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About Truth in Photography
For my photo post yesterday, I received the usual "That's fake!" comments. Whenever you post something and label it HDR you will get these. Here is my take on this:

Some people think that an image that comes straight out of the camera represents the scene as it was in reality, and that any manipulation (especially HDR) alters this reality in unacceptable ways. The same people keep telling you that the original scene cannot possibly have looked like your image even though they never saw the scene.

I always tend to be very careful with terms like truth and reality. First, due to several technical restrictions, a photo is only a projection of reality no matter what you do and don’t do to it. If a scene has a high dynamic range, then a well-made HDR will be able to capture it more realistically than a single exposure as it lifts at least one of these restrictions. Second, each person perceives reality differently. What our brain creates is a projection too, and our memory constantly keeps changing this projection depending on our experiences, mood and situation.

So, in essence, everything we think of as being reality is only our subjective interpretation. Instead of insisting that someone else’s photo should depict reality as you see it, you should enjoy that person’s version of reality since it may offer you a different perspective and enrich your own world. That is what we generally call art.

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صورة مذهله بمعنى الكلمة
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I freaking love your HDR's. Honestly some of the best ones I've ever seen.

And I agree 100% with what you say. People just need to lighten up. ;)
 
+Mohammad Takallu "I wish this palace is mine" It's just a matter of saving enough money. But keep in mind that you will need a lot of personnel to keep it clean. ;-)

+Jeremy Davies "I agree 100% with what you say" Thanks for your support, Jeremy!
 
.. lovely!!! ...it looks like the palace where Belle and the Beast danced... ( in the cartoon film Beauty and the Beast )
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You make a great point there, +Klaus Herrmann. Even without going into the philosophical complexities of defining reality - what other means of cheating are there? Is changing the exposure compensation on your camera or a long exposure cheating? What about turning on the lights ? Even makeup on a model's face is a primitive form of manipulating what the final product will look like. Apparently none of these are considered cheating so the resultant image must be "original".

Most people tend to believe that the reality they see is the one true reality - and so people think something is fake when it's been manipulated in a medium that's outside of the environment of the picture. If people can be just a bit more broad-minded, we would better off by a lot.
 
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Thanks a lot, guys!

+Asti R Very good point, Asti! Every professional portrait is heavily manipulated, both before and after the shutter clicks. I can understand that some people have a problem with that, but many people draw the line quite arbitrarily.

My policy is to always be honest about what I did to an image. That is one reason why I publish the workflow for each and every image I produce and why I publish before-and-after comparisons.

+Vicky Paganini "it looks like the palace where Belle and the Beast danced" Yes, those two guys left right before I took the photo. ;-)
 
Awesome details.. love this !!
 
this place is so wonderfull !!!!!!!!!!!!
Nata m
 
Beautiful
 
Isn’t this in beauty and the beast?
 
Our eyes have a higher dynamic range than most cameras anyway, so an HDR image is closer to "reality" than a camera's interpretation anyway.
 
it very good and like it very much
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Truly capturing the moment! Stunning work, and great outlook.
Gracy A
 
very nice pic
 
Concisely and brilliantly put. I get so fed up with these people preaching SOOC is how it should be. I saw a recent video in which Trey Ratcliff kind of talked about the same thing and about he sees in color. I'm the same I see things in glorious color and my shots tend to reflect exactly how I remember the scene being to my eyes.

I believe that good photography is photographic art and I like your art... maybe in your case we could even expand it to say you are an exponent of 'the art and science of photography.'
 
great photo - nice balance of highlight and shadow with enough contrast, just as I would see it in reality!
 
I have about 2.6% photography experience, but I think it's beautiful. Well done!
 
Very well put +Klaus Herrmann !
Personally I think a photo still is a photo as long as you don't add or remove something "physical" from it.. Then it becomes either art or a creation.. changing light, enhancing sharpness and such isn't manipulating or creating a fake photo... to me.. :)
 
I like your comment on HDR - I think I will read it to my wife the next time I create an HDR of a place we both have seen. :-)

Great picture, indeed.
 
+Ben Lariviere "HDR image is closer to "reality" than a camera's interpretation anyway" In terms of tonality, that's exactly the point, Ben.

+Robat Samej "Stunning work, and great outlook." Thanks, Robat!

+scott masterton "I see things in glorious color and my shots tend to reflect exactly how I remember" Exactly, Scott! People simply see things differently, and they express themselves differently. To me, a photo from somebody else is like a window showing me how they see the world. Sometimes I like what they see, sometimes I don't. But I always find it fascinating to be able to look through the eyes of somebody else.

"you are an exponent of 'the art and science of photography.'" Wow! Thank you, Scott! I hope I can live up to that.
 
