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Thanks guys. Sorry about the hard-ass rules in my previous posting to try to encourage some kind of voting on the comments, but it seems to kind of have worked. I say "kind of" because it ended up a bit messy regardless, but on the whole there was a pretty clear show of hands for Synology.

So here goes nothing. For the kind of use I have in mind, the most promising model seems to be the DS 411slim. I'll start out with just two drives, but having the option to add another two seemed like a nice bonus. Sure, I'm limiting myself to 2.5" drives, but I did want small.

So I have it ordered. I'll see how this kind of "let's trust the collective wisdom of G+" actually ends up. I hope I won't end up having to hunt you all down and kill you in your sleep.
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Getting personally hunted down and killed by Linus would be an honor, I think.
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As long as you deploy the horse’s-head-in-bed first to serve as fair warning.
 
I get a feel for what you are getting this for. I'm just getting one of those i5 Chromeboxes, croutoning it, and putting sabnzbd on the ubuntu side. Call me lazy, but I really like Chrome OS now. The Pixel has ruined me.
 
Reassuring words from the man who controls your kernel :-) 
 
You won't go wrong with Synology. Firmware updates are painless and it consistently tests as one of the fastest NAS enclosures
 
Good luck +Linus Torvalds !

If you don't end up liking it don't be afraid to give FreeNAS a shot too. ;)
 
Linuse, brate, +Mladen Stevic se vec duze vreme jebe sa Synology-em ukoliko budes imao problema ili nekih pitanja slobodno ga kontaktiraj.
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Given less than 1/10th of respondents followed the rules, methinks you've got some hunting to do regardless.
 
+Benjamin Selinger: if I had to hunt down and kill everybody who posted odd and nonsensical comments on my G+ posts, I'd end up like some kind of modern-day Genghis Khan.
 
Geez i feel like i have walked onto the battle field a week late, i missed the post that started this :P
 
So much easier to insert code in the kernel that looks for our g+ id floating by and just wipes out /dev/sda...
 
+Linus Torvalds Little known fact about Genghis. He was a very prolific um, procreator. 40 percent of us have his genetic code in some amount. 
 
And given the ratio of relevant comments so far, after you are done there will be very few people left, Genghis Khan. :)
 
”So I have it ordered. I'll see how this kind of "let's trust the collective wisdom of G+" actually ends up.“

LoL, couldn't trust any others' feelings until you feel it by yourself...  :) but hope you love  it. 
 
+Robert Collins Ok, it looks like I overstated things a little. A recent study was done to look at the Y chromosomes of 2,123 men across Asia. An astonishing 1 in 12 men shared the same Y chromosome. If this ratio holds up, that would mean 16 million males or 1 out of every 200 living males share his Y chromosome.
 
That would be a crushing amount of child support in this day and age.
 
I've had the 411 slim for 2 years now and really love it.  Their software stack is really done well.  I recommend it to anyone asking me about NAS
 
Bought a Drobo, very slow. Exchanged for a Synology DS1151+, very fast and a far more features, fantastic UI. 
 
Hahahaha killed in sleep, glad I didn't comment on the last one :)
 
Storage is kind of important. As in, you don't want unreliable crap even at home, just because you have some preference for small and silent. I hope things work out, but you really should have invested a few minutes and assembled something yourself. File-system-wise, using anything except ZFS for storage is kind of silly in this day and age.

The reason for that is something I myself experienced - I put together a system for home some years back built on OpenSolaris (which is now OpenIndiana / Illumos) and due to pure laziness lost the entire boot mirror after I was too slow to replace the first drive that failed. For some reason, I had a drive in the RaidZ array (the equivalent of Raid5, basically) that had just gone bad too. So out of five drives total in the machine, three died. 

I lost no actual stored data. I reinstalled the OS onto a new single hard drive and spent literally a few minutes setting up one user account with the same UID I had used before, then did a "zpool import -f storage" and had my storage pool back and mounted in exactly the same places it had been mounted on the previous install. The only thing remaining to do was to replace the faulted drive in the storage pool array and let it resilver. And all the data on ZFS is checksummed so I know for a fact that every bit of it is intact.

Sure, if I had lost two drives in the RaidZ array I would have been toast, but the sheer ease of recovery even after losing the entire system drive is staggering compared to other file systems.

