Really, the goal was just 200, and all you got was 128? Jeez, I am not sure what disappoints me more, the impudently low goal, or that they didn't even reach that! Did I lose my controversy mojo?
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- So you know what the majority of Linux users and administrators think? Awesome achievement!! Are you going to FOSDEM and can I touch you? If no, can I stand near to you and take a sneak picture? Stop making me laugh :PDec 26, 2011
- Ah, the slashdot crowd found this thread!, lemme guess you never ever had any look at systemd or its documentation, have you? Because if you had, you'd know that systemd is much better documented than most projects (probably even one of the best documented projects in free software, especially considering how new it is), and you may criticise it for whatever you want, but if you criticise it regarding its documentation you just make it obvious you never had a look. I mean, it's completely fine if folks make the educated choice not to like systemd, but what you are doing is just uneducated FUDing based on assumptions, guesses, and hearsay. I am not sure why you feel the need to contribute that to the discussion, it is just annoying noise and not useful at all. And , listen, I go to a multitude of conferences each year, and talk to people and like to believe to have a good idea what is needed and what people want. I don't think you ever did that (because if you did, I would have met you at one of those occasions, and I didn't and don't know who you are). Now, even though I like to believe that I did my homework I'd still be foolhardy to claim I really knew what the majority of Linux users and administrators believes. But hey, one thing I do know is that you know it even less than I do because I spend considerable time trying to figure it out and you don't, and I hence humbly ask you to stop spreading your nonsense. And anyway, what you and your friends who put together the petition completely misunderstood is how projects get their relevance in Free Software. Because it isn't me who mandates that everybody does what I think is right, it is the distributions who sometimes choose to adopt my ideas, and sometimes don't. I just write code, and propose it. It is technical committees such as Fedora's FESCO who then decide to adopt it -- or not, and I have never been a member of any such committee. If you want to ensure that my ideas don't succeed then you should influence those committees, where the decisions are made, and not me, who just proposes them. Petition the distributions, don't petition me. Finally, if I write something and dump it on the Internet and some random distribution adopts it, then that's entirely and exclusively their decision, and believe me, with the exception of Fedora I personally have not actively proposed systemd or PA or Avahi in any way to any other distribution. Many distros apparently liked what they saw and took it, but you can't blame me for that (I can't control what they do with my code, and that's a core idea of Free Software!). Also note that there are distributions who actively decided not to adopt any of these projects, for example Slackware. I invite you to participate in their community. They are also GNOME-free, which probably makes them particularly interesting to all those folks who detest systemd, GNOME and all the other newer technology coming from the pro-progress camp of the Free Software world. You know, I obviously don't share your refusenik positions, but I am fine if people think like this, but what I don't get is why they believe that they can reverse the development by petitioning me, instead of the ones who actually make the decisions. And now, please leave my Google+ account alone. Please don't post here anymore, because what I write here is not intended for refuseniks. Thank you very much!Dec 26, 2011
- can we please use paragraphs?Dec 26, 2011
- F*ck those people. I think the idea (of both systemd and journald) is great.
I don't care wether the tool to read my binary logs is tail, less or journalctl. After all there's no such thing as plaintext.
Stuff that needs to die (in it's current form) is SysV, cron and syslog. Looking forward to when the Debian people see that the default should be changed...(and yes I'm too lazy now to argue why I have this opinion)Jan 2, 2012
- And what to do if your userspace is dead and the only thing u can do is to access file system somehow? How to read a journal in this case?Oct 19, 2012
- Hee hee - was looking into systemd (it being upcoming in rhel 7 presumably), and people were bitching about "who wrote it". Dug deeper, it was "that pulseaudio guy".
Well hell - pulseaudio was the first time I actually got WoW and my web browser to not fight over sound and work at the same time. Thank you for that, by the way. Most of the issues I've had with it were mostly people fighting against adopting it (looking at wine here) as opposed to an actual software issue.
So now I've got to dig into and use it, just to piss off the whiners. Score one for systemd. :-)
PS. Binary logs make me sad, but that's mainly because my old work had some really poorly implemented binary logs. The level of sin here is roughly the same as "impure thoughts". So long as we're moving forward, on the whole I'm for it.Jan 31, 2013