Shared publicly  - 
 
Can't agree more to this. Well done +Amanda Blain
 
Google Plus Ghost Town? My Open Letter to The Misguided Reporters

Know what the common theme is between all these “ghost town posts”? No interviews. No named sources. Lots of reporters who never used it. A quick search usually shows that the reporter has not used Google+ themselves. Likely to not even post the article they just wrote about the platform. In fact most have less than 20 people circled and more often than not... have never even posted. Awesome. Good Reporters generally go out and interview people who are involved with something before they write a story, if they themselves don’t have first hand experience. This is fringe opinion piece media. Yet tons of these garbage articles keep getting posted on major tech publications presenting like its the facts.

I figured it was time I wrote a letter to these reporters. Please media… realize that I have tried to reach out and talk to many of you, do interviews, and help you get these points, but too many times you tell me “your company doesn’t care about writing about the positive sides of Google+” or that “other stories are more important than G+ success”. Yet whenever anything could possibly be seen as negative about G+, all of your websites light up with a million ghost town posts. It’s time the users of G+ spoke out…  I’ll start. Here are my thoughts for you.

Dear Reporters Who Can’t Be Bothered To Learn About Google+ Before Writing Your Ridiculous Articles About It;

I know this is going to be hard for some of you. You have been a good tech writer, involved in social media probably for awhile, and spent time building up your Facebook account and Twitter profile. When Google+ came along, many of your company Tech websites had already done things like integrate Facebook comments or sometimes heck, even invest in Facebook themselves! You certainly didn’t have time to get involved in another social network, and come on.. “Google has never got social”. Your mom isn’t there. Google+ is obviously a ghost town.  Right?

Wrong.

Read the whole thing here:

http://www.amandablain.com/google-plus-ghost-town/

And please share this one Far and wide, on every social network you have. Yeah. I'm asking.

#MyGooglePlusStory #GooglePlus   #VicGundotra   #socialmedia  
It's that time again. Google Plus Ghost Town from the media and reporters. This round is brought to you because Vic Gundotra the guy behind the Google plus project, announced today that he would be leaving Google. Vic is a great guy and im sure ...
141
19
Giuseppe Guerrasio (Lobotomia)'s profile photoDavid Radicke's profile photoTony C's profile photoJohn Britsios (Webnauts)'s profile photo
30 comments
 
So she likes G+, I like G+.
Still, only about 10% of my Facebook friends have a G+ profile, maybe about 5% actually use it sporadically, and that's coincidentally only those with a technology background. 
To me G+' appeal is the thriving tech and developer community and the resulting high quality discussions. Also, G+ seems to encourage making new contacts and discussing with people you don't know, which again could be partly due to the fact that most friends you know in person are on Facebook instead. 
So yeah, none of my non-technology friends use G+, and despite Google's efforts to force (that's what it is) people on G+, that has not changed over the last years. That doesn't make it a Ghost Town, but it's also pretty obvious that the attempt to be a Facebook competitor has failed. 

So we should come to terms with the fact that G+ is yet another special interest social site and is not competing with Facebook at all.
 
+Markus Lindenberg good points, well made. The U.K. is still in love with facebook, with none of my "real friends" interacting on g+. This seems unlikely to change much as youngsters talk on different sites altogether.
 
+Amanda Blain just got one more person to circle her (never seen her before),,, that was well written... Thanks for sharing.
 
I'm delighted none of my real friends are here on G+. Why would I, with the entire planet at my fingertips, want to interact with people I see all the time? I want to meet new people, interesting people. That's why G+ is the first choice for me, others might disagree but it depends on what you want from social media.
 
+Markus Lindenberg I think the part in the article starting with "SOME FACTS:.." and ending with "...Google+ is not even 3 years old yet" could be the reply +Amanda Blain would give you to your comment here (at least it is what I would reply ;) ).
 
Having 4 million people gives me a different perspective.. i likely see different things than the "tech people" see... I see the teenagers using this and doing homework in hangouts, i see people talking about beard tips and kitting tips.... and tons of people cooking, living and sharing.. 

I assure you.. its not just tech here. Its likely that way because....

the people you circle.. are tech people and you've made it that way

:)
 
That's not what I meant to criticize. I do like G+, and I like it's features. I'd like to keep Google's commercial motivation out of this discussion because I think that's a whole different discussion on it's own.
So, from the people's perspective - not just my opinion - here in Germany in my extended social group of hundreds of people, nearly everyone is on Facebook as a social stream. Everyone uses whatsapp to communicate. Very few people do video, if they do they use Skype.
There is just no motivation whatsoever to start using G+ for them. They know their data is tracked and used commercially by those services, but they know that Google does the same.
The fact that G+ is slightly better and more integrated is not enough motivation to come here, it might even be a turn off for them because it's too magic and too with-us-or-without-us. Everybody can grasp the concept of whatsapp or twitter. Facebook starts to look suspicious to many people because it does too much in a too integrated way. G+ is no different in this regard.

So, the question is, as you said +Amanda Blain, what is G+. To say it doesn't want to be a Facebook killer AND it wants to be your social stream for everything contradicts itself because that's what Facebook is. Besides, this means Google's marketing went all wrong because in everyone's mind G+ is "Google's Facebook".

My very personal guess is that people will ultimately back off the highly integrated social networks and use simple, focused services like twitter, whatsapp, instagram. This way they feel like they're more in control and can move to other services if they desire so, even if that's not entirely true.
If this guess should be right, Google's strategy is failing because it went 100% into the opposite direction - to integrate everything, regardless of what users want.
 
So, +Moritz Tolxdorff Saw your mention on +Elaine Lindsay's post. Can anyone at Google confirm, yes or no.... Has the G+ team, 1000 to 1200 like TC says, been repourposed and moved away from G+ or not? That is all want to know, and no one can say for sure. So, can you?
 