I'm as fond of Linux as the next guy, but nothing in the world beats a storage system based on OpenIndiana (or for that matter, Solaris, if you're willing to pay) and ZFS for reliability and feature set. You can use that to assemble anything from a near-silent home system built around a Fractal Design Node 304 case and a 6-sata-port SuperMicro Mini-ITX motherboard with IPMI for a few hundred bucks total to something like the multi-petabyte system that Korea Telecom runs on Nexentastor.
 
I did not see the question so no vote from here. I do have two DS211s, and their ui is very nice. I have encrypted partitions no choice but ecryptfs which appears inelegant to me compared to luks, but there may be good reason. Their feature with DS to DS synchronization (for an off site copy) never worked without error, so I have had to resort to shell and rsync. Not good enough IMO, but I know that real men just upload to ftp and let the rest of the world mirror it.
A further nuisance is that their music and especially photo servers do not work off encrypted partitions, which forces me to comprise on security (should a thief have access to all you photos?).

Perhaps good thing will happen now. ;-)
 
+Scott Wilson You know how all the US Presidents share a common ancestor (for reals)? Not so strange. For each generation we track a person's lineage backwards, the number of ancestors increase by a power of 2, meanwhile, the world population, as we track backwards just keeps shrinking.
So, the two graphs will tend to overlap 100% if we go back far enough.
Obviously, there are regional variances, but it's enough of an effect to ensure that most people are related to some major historical figure of the middle ages or other.
 
Synology is great indeed. My only issue (though I havent checked if they fixed that recently) was that they did something odd with rsync, making it incapable of overwriting a file that doesn't have write permission, so it sucks for sync'ing repos or backups. I didn't take the time to investigate in depth (and they do provide compilers so I could always build a "working" rsync binary if necessary).
 
Here I was, convinced already, that +Linus Torvalds was Genghis Kahn reincarnated. We now have proof! A coming out moment on G+...
 
Don't sweat the 2.5" drives. I've see a few new data center installs using 2.5" drives.  They save a lot of space so I guess the MTBF must be way up!  I do like how Synology handles drive upgrades.  Much superior to an ordinary RAID configuration.  
 
+Kimmo Jaskari I have a similar thing going on - except using the zfs4linux project - inside a HP MicroServer N40L. Took me an hour to set up (mainly Ubuntu's blasted installer) and then bam, raidz deliciousness :)
 
I had a QNAP 2.5" system and "normal" drives and after less than 3 years two drives failed at the same time. So it was goodbye for my RAID 5. It is very difficult to find RAID rated 2.5" drives that are also big and suitable slim.
 
Why do you even need a NAS? Isn't it well known since back in last millennium that you merely need to upload your stuff and people back it up for you?
 
My Synology DS 211j (i believe) is one of the absolute best purchases i've ever done.
 
My NAS is google drive now. Because I have great bandwidth. And I've learned that if I change my MAC address on my modem and force reprovisioning, I can get around the soft limit on bandwidth because it starts over. 
 
I'm just curious - why not roll your own NAS? It's much cheaper, you know how it's set up and you can have one that uses at least half the energy (from my experience). Of course it depends of how many exotic features you need, but most basic features are right there with a LAMP install of Ubuntu server...
 
I felt there was an element of killing in ones sleep as a result of a probable error, so I said nothing. Also, I don't know crap so that is the biggest reason I said nothing. However, not being killed while I slumber will remain my official reason.
 
+Charlie Wolcott Looks very promising - maybe I should have a look at it. Currently my NAS server is running and old release of Ubuntu and everything is set up manually - mostly because I need a lot of different features, which I'm not sure the OpenMediaVault is suited for, but who knows? :o)
 
I just hope we get your feedback once you receive it.
 
It's ok, Linus, I would expect such rules after all the missinformed comments you got on your Pixel post, with people talking about 1080p displays like they were such a big deal.
 
+Linus Torvalds will you now ask the community what disks are most reliable? Or do you have them in kind? (running ds209+2 with some Samsung disks in mirror mode myself, painlessly since, well 09).
 
