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This is so, so, so, so upsetting. A terrible week for girls, indeed.

Also on the same topic, but looking at abuse on Facebook instead of Reddit: 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/soraya-chemaly/12-year-old-slut-meme-and_b_1911056.html
(Warning: this piece includes some of the language from Facebook pages that espouse rape and violence against women and girls. You know, "as a joke.")

I have no idea how this is considered tolerable by the companies that run two of the internet's most prominent social sites. In the HuffPo piece, Chemaly hits the nail on the head re: the hate speech that Facebook chooses to classify as "humor" and "satire": "Just replace the gender slurs in the examples above with a racial, ethnic or religious alternative and see how long THAT lasts in Facebook." 

If you are a parent, I hope this makes you very, very f***ing angry.
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People like him are internet trolls. They are looking for a reaction. If you react strongly to things they do and say, then you become the punchline of their jokes. Internet trolls rarely believe the stuff they're saying and they only say it because they know it will get a big reaction. Does that make it right? No, but by protesting them you give them what they crave.

As an online gamer who has played several MMO game's I'm no stranger to trolling in all its forms from benign (for example if someone asks assistance in one game with something that only pertains to another game and pretends to think they are playing the other game so people will call them a noob) to extreme (trolling with violent and racist remarks). The best bet is to recognize what is real hate-speech and what is trolling. Trolling is best ignored because if any attention is paid, it only increases the troll's efforts and rewards them. People refer to this as "feeding the troll".
 
+Manny Brum I do recognize that this is trolling at its finest purest, but I also think it is actually important to bring attention to this issue. By tolerating this behavior--even "encouraging" in Reddit's case, at least according to the troll himself--these companies are promoting misogyny. Attention to the issue, petitions, and pressure from people who are pissed off about this could lead these sites to finally crack down on this horrific behavior.
 
Unfortunately, G+ is collecting a share of trolling also.  It seems to primarily be directed at politics and religion.
 
Also if it's just trolling, why so many likes? Do you really think the people "liking" these pages are all trolls? Do they like them to try and troll their friends who are looking at their profile? 

I posit that it goes beyond trolling and that in many cases these guys actually do hate/fear women and girls. The fact that for these guys, the desire to troll for lulz outweighs the misogyny and violence they are promoting into the world is an indication that at least at some level, the hatred is very very real.
 
+Kelly Ellis I understand where you're coming from, but to the trolls themselves, responding genuinely to them is more encouraging than people allowing them to do it on their websites.

+Michael Rutherford Yeah, I got trolled with politics earlier tonight. That's mostly harmless stuff though. You can just troll them back and they stop.
 
+Michael Rutherford When you see this type of trolling on G+, particularly if it gets into hateful language (e.g. not just saying "all [insert candidate's name here] voters are morons and idiots!" which could be trolling but isn't necessarily hateful/abusive), please flag those comments as abusive. We have a great spam and abuse team, but one of their strongest signals is this feedback loop from our users.
 
+Manny Brum That's why I don't respond on their pages. :)

I am promoting speaking up about this being very Not Okay. In fact, I think reacting on those pages is probably the worst thing you could do (encouragement as you have pointed out). That doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about it at all, particularly on other forums such as G+ and change.org.
 
+Kelly Ellis Yes, this is the most effective way to deal with hateful speech on here. By silently reporting you are a) dealing with the problem and b) not feeding the trolls.
 
I am all for the labeling of content as I've more than once accidentally loaded picts I regret and can never unsee, but I have proposal.

Instead of "trigger warning"  how about we create a special tag to add to the NSFW and NSFL (Lunch), maybe Not Safe For Sanity - NSFS?
It's shorter, follows standard conventions, and doesn't make victims sound mentally unstable.  When I see "trigger", I do not think of a strong "survivor".
 
Also, "Nobody on Reddit really had anything to say about it at all." is utter BS.  Jailbait was hugely controversial.  Many spoke to him asking him to stop, complained to the mods, discussed legal action, did everything they could to get it banned even before Anderson Cooper made it famous.  Part of the definition of trolling is that you have a lot of vocal people very upset with you.

He wants to blame anyone he can think of for being such a horrible person, but this was not just a few mistakes.  This was years of mistakes and he does not regret a second of it.
 
+Linnsey Miller, thanks so much for your comment. I've changed it to just say "warning." I used this term as I have seen it elsewhere online, but you make a very good point. I had not thought about the possibility that it could actually be ostracizing.

I'm all for new acronyms too, but I'm not much of a trailblazer in that regard! 
 
While these last few weeks have seen some horrible acts come to light (from the shooting of Malala, to Amanda Todd, and now this guy) I think we might see some change that only happened because the victims were young girls.

Pakistan may see more change in the treatment of women because of Malala's assassination attempt than any war against the Taliban accomplished.

Amanda Todd brought to light a story of bullying that I'll never forget. Hopefully, that makes Facebook and other entities take a closer look at how they are enabling the bullies.

I see the tragedy, but I still have hope. Despite the reality of their worlds, Malala and Amanda both were brave enough to stand up and tell their stories. Maybe that's the start of something.

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