What I find really funny about the Gentoo udev fork, that they themselves have no idea why they are forking at all.
"If we were using the waterfall model, I could outline some very nice long term goals for you, but we are doing AGILE development, so long term goals have not been well defined."
This is just fantastic. Using "agile" as an excuse for having no clue.
What a troupe of clowns...
"If we were using the waterfall model, I could outline some very nice long term goals for you, but we are doing AGILE development, so long term goals have not been well defined."
This is just fantastic. Using "agile" as an excuse for having no clue.
What a troupe of clowns...
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+Steven Cristian what are you trying to win, clown-attraction contest ?Nov 20, 2012
Lennart, thanks for your systemd: http://i.imgur.com/hrep4.png
I find this picture very funny, especially this "See 'systemctl ..." recommendation.
(It is stock archlinux install .iso, btw).Nov 24, 2012
+Alexandr Kovalenko odd, stock arch works just fine for me with systemd, you should file a bug with arch about this, something must have gone wrong with the latest install .iso.Nov 24, 2012- To clarify. I'm the maintainer for sys-fs/udev which is unpatched udev built out from systemd source tree and that's the Gentoo's default.
So remember when talking about "Gentoo's udev", it does NOT mean the separate sys-fs/eudev project which isn't default nor going to be.
Nobody can stop developers from creating their own projects and maintaining ebuilds for them in the Portage tree, but that does NOT
make it anyway official.
It has not even been a topic to make sys-fs/eudev the default, and I have no plans on stopping maintenance of sys-fs/udev which is orig. udev from systemd tree, but I also hope systemd developers don't make my life any harder so I can keep on carrying patch free version.
Thanks for all the work!Feb 28, 2014 
+Samuli Suominen And thank your for maintaining udev!
Gentoo really embraces the concept of "rogue projects" or whatever you want to call them. Any dev is welcome to fork/compete/etc with anything in the tree and we really only do top-down policy when it is necessary due to avoidable blockage/etc. You can run Gentoo Prefix under OSX (or even windows), we have a bunch of minor arch ports, we have BSD, and we have multiple init/udev/etc options (including some who have made busybox mdev an option for simple systems). We don't favor any particular DE, X11 implementation, database, and so on. The default install doesn't even bundle a syslog or cron - you pick what you want.
Obviously with the vertical integration your ability to mix/match is going to be more limited with Gnome/etc these days. However, we support what we can when it makes sense. We don't prevent projects like Gnome from depending on systemd either.
So, when you hear about Gentoo doing this or that, it often means just one more option. There is some effort to make Gentoo work without openrc installed at all, and some interest in providing stage3s with systemd as a default. That said, I doubt openrc is going anywhere either. The vast majority of daemons in the tree now support both - certainly all the big-name projects do.
For those who want to run/maintain eudev, more power to them. Gentoo isn't really about finding the one true way of doing things. As long as somebody is willing to do the work, we try to support just about everything.Feb 28, 2014
+Lennart Poettering im the systemd zealot on the official gentoo wiki bringing more support & development to your system to gentoo. we are a shoot first ask questions later kinda community. if you tighten your system up, and add high quality process monitoring ill post more systemd specific init sections. you should give gentoo a whirl, fedora is a trashy dump in comparison.....Mar 10, 2014
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