"I hope I won't end up having to hunt you all down and kill you in your sleep." ~Linus Torvalds
That's one to add to the quotes collection xD
 
Western Digital Red drives. They're expressly designed to work in NAS setups - they don't do that stupid head parking out of control error recovery that green drives can do. They're also energy frugal and quiet. http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=810 Though wait, they're only available in the far more sensible 3.5 inch form factor. Bummer.
 
For disks for my Synology DS413j I went with two different manufacturers; this always freaks out salespeople, who want to get you using paired disks for maximum performance; but every disk manufacturer has "issues" periodically and at any given time, one brand will have a major disk out that turns out to be a lemon.  Two different makes of disk, choosing manufacturers so that it's not the same line of disk rebadged, gets you different failure times and increases the chances of being able to rebuild a RAID array before another disk fails.  So, 2x WD disks and 2x ST disks.
 
Currently planning on buying a NAS myself. May I ask what made you chose the DS411slim over the DS413J ?
 
G+: Threaded comments would have been A LOT less painful to go through in Linus's original post. We are well into the twenty-first century by now.
 
One requirement you forgot. Many raid drives just spin the drives forever, wearing the disk unnecessarily. Not sure if that one will eventually idle the disks properly.

On the other hand, I'd be honored to have you kill me in my sleep :P
 
+Linus Torvalds well just to warn you - I have one nasty chihuahua as a watch dog and my wife is real psycho... so be my guest...
 
don't bother finding me in my sleep, I already have dreams of you I am a homo but, no homo...
 
Just remember you can setup iSCSI on the synology and then use your own distributions file system on it to avoid hassles. DS411 user at work under iSCSI, though we made sure the drives were on the approved list, I hope you did that at least.

 
Fair choice, the great thing about Synology is the DSM. Well built easy to use and the same across all devices. I have 2 Synology NAS systems. The DS710+ and the DS211J. I bought the smaller one first only to realize that I love the concept and need a bigger one with more possibilities which then made me buy the DS710+. Have fun and enjoy. Oh, head up notice you need to get the latest firmware first and the Synology Assistant to find and install it not sure if that was mentioned anywhere. The Synology site can be slow at times so be patient.
 
i'll hunt you back if you kill me in ma sleep. hahaha
 
The software on a Synology NAS sets it apart if you ask me. I use mine for way more than i expected to when i bought it.
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Synology DSM really rox, it will change your idea of ​​having something you can ignore and dont worry about
 
I'm glad that Synology "won". I have one too :) I did like the format since it forced us to read the comments and vote for the ones that supported our choice, instead of going me too.

Also, it is really good to see a Linux based product win, even though we were not restricted to Linux based solutions. Maybe Synology will add a git server package to make it easier to turn these into git servers now :)
 
But you all sleep with one eye open anyway, don't you... :-) 
 
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Are you planning to go with SSDs or HDDs. I'm also looking for a backup solution that I could settle on. Cloud is too slow for my upstream (although it would be really nice from sharing perspective), I'm also a little bit concerned of backup speeds with WLAN. Direct ethernet could be good enough, but that is a hassle. Firewire, USB3, eSata don't support backing up multiple devices over the air. Has anyone experience with DS213air (using both WLAN and USB3)?
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I, for one, cannot wait for the review.
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IMHO...write english or finnish...maybe swedis....please. No one understand you...(suomi rullaa!) "来个中文评论 怎么样"  cheers :)
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Definitely interested in hearing your opinion on the DS411slim. That's the exact model I settled on (after several recommendations for Synology). Haven't quite gotten around to buying it yet.
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Mikko Ahlroth hunted down would be fine - would rather avoid the second step though...
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I can see the git commit:  "This patch, upon detection of a Synology DS 411slim, melts down the CPU of all of the idiots who recommended the piece of trash to me."
 
I've been using a 411 slim for a few years. It's survived a tour in Afghanistan as a media server for the troops, and a few years working as a media server/backup server in my house since. I use the onboard rsync for my *nix boxes, and just map a share for my windows machine. Been bulletproof so far, and very flexible as to what it can do via the web interface. Love mine.
 
Is this Linus guy a Microsoft engineer or something?
 
