Profile

Cover photo
Nate Allen
Works at Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
Attended Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
Lives in Bensalem, PA
117 followers|182,438 views
AboutPostsPhotosYouTubeReviews

Stream

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
 
The forgotten Trolley Line
1
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
 
My 2014 in photos.
1
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
 
A good explanation of why I remain heavily skeptical of this engine... Or snake oil, call it what you will.
 
The incredible shrinking force

Around 2000, a guy named Roger Shawyer claimed he could bounce microwaves inside a fancy-shaped can and get them to  push the can forwards, without anything leaving the can. 

This would violate conservation of momentum.  It's like sitting inside a car and making it roll forwards by pushing on the steering wheel.  Standard physics doesn't allow this.  He didn't claim to be using anything other than standard physics. 

So: ho hum, just another guy with a really bad idea.  I get emails like this all the time.

But in 2001, his company got a £45,000 grant from the British government to study this idea.  He built his machine and claimed that with 850 watts of power he could get a force of 0.016 newtons.   That's a bit less than the force of gravity from a penny pushing down on your hand.  It could easily be an experimental error.

Why would people want a machine that uses lots of power to create a pathetically feeble force?   Because - here's the great piece of salesmanship - if it existed, you could use it to build a reactionless drive!  If you had a spaceship with huge amounts of power to spare - like, say, a nuclear reactor - you could use this gizmo to push your spaceship forwards without anything spewing out the back end. 

Again, this is about as plausible as powering a spaceship by having the crew push on it from the inside.   But if you don't know physics, it sounds very exciting. 

The story goes on.  And on.  And on.  It won't die.  In 2012, some Chinese physicists claimed they could get a force of 0.720 newtons from a power of 2,500 watts using some version of Shawyer's device. 

And now NASA is studying it!

They're claiming to see a force one thousandth as big as the Chinese - probably because they are doing the experiment one thousand times more accurately.  And still, some people are excited about this. 

The new device comes with new improved mumbo-jumbo.  Shawyer claimed that thanks to special relativity, classical electromagnetism can violate conservation of momentum.  I took those courses in college, I know that's baloney.  Now the NASA scientists say:

"Test results indicate that the RF resonant cavity thruster design, which is unique as an electric propulsion device, is producing a force that is not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon and therefore is potentially demonstrating an interaction with the quantum vacuum virtual plasma."

This is baloney too - but now it's graduate-level baloney.  "Quantum vacuum virtual plasma" is something you'd say if you failed a course in quantum field theory and then smoked too much weed.  There's no such thing as "virtual plasma".   If you want to report experimental results that seem to violate the known laws of physics, fine.  But it doesn't help your credibility to make up goofy pseudo-explanations.

I expect that in 10 years the device will be using quantum gravity and producing even less force. 

For an article written by a severely optimistic blogger, see:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive

For the NASA report see:

• David Brady, Harold White, Paul March, James Lawrence and Frank Davies, Anomalous thrust production from an RF test device measured on a low-thrust torsion pendulum, 50th AIAA/ASME/SAE/ASEE Joint Propulsion Conference, http://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2014-4029.  Free version available at http://rghost.net/57230791.

Unfortunately only the abstract is free in the official version.
1
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
 
Center city Philadelphia 
1
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
2
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

> Architecture Photos  - 
24
Add a comment...
In his circles
137 people
Have him in circles
117 people
OUYA's profile photo
Radwan Chowdhury's profile photo
Katherine Heugel's profile photo
Tom G's profile photo
Rebecca Ahern's profile photo
Asad Mrida's profile photo
Arkansas - The Natural State's profile photo
Mạnh Lưu's profile photo
Mega Thingz's profile photo

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
 
The Silver Sunlight - Horses of Ashford Farms
1
Kileen Allen's profile photo
 
Oh, Pinto's my favorite. Was this taken today?
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
2
Larry Allen's profile photo
 
Very nice video
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
 
If you aren't automatically uploading pictures to Google+, I highly suggest you change that... G+ automatically makes "stories" out of your trips long distance or even locally... Case and Point, check this story.
1
Michael Slaunwhite's profile photo
 