Your explanation has given me a different view on looking at photos. Thank you.
 
Wow...Superb Royal Palace...
 
AFTER READING UR TAKE ON "THATS FAKE" I WUD LIKE TO SAY

THATS FAKKKKEEE!!!!!!!! LOL
JUS KIDDIN
 
+Klaus Herrmann A lot of the HDRs that I see tend to have over-the-top, almost fairytale-like colours; and while that can be a beautiful image in and of itself, I tend to object to those being offered as representative photos of something.

What you present in this post, however, is absolutely stunning; and wherever I look at the picture, the colours are very lifelike - just like they would be when I look at the same point in the actual scene. Used in this way, I fully agree that HDR is a considerable improvement over regular photography, and truly manages to capture the magnificence of a scene.

Congratulations, good sir, you are a proper lightmonger indeed :-)
 
nice pic,well done...
 
it is soooooooo beautiful
 
Hey man...just wanted to say great photo and I agree with you 100%
 
interesting pictures, and location of the casual reply ..
so beautiful ..
 
very perfect internal design colors,lighting,flooring every things
 
its looking gr8..awesome.....
 
its verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy nnnnniiiiiiiiiccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
People also need to understand that the human eye can process around 10 "stops" worth of information at any one time. HDR is just another way to make scenes appear more to the way that we actually experience them.
 
Where is this place? It's nice. I hope it's not the Vatican.
 
Perfect shot,just ignore ignorance.
 
great pic +Klaus Herrmann , In reference to your article, the problem is that most who criticise HDR Photo's, may just be colour blind, and not quickly appreciate the picture for what it is. There are also other possibilities, but that's another story. In general, if they do not see the place where the picture was taken then what is the problem with them? Everybody has a different perspective, and that should be respected to the max. I have not problem with the picture, I think it's great
 
Wow! I've never seen anything so amazing! Where is this?
 
The first thing I thought about upon seeing this photo was, "Beauty & The Beast!"
 
Brilliantly retorted. It is all about perceptions.
 
wow!......................... awesome pic!
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Wow - da muß ich mal hin fahren.... Beeindruckend!
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So true. I'm getting more and more that I need to HDR to get things to look as they really looked to me - a normal photo would just look bland.

Take this picture for example: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0p45sleHqX4/T46BjuSc-rI/AAAAAAAAARw/QGYiqEXoF24/s1200/hei_bomen_zon_2_small.jpgIt's obviously an HDR merge (I'm a beginner, be gentle). IRL people have claimed it "shopped". But the color is how it really looked when the picture was taken; the single exposures used to make this HDR all look completely "wrong" to me.

I'm finding all this especially true this spring, the combination of it coming early, while we still have the cold-ish and clear air, and the sun still being relatively low, it just makes the colors pop more than other springs.

(Also: absolutely stunning picture!)
 
Well, It's a beautiful image, however it was obtained.
 
The detail of what you captured through your Len is breath taking,a very high standard,thank you for sharing.
 
The reality of a photograph is a manipulation of the photographers skill and the technology used, the result is an image that will differ in various ways depending on angle, lighting, atmospherics, movement and the lens structure etc. So a photo will be as much an interpretation as a painting and the right or wrong as to the use of enhancements is a mute point because the manipulation can be achieved as much by the photographers skill as by the Photoshop artist
 
Wonderful!( for hdr) Almost as good as a painting!
 
wow.................! superbbb..............
 
A few of my HDR pics have been met by a little skepticism. <shrug> HDR images are not what people are used to seeing, I suppose. Great shot, though. Well done!
 
Lovely image, the detail and post processing as a HDR looks spot on. Great work.
 
Really Nice use of the tone mapping algorithm, definately suits the scene
 
agree with your statment. wether one likes it or not. its dat simple. kudos
 
WOW WOW WOW ME LIKIT GEORGOUS HOW A WISH............
 
I can see the party about to begin. Great location for a king and queen to throw a party.
 
absolutely great work....
keep it going bro.....
never mind whoever said that it is fake....
its alive me.....
i can feel it...
 
Klaus, this is an awesomely beautiful photograph. Well taken. I love it! I agree 100% with that you say.
Keep on shooting...
 
ultimate art cant explain it
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both are awesome!! the words and the picture :D
 
aah! Its huuuuuuuuuuge!
 
Nice HDR! What I have seen have more or even more the hdr halo in them that is in my opinion not good. But this one instead. Really good!
 
Stunning, feels like you're there!
 
OOOOO,,MY GOD..VERRY NICE
 
what a sceaaaaaaaaaaaan!
 