I have 1812+ and I love it. Can upgrade both disks and OS and memory. And it has been rock solid so you will not be dissapointed :)
 
Counting down the hours until the Synology hits the wall at speed! ;-P
No, I do hear they are good (if a tad non-free)
 
Buffalo link station duo pro. GPL Linux friendly product from japan. :]
 
I have a 213air which is a rather slick product.  Works fine as a target for Time Machine backups from Mountain Lion, which is key since my wife is an Apple girl.
 
Would appreciate if you give a small review of this NAS, After reading about it i might change my 400w+ FreeNAS Machine to something like this
 
Love Synology. The only thing that in my opinion needs some improvements is the indexing process. Sometimes it just kicks in and use 100% of the cpu making the NAS completely unresponsive in the process. Of course, you can always log in ssh and kill the process manually, but this is a pain in the a.. 

And make sure to use their Windows tool (don't know if there's a linux version) when uploading a big batch of pictures. Otherwise, your box will spend the next 3 months indexing. See : http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=65804
 
Just upgraded from a 209 to a 413. You'll appreciate the expandability  as you mentioned. That was the only reason I regretted the 209 model. 

If you decide to move to a different model, (a full size one, or more bays), the procedure to migrate is actually pretty simple. I do recommend using their SHR RAID, as its the most flexible.
 
I prefer to just by a small micro server (HP microserver). Then you can just install CentOS 6, and use NFS. I have total flexibility, rather than being limited by Synology. And it's much, much cheaper.
 
Bought a Synology DS1511+ a couple of years ago. Awesome NAS. Dual ethernet, realiable, fast and great UI. Tons of configuration options, protocols and cloud backups. I think you will be happy with your purchase. 
 
<--- adds to resume "killed in sleep by Linus Torvalds"
 
If you gotta go, might as well go that way, though...
 
Hey Linus, I have this exact same NAS, it's not bad at all and you can do a whole hell of a lot with it. My only gripe with it is the web UI can be a tiny bit buggy.
 
Good choice. Synology just rox.
 
I actually just bought an 1812+ this week. So far, really slick, easy to get access to the CLI (its running 3.2.30), some "add on" functionality via a limited app store like function etc.

Plays 1080p streams via NFS no issue,  iSCSI is pretty fast as well. I would generally say that you'll probably want to go into the CLI and turn off all the indexing and such if your looking to do a lot with it beyond basic functions though, as all those services suck up CPU and memory like mad.
 
We use the ds1010+ as a secondary backup system. It works flawlesly and it's fast and reliable. Using DSM 4.2 firmware
 
We use the ds1010+ as a secondary backup system. It works flawlesly and it's fast and reliable. Using DSM 4.2 firmware
 
you dont have to hunt us down Linus.... you simply have to push a bad kernel update. thats basically as effective...
 
I ordered the Synology DS212J, it hasn't arrived yet, but the specs on it are pretty good, and it has all of the features I need.
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The reason I follow you +Linus Torvalds is that you happen to have the same needs as me at the same time :-) First it was the Wifi access point, now it's the nas. It's like tapping into a hive mind. 
 
Be warned Linus, much like RMS, I sleep with a katana...
 
Ohai Linus, compiling kernel 3.8.5 atm
 
We have a strong tradition of anti-elitism on the west coast, in the computer industry and the pacific northwest most of all. If someone wants to make their life here with us long term it would be wise to at least pretend to honor this tradition :)

Personally I roll my own NAS's because they are easier to maintain long term.
 
Ds412+ here. My fifth syno unit. Love them! Good choice. I'd love w review of the slim version though.
 
+David Washington me too! I run a debian live distro off of a flash card or USB stick so that 1) the OS isn't on the data disks, so less risk of corruption since the data disks are less-used and 2) the OS all runs from a RAM disk, so no risk of corrupting the flash drive unless there's a failure during (manually-triggered) system image updates.
 
what did Linus choose for his wifi? I am in the market to replace my years old ones.
 
+Dave Botsch I ended up with the Asus rt-n66u. It seems fine, although I have no claims that it would be better than the other things people suggested..
 
+Linus Torvalds Please let us know how you like it... Have been on the fence between the ASUS and the Netgear R6300...
 
I use a ds211j and its great. Love the attention to detail.
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+Linus Torvalds I ended up going with an Ubiquiti unifi for an access point. Don't know how it compares to the competition but I can tell you that it beats the pants off my old airport express :-) 
 
+Scott Wilson if you consider our cellphones as an extension of ourselves, then we are probably getting close to 40% of us having some Linus in us too... 
 