Thanks for showing this to us.  I am going to try it out after my vacation.
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
 
Tom makes a point
 
Today Michael Powell said: "the potholes visible through your windshield, the shiver you feel in a cold house after a snowstorm knocks out the power, and the water-main breaks along your commute should restrain one from embracing the illusory virtues of public utility regulation.”
http://recode.net/2014/04/29/cable-industry-head-warns-about-regulation-of-internet-lines/

To which I say:

“the buffering visible on your videos, the shiver you feel when an ISP inserts ads on your 404 pages, and the ever-lengthening ping times along your favorite traceroutes should restrain one from embracing the illusory virtues of government-sanctioned duopolies.”
Cable's top lobbyist says the Internet works better because it’s not regulated like public utilities.
1
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

> Black & White Photos  - 
 
Morning AT The Heliport
5
Add a comment...

Nate Allen

Shared publicly  - 
1
Add a comment...
People
In his circles
137 people
Have him in circles
117 people
OUYA's profile photo
Radwan Chowdhury's profile photo
Katherine Heugel's profile photo
Tom G's profile photo
Rebecca Ahern's profile photo
Asad Mrida's profile photo
Arkansas - The Natural State's profile photo
Mạnh Lưu's profile photo
Mega Thingz's profile photo
Work
Occupation
Design Engineer
Employment
  • Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory
    Design Engineer, 2013 - present
    Design ITER Fusion Reactor Diagnostic Ports
  • Labinal Inc.
    Liaison Engineer, 2010 - 2012
  • Labinal Inc.
    Lead Engineer, 2008 - 2010
  • Labinal Inc.
    Design Engineer, 2007 - 2008
  • Labinal Inc
    Design Engineer, 2012 - 2013
    Chinook Helicopters
Places
Map of the places this user has livedMap of the places this user has livedMap of the places this user has lived
Currently
Bensalem, PA
Previously
Wilmington, DE - Little Rock, AR - Baldwinsville, NY - Daytona Beach, FL - Wichita, KS
Story
Tagline
Master Tokamak Builder; Ruler of the Second Law of Thermodynamics
Introduction
Technophile, Geek, Photographer, Rocket Scientist, and Skeptic
Education
  • Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
    Aerospace Engineering (Astronautics), 2003 - 2007
  • C.W. Baker High School
    2001 - 2003
Basic Information
Gender
Male
Birthday
August 5
Relationship
Single
Other names
Nathan
Apps with Google+ Sign-in
  • Word Search
  • Angry Birds Stella POP!
  • Angry Birds Stella
  • Pancake – The Game
  • God of Light
  • Unpossible
  • Biotix:Phage Genesis
  • Spirit Storm
  • Linken
  • AdVenture Capitalist
  • AlphaBear
  • Jurassic Park Builder
  • Bio Inc.
The food was absolutely amazing. Highly recommend a visit if you are in the area. It is a bit pricey, but the food is worth the high price tag.
Food: ExcellentDecor: ExcellentService: Very Good
Public - 2 years ago
reviewed 2 years ago
Service was a little slow at times, but the food was excellent. Definately recommend the hummus!
Food: ExcellentDecor: ExcellentService: Good
Public - 2 years ago
reviewed 2 years ago
Food: ExcellentDecor: ExcellentService: Very Good
Public - 2 years ago
reviewed 2 years ago
Food was mediocre, service wasn't too good, not awful but definitely not up to the high price tag on some of the items
Food: GoodDecor: Very GoodService: Poor - Fair
Public - 3 years ago
reviewed 3 years ago
23 reviews
Map
Map
Map
Very fast service, and the Pad Thai was fantastic. Highly recommended!
Food: ExcellentDecor: GoodService: Excellent
Public - 2 years ago
reviewed 2 years ago
Went here a few times, great food, good service, and when it's nice, you can eat outside. Highly recommended
Food: ExcellentDecor: ExcellentService: Excellent
Public - 2 years ago
reviewed 2 years ago
Absolutely amazing food, and fantastic service! Best food I've had in a while
Quality: ExcellentAppeal: ExcellentService: Excellent
Public - 3 years ago
reviewed 3 years ago