Nice!!..... Like my dream house
 
you dream in colours men!!MAY your dream come true!
 
have me its generaly building plan bro
 
Forget K H, what ever u want to do, do and give your best. Thanks for sharing your hard work.
 
Stunning shot, forget that it is HDR, just a great shot. Great work
 
Thank you for your artistic perspective.
 
I like your explanation of reality. It is true, what I see & what you see are totally different, but that is where the art comes from! I love your photograph!
 
Anybody that says "any manipulation (especially HDR) alters this reality in unacceptable ways" is a killjoy of the highest caliber.
 
It's not HDR. HDR images store light intensity values logarithmically and can capture extremely dark and extremely light parts in one image. Normal monitors cannot display them properly, but it allows for excellent 'desktop darkroom' possibilities. Some games use HDR techniques to dynamically change the brightness of the scene, but they display only a portion of the information contained in the HDR sources.
What you are doing is technically "Compressed Dynamic Range" imaging.
 
Love this room instantly!
 
beauty cant describe how it looks,its more than that...its indescribable!!!
 
excelent-I like this picture/foto.
can youm send to my email?
 
This pic...it doesn't look real. Seriously. It's too beautiful and perfect to look real. Sorry.
 
good building, may be no style like this.....
 
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
all franis
 
is that a dance floor. No, its thats toooo elagent to be a dance floor!
 
As a matter of interest, nowhere in nature have I seen electric powered chandeliers or wall paintings. I look and I look, but no, they don't seem to be there. And no one seems to be complaining. However, if one picks up a camera, out come the opinionated telling everyone how cameras should only be used to copy nature.
 
Nice composition, the geometry caving into infinity is a real draw for me. Kudos.
 
Wow! Great attention to details, you are an inspiration.
 
I enjoyed the reading almost as much as the photo. It amazes me that there are still people who believe that something isn't real if it can't be seen with their eyes. What's more amazing, though, is that artists can look beyond our limitations and then show us what they saw.
 
Just refer to the recent posting about colour acuity and see some of the posted results. We do not all see the same thing.
 
wow..............really nice
 
Its fabulous!Wish to meet the designer of that house
 
It's odd how Michelangelo, Picasso or Magritte never get the "IT'S A FAKE" comment... And it's also art, but not "reality"
 
I want to marry this home..you think can i
 
i thought it's 3D artworks, wonderfull
 
It is perfect. I live in a home that is completely unperfect. It shows the individual artist's input. I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
..but.we-don't-.wnna..bee-ador'd...?1-we-.wnna-kill-the-prezadwenn't..?!
 
Amazing,,, what camera did u use?
 
no dis is absolutely wonderfuuuuuuuuuuullllll
 
This is beautiful! I think some people only think of the bad HDR shots, and don't understand the positives. If they want to see something different, then pick up a camera and knock yourself out!

Beautiful HDR :)
 
When you take a photo with an entry-level camera, sometimes you,re not too happy with the results. Then, if you upgrade your equipment, perhaps you return to the spot and take the image again with more detail, sharpness, optical quality ... and higher tonal range. Then you use to think that you,re closer to "reality" than with the first take. I think that all those "fake shouters" too ... (even if there are grotesque excesses in many HDRs, of course)
Your work (in photography and in sharing knowledge) is invaluable, Klaus.
 
i think it is great to see
 
Our OPW's Kilkenny castle, a place of banjaxed marble halls, do not allow photographs to be taken, after they've taken €14 viewing charge. Tossers.
 
Unbelievable... It's from Photoshop?
 
the eye adjusts for different light levels too quickly for us to see over exposure and under exposure for long enough. What you get here in HDR, is actually capturing many of those levels, and merging them into the one moment. Is a long exposure false, or even a 1/8000 capture.. No. It is capturing the image at a pace you can't see with the eye.

Nice HDR work, but nice composition too.
 
Beautiful shot and very nicely stated.
 
I know nothing, but it certainty looks good
 
Klaus, your image is beautiful to say the least! Having recently switched from film to digital I'm looking foreward to learning more about HDR techniques. Like all art, digital photography has extremes at both ends of the spectrum. A word to the haters....Share what you love in life with others, waste not your precious time ......
 
Totally would be my party room or where I would make all of my Techno songs and mixes.
 
nice post. could you share us what software you used for this HDR? I use photomatix and but i think this one's better...
 
i don't know a thing about photography but that is awesome
 
I just set up my D90 for bracketing. Now looking for my tripod. This is so cool! Your pictures have rekindled in me an enthusiasm for creative photography. I used to develop and print my own pictures, waaaaay back last century. Thank you so much for sharing these beautiful pictures.
 
Totally agree with your truth of photography. It's a shame some people have such limited perceptions of art and truth...they miss the wonders existing around them.
 