The Synology 411 series is fantastic. You won't be disappointed. 
 
Must share this with the tabloids -

** TORVALDS THREATENS ALL G+ FOLLOWERS **
Says he will "hunt you all down and kill you in your sleep"

:-)
 
+George Duff He also said something about impregnating tens of thousands of people I believe. 
 
+Charlie Wolcott I run OpenMedia Vault as a kvm virtual machine.  It runs very well and allows me to avoid yet another extra box.  I use its rsync function to push all its data to a slow WD MyBook World as a secondary backup.  I've been temped to add a module to push data to Amazon or Google as an off site back up too.
 
Linud...my daughter is grad'ing from fucking Princeton with a fuckig Shosiphy degreee....fuck u actuallu u irr religous mf :D
Im drunk...cant type...Linus is actually shit........he's a logic computer shit...........hardware......go boy go!   daughters....u....wil.....know...fuck this Linis my intelprevipus employer shit.........transmetat a milliom years ago remember when you tried.......yes sir......Shina...Finland is too close to Russia.........dont even know what you talking about actually  ,,,,,,,   wo ai my wife mo fo due that used to be transmeta now intel andI am totally out of your fucking world ass ;;;happy daughter grads Princeton ,,,,your daugheters....will never know this ass......ou bugging me LATELY......NEVER MIND MY VIRTUAL LINUX MACHINE DONT WORK AND IT WONT  ANDTHE WINDOW THING IT WILL BE...ASS...YOU TRIE DTOO MAKE ADESTOP...YOU Made a server that you cant shake microsoft....i know this bullshit...u are NOTthat goood...jus so u know ass....uhhhh yeah Im drunk asshole.....my daughter is a PRinceton Grad......you are not...I know thiws....some of us do.........we know what u are....
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Greg just hasn't been the same since SCO went out of business.
 
+Carl Menezes: I really wanted to try the Unify thing, but none of my ethernet drops are in the ceiling (nor do I have easy access to convert them to such), nor do I have a PoE setup.

Does it actually do AP-side seamless roaming well? Because quite frankly, between all the random mobile wireless clients we have, client-side AP switch-over just isn't very good.  If the Unify system actually means that the clients can't screw up roaming from one AP to another (most of our cellphones seem to stay on an old AP much too long), maybe I should give it another go.
 
Good choice.  I have been using DS211j for the last 18 months in a mirrored configuration in highly unreliable power conditions.  No problems so far and it just works from the corner of my basement.  
 
I have a Synology 211j and the software is excellent, support is excellent and so far I haven't experienced a single problem with it. It was very easy to setup and the GUI is very simple to use too.
 
You're in good hands - only one mention of the worst possible solution (Netgear.)
 
Is it true that you were bitten by a penguin?
 
+Stan Alam He was bitten by a radioactive penguin and now has the power of TWO PENGUINS!
 
I was completely blown away today by the Synology ds211j.

This afternoon I needed to get 2TB of data from our servers at the datacenter. While looking for an external harddrive to bring with me a colleague pointed out there was an unused  Synology ds211j that had 2TB of storage sitting in the back. I found the device, labeled with it's ip, username and password. And without honestly knowing **anything** else about I connected an ethernet cable from my laptop to the the ds211j.

I manually set my ip, pinged the ds211j, and then did what any self respecting sysadmin would do, I portscanned it. 

I opened a browser, typed it's ip into the url, then my brain exploded.

Management is all done though a vnc java apt hosted on port 80. It looks like it is essentially a debian/ubuntu variant with a window manger similar to unity. It's MAGICAL. 

Everything you would want in a storage box is there, done. By far the best storage device I have ever come across. I am seriously impressed. 
 
+Thomas Hoff The Synology UI is largely implemented in Javascript over the top of GWT and GWT Ex. So it's HTML, CSS and JS powering that desktop :) There is some small bits of Java in the filemanager app so it can see your local drives and do file copies but the rest is running in the browser. It looks awesome and is easily one of the best remote UIs bar none.
 
+Linus Torvalds Any quick review about Synology ds211j? I'm considering buying one in the near future. TIA
 
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