Martin Gräßlin

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Open Source Software Developer, Maintainer of KDE Plasma Compositor and Window Manager

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KDE's Goals for 2018 and Beyond: Top-notch Usability and Productivity for Basic Software, Privacy Software, Streamlined Onboarding of New Contributors

KDE's Goals for 2018 and Beyond

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Plasma Mobile is running well on the i.MX 6 devboard (only performance is an issue, but that's to be expected at this early stage).
https://puri.sm/posts/running-plasma-mobile-on-an-imx6-test-board/

Running Plasma Mobile on an i.MX 6 test board – Purism

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Just did a little bit of bugzilla search. Searching for all bugs in KWin ever created by mint users: 35
Now let's compare with other distros. E.g. there are currently 99 open bugs by Arch users, 48 open bugs by opensuse users, 89 open bugs by (K)Ubuntu users and 24 open bugs by the rather young neon users. The overall bugs reported by neon users are 120. For the other distros I don't want to do that query as I don't want to torture bugzilla. Mint btw has 3 open bugs.

This means either Mint users don't report bugs or mint has so old software that bugzilla prevents creation. Or Mint is so much better that users don't have bugs or that there are hardly any Mint/Plasma users.

The queries match my expectation: I cannot remember to notice bugs reported by mint users. I always look at distro in bug reports as it helps finding patterns.

So it looks to me like Mint discontinuing their KDE edition is no big deal and the right decision if my assumption is correct that there are hardly any users.

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Clay Weber (claydoh): +Martin Gräßlin Mint's KDE uses Kubuntu packages directly from Ubuntu's 16.04 repositories and/or Kubuntu PPAs. It is little more than #kubuntu Xenial with a different package manager and artwork, which would explain things.

Georg Grabler: Hmh, considering that KDE is not a prime child at Mint it does not come at a surprise.
Arch users being the ones reporting most isn't as well. Usually it's rather the technically more interested person who runs Arch, and it's bleeding edge.

David Edmundson: >For the other distros I don't want to do that query

You lack mad bugzilla skillz.
There's a reports function that is much faster.

Here's a breakdown including closed bugs:

bugs.kde.org - Report: Platform

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Apparently we are in the garbage management department now.

Die Abfallwirtschaft wird neu organisiert - Buchen - Rhein Neckar Zeitung

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Enrico Tagliavini: ROFL, I think there is a KDE fan behind that, cannot believe they choose Kwin for "Kommunalanstalt Kreislaufwirtschaft Neckar-Odenwald"

Martin Gräßlin: +Enrico Tagliavini they do, that's a typical German name. You know what BAMF is? It's the Bundesamt für Migration und Flüchtlinge. If you get something like that wrong...

Enrico Tagliavini: Well ok for BAMF it makes more sense though. Bundesamt is a typical example of German language contracting two words in one, so that's fine. But with "Kommunalanstalt Kreislaufwirtschaft Neckar-Odenwald" I think they stretched it a bit ;)

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After a little bit of hacking yesterday and today I got KDE's flatpak integration work properly on Wayland. As we can see a Wayland window is created and it is properly decorated.

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Alexander Larsson: gnome-shell had to get some special flatpak code for the X11 case because it was using PIDs in some x property and was confused by all apps thinking they where "pid 2".

Alexander Larsson: "_NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 2" in particular.

Martin Gräßlin: +Alexander Larsson the QPA had xcb hardcoded, the QPA name "flatpak" broke some libraries which compare for "xcb" or "wayland". I adjusted some of our code, so that it detects wayland even if it's flatpak

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Automatic screen rotation coming to KWin! Currently Wayland is supported but I'm very optimistic that we will also be able to support X11 till the 5.12 release

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Martin Gräßlin: +Sebastian Kügler input transformation is implemented now (see phab)

Maugre Rain: Awesome! Thanks, Martin! Another Yoga user here so looking forward to trying this out.

Daniel Stone: +Sebastian Kügler You should've seen what I did for the N900, involving XGrabServer and a property hack to suppress all screen-change notifications. Without that, the six relayout/redraw cycles took so long that you couldn't answer the incoming call before it went to voicemail. :\

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Progress: my KWin/Wayland just learned to rotate screens. The cool thing is that this required zero adjustments in kscreen. Good job +Sebastian Kügler

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Cool stuff

Originally shared by Heinz Wiesinger

Everything works out in the end! I remember very heated discussions around this going back a couple of years. It's great to see something productive, and dare I say, awesome come out of this.

Props to +Eric Hameleers for putting the pieces together, +Eric Koegel for working on the ConsoleKit2 parts and +Martin Gräßlin and all the other KDE devs involved for their integration work and patience with us through all those years!

Plasma5 Wayland works on Slackware

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Святослав Тимофеев: In 5.11 on my Antergos (ArchLinux) I have interesting problem with plasma-wayland-session:

Everything looks like it works fine, BUT when mouse cursor touching any window border -- session crashing.

Maybe it:
1) some error in window-resizing behavior,
2) Problem in wayland's cursor-drawing mechanism,
3) mistake in BreezeTheme

I using Open radeonsi drivers with native Mesa OpenGL (nothing proprietary)

Radeon HD7870

!!!
5.10.5 Was without this bug.

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Just installed QtWayland 5.9.2 manually as my distro still doesn't have it. I'm very pleased, works much better. Many annoying issues fixed. Good job +Qt. A really important step towards Plasma/Wayland by default.

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Alex L.: Where is the discussion? For me Activities and Virtual Desktops are totally different things. Virtual Desktops are just a way to arrange windows and Activities are different environments with different settings for different tasks.

Alex L.: Ah maybe I misunderstood, they are going to be merged as code but from the user perspective they will work as always, right?

Martin Gräßlin: +Alex L. no, it would not work as always.

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Just run the first KWin window rule on a Wayland window ever.

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Andreas Jellinghaus: +Martin Gräßlin thanks for the details, sounds great. I mostly need a browser and a terminal, so I guess that should work.

KDEOK: +Martin Gräßlin I know that you don't need screen recording, however it is really sad that you purposefully ignore review requests of people who want to work on it.

https://phabricator.kde.org/D1231

And I am not the only one who is wondering about your reasons.

https://phabricator.kde.org/D1231#140330

Martin Gräßlin: +KDEOK please don't assume bad intentions. I do not purposefully ignore review requests.

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