Awesome place and a very awesome HDR photography..and i like the way watermarks goes ;)
 
Some good points are made here
 
Jesus Cruz add me as your friend plz need more friends
 
So what do you guys think of the plans for my new bathroom then? Lol On a serious note though, an absolute stunning photograph i mean its almost sexy. just keep them coming.
 
Very Architectual...enlightening, and enthralling to the taste of Ballroom, with a little of commons room...Its a very breathtaking picture...TY for sharing.
 
Excellent comment on HDR!

Art is an extract from reality. Art is refined from reality.
 
thats the best place for ball room dancers i guess
 
Regardless, it's beautiful. I can imagine a beautiful ball with a prince and princess gliding across the floor to a waltz.....
 
Breath-taking and simply beautiful!!!
 
LONG A GO,A FRIEND SAW A VISION OF ONE OF D MANSIONS IN HEAVEN,IF THIS IS GOOD,HIS DESCRIPTION WAS EXCELLENT,STANDING INSIDE ALONE, A VOICE SAID,'WELCOME TO YOUR MANSION,WHOM HAVE YOU BROUGHT?
L CM
 
Very well said. Thanks for the pic
 
uau.........., sem palavras para descrever. lindamente espetacular
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Thank you so much for all the great comments, guys! The thread is filling up quickly.

I will try to go through and answer questions if there are any.

+Johan De Meersman
"I tend to object to those being offered as representative photos of something" I agree with you. But as long as the artist is honest about the things he/she did, it's Ok.
"What you present in this post, however, is absolutely stunning" Thanks a lot, Johan!

+Buzz Covington "People also need to understand that the human eye can process around 10 "stops" worth of information at any one time. HDR is just another way to make scenes appear more to the way that we actually experience them." Absolutely!

+Ray Canzius "Everybody has a different perspective, and that should be respected to the max. I have not problem with the picture, I think it's great" That's my point, Ray! And thanks, mate!

+caroline russelle "People should stop using HDR tags, full stop. Most with such a tag seem to be over the top exaggerations which leads me to the block button. Used with taste like any adjustment it is just another tool to get a bit more detail out of a scene." Ok, I hope I have managed to escape your 'Block' button this time. ;-)

+Lori Douglass "I like your explanation of reality. It is true, what I see & what you see are totally different, but that is where the art comes from! I love your photograph!" Thanks for your support on this, Lori!

+Wouter Halswijk "It's not HDR. HDR images store light intensity values logarithmically and can capture extremely dark and extremely light parts in one image. Normal monitors cannot display them properly..." Thanks for enlightening us technically, Wouter. I suppose many people are not aware of this. Nonetheless, I use the term HDR as it is normally used and generally agreed upon for the sake of simplicity, even if it is technically imprecise.

+Trevor Butcher "As a matter of interest, nowhere in nature have I seen electric powered chandeliers or wall paintings. I look and I look, but no, they don't seem to be there. And no one seems to be complaining." So, were does 'manipulation' start? You're right!

+Jacobo Blanco "It's odd how Michelangelo, Picasso or Magritte never get the "IT'S A FAKE" comment... And it's also art, but not "reality"" Exactly!

+Lucy Liu "Unbelievable... It's from Photoshop?" No, it's from me... and from Mr. Photoshop! ;-)

+Simon Edwards "Is a long exposure false, or even a 1/8000 capture.. No." Another great point, Simon! These are all 'manipulations' that are well-accepted. Yet, when it comes to HDR, people scream 'fake'.

+Todd Becker "A word to the haters....Share what you love in life with others, waste not your precious time" Amen, Todd! I could not have expressed it better.

+angeleah berin I use Photomatix and Photoshop.

+Frits Spieker "This is so cool! Your pictures have rekindled in me an enthusiasm for creative photography." Wow! What more could I ask for. Have fun, Frits!

Thanks for everyone for your great comments, and sorry that I could not comment back to all of you.
 
I wish my room looked like this! Lol! :)
 
Not to mention that its all papier-mache... it was fake to begin with ;-)
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I'd give my right arm to be in this place!
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nice i've also used the HDR feature in iphone 4s..
 
Definitely fake. It's clearly a life sized replica of the hall. Probably constructed in your back yard. Ya can't fool us. LOL Great pic my friend. Sharp and exceptional detail.
 
A friend had a dream of a beautiful palace as this,as he was admiring the stones,decorations and the beautiful architecture,a voice said,welcome to your mansion! whom have u brought? Beauty is not complete without people to appreciate it.we want more of this.It is beautiful!
 
Great Picture.... Absolutely beautiful hall. :-)
 
As beautiful as it is, wonder how many days in a year this beautiful place stay empty.
 
every woman dream of a room like this one
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