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Talk about gutted! 
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I have no idea Mark and yes i am scared because i live in the North of England.
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Hi All

Anybody out there an exchange guru?

We currently run exchange 2010 with 5 accepted domains on it.  All the users are in the same active directory forest and we use rules to say who gets what domain email address.

We are in the process of moving our email out of of exchange and moving to Google Apps.  To do this we are moving some at a time I.E one exchange domain. so we have a.co.uk, b.co.uk, c.co.uk d.co.uk and e.co.uk in exchange but we are only moving e.co.uk at this time.  On the side of caution we don't want to disconnect mailboxes from the affected users until we are sure everything is working properly and fully synced.

Obviously as far as external is concerned when we point the MX records to google mail will go there.  Internal though for a short time the moved users will still be in exchange.  Is there any way I can tell exchange to deliver all internal email for e.co.uk to deliver to google instead of keeping it as it does just now?  Preferably without using auto forward and an alias domain.

On top of that or rather instead of which part tells exchange it has the mailboxes and to accept the mail?  Is it the fact it has them or is it the accepted domain connector?  All the users have two email addresses the primary domain address which is also their AD logon and their own company domain for primary email address.  If I delete the accepted domain connector e.co.uk would exchange then look at the MX records for e.co.uk and deliver it to the ouside?  If this is the case would the e.co.uk be removed from their accounts or would it remain untill their mailbox was eventually disconnected?  The second part being if it is removed then their email address in global directory would change so mail would still be delivered internally.

Clear as mud I bet!

Thanks in advance
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There are a few different ways that you can go about this, but I think that the following is the easiest (though not necessarily the least work). The primary advantage is that this gives you plenty of time to migrate the e-mail and you can do the entire company (or domain) at a time or one mailbox at a time at your own pace.

-Create your Google Apps users and groups. Be sure to change the group access level if necessary. I recommend using the Directory Sync tool, but the last time that I used it, which was a while ago, it didn't set the access level on the groups to match the settings in Exchange.
-Change e.co.uk from an authoritative domain to an internal relay domain in Exchange. 
-Disable the AddressBookEnabled setting for the internal relay domain. See http://exchangeserverpro.com/exchange-internal-relay-ndr-550/ -Create a send connector for e.co.uk and set the smarthost to aspmx.l.google.com.
-Enable the test domain for Google Apps (e.co.uk.test-google-a.com).
-Create mail contacts for all users on e.co.uk pointing to the corresponding Google Apps test e-mail address for that user.
-Setup forwarding for all users.
*At this point, new e-mail is going to both sets of mailboxes*
-Migrate the mailboxes.

While this makes for a pretty smooth transition, there are a few things to keep in mind and you might want to modify the process depending on the timing of the migration.
-Contacts and calendars shouldn't be migrated more than once or else you'll end up with duplicates. I migrate these last as a separate step if doing bulk migrations to avoid a window where changes to contacts were made during the migration.
-If a user moves a message after the initial migration pass, the change won't be reflected even after the next synchronization cycle.
-If you're only going to migrate a few mailboxes at a time, I wouldn't start forwarding messages until you're closer to the migration date for that particular mailbox.
-Instead of forwarding, you could also delete any e-mail addresses for e.co.uk. However, you could run into issues where Outlook is still using the X.400 address. If you don't have any X.400 addresses, then this is a viable alternative. You could also delete the X.400 addresses and deal with any bounces that might result. For users who already have some kind of forwarding setup that needs to remain, your only choice is to modify the forwarding configuration.

Some additional tips:
-You should audit the forwarding settings just so that you're aware of any complicated forwarding setups before it's time to migrate. You'll want to plan for how it affects the migrated mailbox and forwarding on the Google Apps side.
-Google Apps Sync for Microsoft Outlook is terrible, especially for large mailboxes. I hope that you're planning on migrating to web-only or that user expectations have been properly addressed.
-New mailboxes that need to be created during the migration period just need Google Apps accounts. Don't create the Exchange mailbox and e-mail will just flow from Exchange without the need to create a contact.
-Mailboxes that don't need data migrated can just be disabled (detached) without creating a contact.
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The Defence Secretary says the ships will be constructed on the Clyde, after fears were raised over the contract going abroad.
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+Mark McKinlay Never the twain shall meet...as we have memories of elephants!!!! ;-D
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Some facts to put the figures into perspective. 
Stephen Daisley tries to get his head around the SNP's ever-expanding membership rolls.
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I am not sure if this is genius or insanity but I like it.
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What a load of Bull!  Blackberry is going down the tubes not because of its encryption but because of its rubbish OS and even more rubbish handsets.
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We still use BES although it's probably gone next year.
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And now for something a bit different!
Like him or loath him, this is outstanding! Gaun yersel, Salmond! :)
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He's a class act :)
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Had a great run up to Fort William on the GSA yesterday and an even better run down this morning. This was the view I got this morning before leaving.
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The Smith Commission is set to recommend extending Holyrood's control over taxation and benefits and voting for 16-year-olds.
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Not good enough. As usual Wastmonster has come up with a poison chalice.
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Does this actually surprise anybody?
 
This: And this: And of course this: And then, with crushing inevitability, this: All on you, No voters. YOU go to Govan and explain it to them.
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+hamish mcbeth Any french built ship will have one forward gear and five reverse. and switch sides at the drop of a hat 
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surprised this took so long to be honest.
Some Labour MPs have told the chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party that leader Ed Miliband should stand down, the BBC understands.
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+Hez L moment on the lips Lifetime on the hips lol 
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  • Easter Electic Service
    Electrical Engineer, 1984 - 1995
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General geek and have been working in IT for about 8 years now.  Mostly responsible for servers and network stuff.  I am a real gadget nut as well so like my toys.  
Always been into motorcycles since even before I was old enough to drive them on the road.  Have been using my current one the last couple of years for my main summer holiday and have been to the farthest north of Scotland to the south coast of England with a visit to Wales in between.
Music wise I will listen to anything just about but prefer rock.  There is nothing like a bit of AC/DC
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Haven't gone completely mad yet
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    1979 - 1983
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