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- Well, I actually did. And, I thought my questions were still valid--though, you were certainly under no obligation to answer them. And, if you research this topic a bit more--you'll see why. I guess I just don't understand why anyone would make such a remark to someone who found interest in something he/she took the time to post. I like Google+ a lot, but--honestly, all this "intelligent discussion" has given way to far too much over here.Apr 23, 2012
- It's just that the comments referenced the primary sources - the formal announcements by the dean, the formal announcement from the students and faculty -- and so on. That's about as foundational as you can get on a story like this. We even had someone from U of F who chimed in. Please understand, on long threads, having people asking the same questions again and again doesn't advance the discussion at all.Apr 23, 2012
- Had to chime back in from some of the responses with reference to the business decision made by UF. It is agreed that the college is in fact a business as well. I've lived in Florida most of my 43 yrs. The football and athletic programs are phenomenal and by this virtue will continue to grow. They are allocating 99 million dollars to the athletic program and the saving from cutting the Computer Science Program is going to yield about 1.7 million. Seriously 100 million dollars being allocated for the sports program, isn't that enough? To take away a vital part of Education in Computer Science is just not a good decision in my view.
Let's face some realities here, the athletic program is not going anywhere and in my opinion will continue to grow, yet there is only a small % of those athletes that will actually be able to make it in the pro's and produce an income from it. The Athlete's that do participate in college, have to have fields of study to fall back on if they don't produce an income from it. Those who do make it will also need additional skills once their careers as an athlete are done. With the way our society is advancing in computer technology, it is essential to provide education and fill the need in this field.
Let's also bring attention to another factor in this decision and that is the Legislative branch of government in the state of Florida. to take a quote from this article "the real villains here are the Florida state legislators, who have cut the budget for their flagship university by 30% over the past 6 years". People have a tendency to sit back and accept what the legislature decides in our lives. We're the one's that put them in office and we're the one's (the majority) that have the power to voice our desires and influence their decisions. I say let the Legislative branch know how you feel about any and all issues your passionate about. And let the University of Florida know as well, how you feel about this decision.Apr 23, 2012
- I would not worry too much about the education of the football players. The reality is that being an athlete at that level requires a great amount of effort, which results in a trade-off between athletic performance and education. For these people, they are really there to play ball, and the schools use them to generate wealth. The athletes deserve a portion of all the revenue generated. College sports that generate that kind of revenue have always been very dubious as to their credibility for promoting the education of their participants. There are some students though that are the exception.
The people that are handicapped by the decision are the rest of the students. You cannot run a top level research university without a computer science department. This greatly affects the marketability of the rest of the students' education. I would not hire them, if I was in the market for scientists and engineers, because I know that there would be better students to be found elsewhere. If the people that accredit and award various status marks for universities stepped aside from the politics of keeping their job, you would likely see the university lose much of it's accreditation. At that point, the computer science department will be back in full force in a heartbeat.Apr 23, 2012
- My question is, why not just have a Football University? Since the ball players are only there to play ball anyway, just keep them separate.Apr 23, 2012
- It's a great question. I bet the answer is that it is more profitable to run the program as a collegiate addition than to run a minor league football program. Almost everything is all about the money.
The head coaches salary alone suggests that it's all about competition to make money, with trickle down benefits for education.Apr 23, 2012