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errors in interpretation from my fellow socialists

There are a few ways socialists can react to the current mess in Venezuela in a way that doesn't favour the regime:
1) Take a firm stance on commitment to democracy, and accept that Chavez's party has failed to do what it needed to merit continued support. This is hard; much of the time people are more committed to their other values than to democracy itself. I actually don't take such a strong commitment to national democracy.
2) Take a positive stance on commitment to pluralism and openness, and note that Chavez's party has failed to accept pluralism and has by these metrics radically abused its power. I find this convincing.
3) Take a positive stance on technocracy and note that Chavez's party has cannibalised Venezuela's future for short-term (and now past) populist gain. I also take this stance

One doesn't need to explicitly support the capitalist opposition to oppose the current regime; rather, I suggest a procedural stand against it with a call for new socialist leadership that's well-behaved, pluralist, and long-thinking. Provisionally, joining the groups trying to unseat Maduro is something I recommend; the current form of socialism practiced by that movement is damaging to socialism by being crazy and shortsighted.

I condemn those socialist groups that are supporting the Maduro regime out of solidarity; the point of solidarity on the small scale may be to aid fellow socialists who are good-willed, but when taken to a large scale, the point must be finding and broadening paths that lead nations to adopt forms of socialism that are actually worth living in. When we see a socialist regime arresting its opposition, closing independent news media, cutting off internet, and otherwise burning its regime, we should not support it; we are obliged to oppose it even if it appears to be fighting for some version of a reshaping of social classes. That war's just not worth it at that price. We need to offer an alternative; a socialism where it is safe for people to disagree with it, just as we can feel safe (in modern times) espousing socialism in the West. Our metric must not be anything that calls itself socialism at any cost, but rather the right socialism at the right cost.

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That is a great point Mr. Gunn, it is definitely frustrating, not to say infuriating, to see how people in plural societies tend to give socialist credentials, in such a gratuitous way, to any demagogue who claims to have achieve a better living for its people. I am outraged, at the level of division there is in Venezuelan society today, and in this, the Venezuelan government has a big responsibility; an incendiary discourse has been overused during the last decade, a discourse of resentment and hatred that was used to achieve people’s cohesion the easiest way, this, because of a lack of a more constructive discourse . This lack of depth, comes from a party organization that privileges political loyalty over merits, again, socialism recurring to sectarian politics for the sake of power griping.
 Of all the types of socialism Venezuela chose the worst, and so are doing those, who from the industrial plural society, advocate for a system that denies its citizens the social benefits of a plural and tolerant society.  

This people supporting Chavismo overseas tend to be always the same people, a team of friend of the regime, who are more political clients, than activists.

Thank you,
+Gina Monc Thanks; I'm doing my best to stay informed of the happenings in the country, but it's not the easiest thing in the world (and American news media are sleeping on the job as usual).
Thank you VERY MUCH +Pat Gunn for writing this. You have no idea how difficult is for a Venezuelan, in this particular and difficult time for us, to say he or she is against Maduro's government without receiving the usual "fascist!" slap from the Left. 

I wish there were more like you in the Left...
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