+Moritz Tolxdorff So, to be sure, you are saying the "TC 1000 to 1200 G+ team members moving to Android" is a flat out lie and fabrication? Yes? So I can quote you on that and link to this thread. Yes?

Since no one else I have asked for that has responded. I am not going out on a limb and watching my naysayers saw it off behind me my quoting a source that later I cannot be absolutely sure of... OK?
 
Yes, no  one is moving anywhere. Everything will stay as it is.
 
Thank you +Moritz Tolxdorff, screenshotting this and quoting you in the AM to my email list if that is OK with you. Cheers! Moritz!!!
 
Why cant Google as a company come out publicly and slam these lies - I know they have a rule about not commenting on rumours but this level of poor reporting should be called out - belittle these hack journos!
 
We went thru it with GFC, the Gwave and then Buzz +Richard Frost, seems it is better to fabricate lies about Google than tell the truth. Guess it is the king of the hill syndrome...
 
I'm not leaving, I feel more welcome here.
 
+Amanda Blain Enjoyed your post, nice perspective. Here's the curious thing (and perhaps where critics of G+ are coming from). You mention you have 4 million followers / people who have put you in Circles. But, on average, your updates only get a few hundred shares / comments (cat pictures do better, but then that's true of most social networks).

Given that a few hundred interactions on a 4 million number is a pretty poor return (either impression or reach-wise), you can see why people are critical of the interaction / activity aspect of G+, no?
 
+Danny Brown - a lot of critics of G+ haven't even stepped in to use the platform, much less get their data/facts straight.

It is curious how many folks with larger followings have interaction that isn't the same as their numbers indicate they might should, but that's been common across the board with many users.  On one hand, lots of registered users who follow her might be inactive, on the other hand, it does depend on the topic of the post...and cats and bacon certainly help boost those numbers ;)
 
I, and hopefully a majority of G+ members, prefer quality over quantity.
 
Thanks for this, Amanda. It's such a tired rant that G+ is a Ghost Town. I made my voice heard by unfollowing TechCrunch on FB (apparently I never followed them on G+). If they have to be biased in their tech reporting they are no longer a valid source of information. There are too many others reporting facts about tech they actually use.
 
+Amanda Blain I would agree it's not just for "tech" people. I work in the architecture and construction industry and while it has taken some effort, I have created some circles that provide me with incredible information in my areas of interest. I would like to see the discussion step away from the FB comparisons because the conversations on G+ are different - They are interest based, FB is relationship based - two different things IMO.
 
Google + spooky? Not a ghost of a chance! Love these savvy people who help us all get perspective!
 
I think the one thing that makes G+ better is the way it encourages topical discussions and circles that share your interests. I have hugely interesting political discussions, and I already think G+ made a huge difference in preventing some really bad political decisions.
 
While Amanda gave some personal numbers with regard to her followers and interactions, google never publishes numbers.   There are no great overall numbers.

Nothing to measure or compare.  The articles that say google + is  a ghost town and that google + is an incredibly active community both miss one critical important issue.  There are no numbers.

We have Amanda's numbers.  She states she is the 20th most followed person on google +.  Is that a fact?   If so, what is the 20th most followed acct on fb or twitter?   At least there you have 1 set of comparable numbers, albeit not the best one to compare.

Why doesn't google publish data about actual activity.  Don't give us that "follow" number or the one that emphatically states that the stat doesn't require real readers....

Those kinds of data would put definitiveness to the discussions and would be meaningful.

Everything else is speculation
 
In the last four months, one of my favorite car magazines, Car and Driver, has integrated its social comments with Google+ and now they no longer get lost on the far inferior and buggy comment system they used to use, and the other mags still use. I'm sure the other magazines and their advertisers are going to notice this, and more will join in.
 
Another Suggestion would be from a Recent Hangout that +Eric Enge and +Ronnie Bincer Bincer Discuss this exact TOPIC HEAD ON

URGENT NEWS on Google+ HOA's as the #Creator  of Google+ HOA's just left the TEAM, and Eric and Ronnie Confirm this in their LIVE Hangout ONLINE with Google+

A MUST WATCH if you work in this SEO #INDUSTRY, *JUST Food for Thought* .. #KEEPINGthingsREAL  

https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cs90qj32b16ln3eqhkaif7jjk9k

===============================
#HEREISMYTAKE on this Subject:
I was recently on a SHOW with +Ray Hiltz who really stood out to me as a TRUE Brand Builder and Expert... If you look at the Landing Page HOA done for my Presentation on Is Your WordPress Site Secure  ? The Colors are Very Consistent on top of that, Ray also used some Fantastic #HOAaddons I hope maybe he can SHARE on this Hangout Page for all of you guys.

Another thing I want to say is with BRAND building and adding logos to the screen and making it presentable like YES it is #THATCOOLBRAND Going LIVE Online.. SURE I will Be there #MENTALITY Kicks in as well...

When ONLINE #BeREAL  People will see if you are just reading from a SCRIPT or Pre Rehearsed like Stand UP and a Conference type Presentations... BORING, those MAY Get Less Engagement than maybe BE YOURSELF and Have Fun with the Show and Guests, Educate and Stick to the POINT of your TOPIC, try not to sway to far from it or maybe find a way to take that SUBJECT you wanted to distract and talk about build a NEW Show and TALK about it THEN... People are BUSY and if they are just getting a TON of Joking around and NO Value then that is the SAME THING as Looking at a Product Page on a Website with VERY HIGH #BOUNCErates  don't you think you should Spend some time A/B Split Testing this and improve the Conversions just like you would in ORGANIC Optimization as well PAID where you can at least have a Quality Score to Look at for some Ideas. 

THX
Add a comment...