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Well, I seem to have you thinking about it, and that was the objective.
Non-existence is a singular category. You can't logically make distinctions, differentiations or gradations of it. When people express themselves in ways that necessitate such, they are making unreasonable statements, whether intentionally or not.Mar 31, 2015
- Oh, sure, this is a very interesting discussion. No argument on that front. :) But I ain't convinced !
"Non-existence is a singular category. You can't logically make distinctions, differentiations or gradations of it. "
Agreed. But how does that prevent people from believing that specific things don't exist ?
Signing off for the night !Mar 31, 2015
- This is the way all internet conversations should be like: respectful of each others' views, great facts, clearly spelled out visions, and constructive dialogue. Thanks guys!Mar 31, 2015
- ... and five minutes after I signed off, the answer hit me.
Some atheists believe God is fictional. In the absence of proof that he exists, they think he's a product of human imagination designed to make us feel better.
Of course, I can imagine all kinds of crazy notions that have no physical reality but are nonetheless completely distinct from one another. For instance, I believe stories of alien abduction are merely stories (lies, hysteria, whatever). I believe the story itself is a real story, but the things within it have no physical substance. These are completely distinct from my invisible seventy-tonne goat, which also lacks physical substance but is nonetheless a completely different concept.
Which means, of course, that some kinds of atheism are indeed a belief. :)Apr 1, 2015
- As I've been at great pains to point out, some atheists merely lack belief in gods, whereas others actively believe god is imaginary.
EDIT : And since I don't think I can emphasise this point enough, more than 99% of the so-called atheists I encounter in real life do fall into this "lack of belief" category - they just don't care about the issue that much. I've only met two of these more extreme anti-theists face to face, but I encounter them all the time on the internet. Their behaviour is identical to the religious; they will even try to convert me to their un-faith (even though I'm an agnostic and therefore no more believe in gods than they do). I don't think it's possible to have an extreme lack of belief that causes this behaviour - you need some conviction that things are better if we do it this way.
As far as I'm concerned, that's a belief. It's rare, but it does happen.Apr 2, 2015
your commentary it's based on your own imagination and perception because you have been hypnotised by a very good persuation methode with very well media communication.
see/read to this facts which you forget :
alot or some Pagan religion, they worship "real idols" and not imaginary (such as wind, volcano mountain, sea, fire "in Majusy", sun).
Their religion is/was based on a worshiping to powerfull things which in fact that idols have power(energy) which those pagan think, with that power, can support their life.
So not all religion worship to fantasy idols (non exist idol).
While Arab monotheism worship to "The Most Powerfull", and in Science , The Most Powerfull "certainly exist" (if larger power exist "which some were worshiped by pagan" ) ofcourse "certainly" from all that large power, certainly there is one The Most Powerfull for all of universe).
, so because The Most Powerfull is exist. so it's only in your thingking/your imagination , if you think The Most Powerfull/Energyfull is not exist, why , it's because you think you can not communicate and can not detect Him, while your brain stop to think logic and scientific, That God whose mentioned in Religion, is about The owner of large Energy, in monotheism faith, He is The Most Powerfull/Energyfull or has unlimited power more than all total energy in our universe. He certainly Exist , if you think His quantity zero (which make your equation meet zero energy or zero joule), your equation about The Energy of The Most Powerfull, will meet an "Error" and not unlimit, because you set His quantity as zero/nul (bcause of your faith).
Only some religion which worship to some fantasy idols.
Some Pagan worships to "Real Things".
and Arab Monotheism people (Real monotheism and not trinity doctrine) worship to The Most Powerfull (which certainly He is Exist, He own all total energy in our universe and in total energy in total other universe,He own total energy which ever exist ).
And only some religion which worship "Fantasy idols from their imagination".
"Think it carefully, now you know, Atheist's thingking and idea, is "Imposible" and "unscientific" and it's agains science (about Energy).Apr 2, 2015
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