Our Future Societies: Why A Swan?"Bateson's sixth metalogue introduces us to the secret of good branding."
-- +Finn Jackson http://goo.gl/bp3RJ5Evolution of Conversation http://goo.gl/iYB2GU
Conversational learning happens when the participants holds a space larger than, and more inclusive than, their own individual agenda.
When there is such a space, characterised by both inclusivity and curiosity - collective intelligence emerges.
In contrast - when a group of individuals stick to their individual agenda and are low on curiosity, ie, they've already made up their minds what they are going to say, this results in discussion and debate.
If the conversational container holds through among other qualities, the relationships and trustflow, the collective intelligence is then channeled and expressed by all the individual participants, adding their own unique voice and vector.
The resultant vector can be described as scenius, collective intelligence gathered from and expressed by the participants applied to a particular topic and context - in a particular time and place.
Scenius, when applied to a particular topic, resolves some of the dynamics inside the conversational exchange, the complex responsive processes between the participants.
By doing so, there's a delivering of a momentum as well as a dynamic context out of the degree of narrative alignment. Narrative alignment is what happens when we update our maps and models, in favour of reality.+Colin Walker
We all try to create that spark that ignites the fires in others but we are reliant on an unconscious serendipity to truly establish that deep connection that makes the ordinary extraordinary. +John Kellden
Pure brilliance +Colin Walker - now, how to reliably access serendipity? Or is it impossible, and we need to use intuition, hunches, luck?+Colin Walker
That's the secret Bateson talks of - if anyone can truly accomplish that they will change the world. +John Kellden
My hunch is we need the "we" - to achieve it. As for how, my guess is it needs to be a sufficiently eclectic approach. A bit like #seo
writ large...+Joachim Stroh
Sort of an Uncanny Valley , but cloaked in dance, so it affords a positive experience.
That's a magnificent creative translation +Joachim Stroh my hunch is all our emotions is the fitness space. All the other fitness space stuff, is us trying to draw as faithful representations of it as possible.
The essential unit of experience given constraints.Play
A process of meaningmaking where constraints are transformed into contrived contingencies affording learning.
The closest thing to representing the fitness space from the lens of emotion (which actually can't be done, if my hunch holds water, but anyhoo) - it could be likened to a mix of tensegral seamless fabric and bricolage.
The more seeming seamless, the happier the emotion. The more bricolage, the more of school of hard knocks and the more effort we have to put in, to "overcome" our emotions.
A bit of a leap:
This fabric thingy, uncanny valley, death valley, canny valley - it could be that
Hell, Purgatory and Heaven occupy the same space, the only difference being what spoons we bring to the Smorgasbord.
With too much Ego Attachment as our favourite Spoon - then we believe we're in hell. A bit like Project Management extended to all parts of life.
ping to +Barry Kort
fellow traveller... :)
In the middle of battling ourselves, individuation, letting go of our fave spoons, that would be Purgatory.
Heaven would then be:"There is no spoon."
-- that young guy in the Matrix+Joachim Stroh
This,"hell is .. Project Management extended to all parts of life"
is brilliant, so is the definition of heaven. Where did I leave my spoon?+John Kellden
Please don't tell this to any Project Manager...
On second thought, chances are they already know. :)+John Verdon
One key to 'designed serendipity' ( see +John Hagel
) is establishing robust and dynamic networks of loose ties where we can regularly encounter unknown (people, ideas, things, etc.)
But the other aspect that enables us to seize the affordances and opportunities of designed serendipity are certain dispositions such as the questing and social disposition. In addition there is the collective tacit knowledge (a social literacy) that enables those who are involved in the serendipitous encounter to have a 'fluency' to scale their learning in these encounters. This fluency (and its foundation in collective tacit knowledge) is very well discussed in Harry Collins' book "Tacit and Explicit Knowledge" http://goo.gl/0xL7jb
Collins is a Distinguished Research Professor of Sociology and director of the Centre for the Study of Knowledge, Expertise, and Science at Cardiff University and has researched in detail how scientists work - create/discover new knowledge and share it. Well worth the read.+John Kellden
Very insightful +John Verdon and, that book probably needs to be added to the Meeting Minds literary corner.
I'm in the middle of thinking whether it might be a good idea to do HoA Hangouts On Air, as one part of the Sagarmatha Café, 21C Enaction, Make Things Happen topics. This would enable us to have one both very tangible social object to talk about, yet also allow us to choose books, angles, perspectives and metalogues, rich and deep enough to be of value to both participants and listeners/readers...+John Verdon
It's always great to have real-time conversation with like minds :) It's the devil lurking in the scheduling that is thorn. :)
When were you thinking. +John Kellden
I'd like you to know that you can ping me for a Hangout whenever +John Verdon .
Holding space for further unfolding of storylines and tangible outcomes through HoA events, comes mid/late Jan 2015...+Ron Scroggin
The "something" that happens in a performance can't be controlled, but it is served by front-loading with study, preparation and unconscious marination. And aspects of the performance are fed back into the front-loading for subsequent performances.+John Kellden
Yes."We can choose to imagine Seneca smiling."
-- +John Kellden +Colin Kilburn
+Joachim Stroh Yes I was going to post the 'uncanny valley' some time soon. Your good. Posted it to twitter a long time ago. I am now realizing that the image And source is important ... to easy to take sources of things for granted and forget to credit the creator, ... the sighting. I may have found the link here, looking at the post dates of Oct...
The wiki version has a nice SVG recreation of the curve diagram that came from here http://www.androidscience.com/theuncannyvalley/proceedings2005/uncannyvalley.html
(linked from the wiki page)
Art in your mind for a minute
The Matrix and now In Time are 2 of my favorite meta movies. They so clearly delineate the narrative of us and them. 'Eternity' of a few, at the cost of most being fodder for the 'system'..
In the Matrix, the other is AI controlled, or better +Bruce Marko, a hem, synthetic intelligence [purple pill?]).
In In Time, the other is privilege [plastic piles of faux smiles]
Alas, suspended disbelief and the real connection of the artist intent, is absorbed though thought privilege itself; many cannot bare to contemplate their station, it is hard to want and be happy at the same time. Realizing casual causality is as ephemeral as the grass. History rhymes.
Reset laden with default plundering reactivism of the masses on time+Joachim Stroh
Yes, and what happens if you get closer and closer to the climbing side of the uncanny valley - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69746264/uncanny.jpg
A merger sponge - perfect human - a god?
zero volume and infinite surface area in the 3D version ... my facebook avatar.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menger_sponge
Worthy of extended metalogues - the resonances between emotions and fractals.
The heart is resilient and strong, precisely because of fractal heart-rate variability.
Our own individual seemingly separate consciousness, is probably an emergent phenomenon.
From this head-heart fractal, emergent perspective, a third dimension in the diagram...+Colin Kilburn
Sometime symbology is too easy, or too soft to awaken from - the slave, the dreamer, and the thief are the actors. All are molecules at that level stirring away a beautiful feast. The layers (or recursion) are just starting points for the sub-awareness on Joachim's creepy curve.
doh - lost another work of art - recreating is sometimes better, but never fun. As I was typing (edit: actually i didn't ... u get em both - bonus.)
Symbology is sometimes too easy, and can be montra-ed. The actors are the slave, the dreamer and the thief. At a meta level, they just stir away at the stewing pot. The angle of the spoon is just the starting point of one's placement on Joachim's fractal curve. It is relative to the sub-set of your awareness, and the recursion you enjoy.
The box again, where are my boxes? Is there another inside the next?