removed, and his (the Messiah’s) kingdom is one which will not be destroyed.”
Now compare the scriptures of Daniel with the first century scriptures: 1 Cor 15:27
“For He (GOD) “has put everything under his (Messiah’s) feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him (under Messiah), it is CLEAR that this does NOT include GOD Himself, who put everything under Messiah.”
The Messiah taught us himself that he was GIVEN an AUTHORITY from our Father and in this way Jesus is teaching us in the scriptures that he is an appointed god because the one true GOD can NOT be given an authority nor can He be appointed because GOD is the El Elyon, He is the most High GOD..
In conclusion, to put it all together when Isaiah 44:6 states there is no other God besides YHVH (LORD) it means there is only one true GOD and that is our Father. And when Deut 10:17
says that YHVH (LORD) is “GOD of the gods” it means that GOD is the GOD of all of His appointed gods. I’d like to praise our GOD for giving me an understanding which I am able to share and explain from His WRITTEN Word to other believers. If I made any mistake or I am missing anything please do let me know as I am always searching for any scriptures that could enhance my current understanding. May our most high GOD open our eyes and our ears and give us the understanding of His scriptures!
Always remember Jeremiah 29:13
"You WILL search for me, and you WILL find me, WHEN you search for me with ALL your heart."