is a very fast worker. He's already penned a Google+ for Business book which you can order on Amazon. (Publication is expected in November) A mere 225 pages submitted for a seven-week old social network. That's a rate of 4-5 pages a day.
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- Just to clarify what I meant by the word "Hater," which is not to be confused with the biblical word "hate." From the Urban Dictionary:
"A person that simply cannot be happy for another person's success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.
Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesnt really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse down a notch."
I'm all for criticism, and eventually this thread DID include what I would call reasoned and constructive criticism, but I stand by my statement that the first 10 - 15 or so comments I came across appear more like the urban definition of "hate."Aug 17, 2011
- http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hater) However, I agree with the second definition which says it's an "*Overused* word that people like to use just because someone else expresses a dislike for a certain individual." In this case, it wasn't the individual but an idea behind a book, but you get the idea.I went to the same webpage (
Urban Dictionary is a bunch of slang terms generally used by kids or young adults. I'll admit that I use them as well. But I commented earlier based on the words you wrote, which didn't sound very Slang-ish. You said... "I just can't believe the ridiculous hate in this thread. It IS still a free speech country, right? And NO ONE will be forced to buy the book, right?And lots of people are very curious about G+ Right? What the hell?"
One of the things I LOVE about Google+ is that it allows adults to have genuine conversations or in this case debates over various topics. You're welcome to your opinion, in fact, we all are. Sorry, but I don't believe the whole "Urban Dictionary" thing in your last reply, but this thread now has 75 comments, maybe I missed something?Aug 17, 2011
- WellI guess what you are saying is that I went back and redefined my argument, which, again, if you knew me personally you would know is preposterous.
Secondly, if you went back to my INITIAL comment where I used the word "Hater" you would see that I didn't mean it in the biblical sense of hate:
"WOW, what a bunch of Haters. Hey, I don't think Chris is perfect, but Jesus, if you don't want to read the book DON'T BUY THE BOOK. Seriously."
Thridly, I don't think "Urban" language is only used by kids. I grew up in a very urban culture and I have many adult friends who use the term "hate" and "haters" regularly in the same way I did.Aug 17, 2011
- My two cents...
You know... outside of the social media bubble most of you live in, most people are HIGHLY skeptical of self proclaimed "social media experts". As an industry and out of respect for your own work, most of you should do less cheerleading for each other and demonstrate a little more scrutiny of your peers.
I don't know Chris Brogan and I don't hate him. For all I care, his name could be Bob Smith. It makes no logical sense for anyone to hold webinars and write books about business uses for Google+ while it's in beta and while specific business applications for G+ have been mentioned but haven't been released yet. For this reason, it looks like Chris is preying on the ignorance of others who don't realize that he can't possibly have any unique value on this subject at this point in time. If you value your work in social media and consider yourself someone who is credible and tries to add real value to your clients, you have to call out this blatant exploitation. I'm not against anyone making a living evangelizing social media and it's not about hating.
As a real business user of social media (note: I'm not a "social media expert") there is no way I would trust anyone claiming to have some unique insight on business applications of G+ at this point in time.Aug 17, 2011
- I hear you about the social media bubble; I spend my days working with real small business owners trying to market their businesses more effectively.
The only issue I take with you comment is this: It IS likely that could have 'inside knowledge' of what G+ will do for Brands.Aug 17, 2011
- I look forward to seeing it on bittorrent.Aug 18, 2011