Apple spokeswoman Kristin Huguet accused Samsung of copying the look and feel of its products.
The look and feel.... If someone can file a lawsuit based on look and feel, what's to stop a TV manufacturer from filing suit because someone else's TV "looks and feels" the same? What about all of the alternative controllers for console systems? Do they not "look and feel" similar?
Apple, you have hit rock bottom for me. This is yet another reason I will never buy one of your products, because I will not support a company who's practice is to file lawsuits to block the competition, rather than do it the proper way - innovate
Sigh, there is a point when a company had gone from protecting their right to profit off their innovation to bullying. Apple has lost a lot of my respect, as well, in their handling of Android competition.
Apple Sucks. The entire company steals ideas and when "their ideas" get stolen, they go all out with lawsuits. Apple stole GUIs and even the idea of the smartphone! The first ever smartphone was actually the IBM Simon. Apple really should be sued against, not the other way around!
I'm no Apple fan, but before people weigh in on them for this take a second to think about how these cases come about. The design patent/protection system has pretty much allowed Apple to lay claim to any rectangular touch device as protected.
Now what morons and what system would rubber stamp such a claim? Time to vent your ire at some elected representatives I think; shouting at Apple won't change the system. (but feel free to shout at both :D)
+Bill Mills Not really, their quality control/usability guru died Apple still have plenty of innovators. Moreover, a good number of these patent suits would have been instigated at Steve Job's behest; he's on record as wanting to destroy Android.
It's sad and ironic to see patents being weaponised like this, in the tech sector they're now stifling innovation and product evolution not encouraging it. Apple are the least of the problem, patent trolls seem to be everywhere these days, I'm backing the EFF's efforts to fix the problem: www.eff.org/patent
Simply pathetic. In the Steve Jobs book, the author points out that Jobs would throw a fit and literally cry like a baby when he didn't get his way. Sounds exactly like what Apple is doing on a corporate level.
The mention of "TV" in the original item reminded me that this sort of thing also happens with TV shows. ABC has a show in which a bunch of people are locked into a house. The CBS show Big Brother took offense.
Those who say that Steve Jobs would have sued Samsung are correct. Remember that Jobs was very angry about the changes to the original concept of Microsoft Windows, even when Bill Gates pointed out that both Apple and Microsoft were running with the original idea from Xerox. (Funniest lawsuit of all time - after everybody sued everybody else regarding windowing interfaces, Xerox belatedly got around to suing people. It was a little too late.)
Maybe I'm late but boy I tell you when Steve Jobs was alive you never hear anything about any lawsuits......apple must really be scared and lost since his passing that they have to do whatever it takes to keep other phones out of the US. These actions surely will not attract future buyers.
I love competition but it needs to be fair. Palm didn't copy Nokia, Apple didn't copy Blackberry, MS Metro didn't copy iOS. You can do new stuff if you want to. Android didn't have to copy iOS and the iPhone. But it did copy them in all fundamentals. Whether it is legal is a separate question, but for me it's important if it's ethical or not. I think copying somebody's product is not ethical even if it was legal. It's welcome to build on each other's innovations, but that doesn't mean it's ok to copy all fundamentals. Google does it all the time, they don't feel it's evil. :)
I really never have understood how #Apple and #SteveJobs became the "White Knight" of the #computer industry. They have always been the angry kid who got picked on in school. Jobs had a serious chip on his shoulder from the early days and Apple will continue to carry it for him now that he has passed.
As a iPhone user I think Apple got a little silly on this one. I mean the galaxy nexus and the iPhone don't look anything alike! Taking the time to follow this through and paying someone to does seem like a waste of time/money.
With ip protection laws be dis regarded on a global scale it is refreshing to see someone win such a case be it apple Samsung nokia etc. unfortunately apples innovations are no longer imperfectly immitatable so that have to rely on ip protection to sustain their competitive advantage. This is basic business strategy regardless of who the company is, and regardless of company's CEO . Why so much emotion simply because this is apple?
+Caesar Black. Never heard of lawsuits when jobs was around? Please, jobs was as ruthless as they come and made no qualms about wanting to destroy android, or any competition for that matter. Some find this appalling, but those are the same people who would love to be in the position apple is right now. If Samsung could sue apple to stop the sale of the iPhone, they would do it.
This is just rediculous this is almost as rediculous as Motorola trying to get Xbox banned in the US this is why I hate apple they are greedy and just want money you know its just sad apples acting like they lost money if that's the case why not sue every phone company by saying "hey that phone looks just like ours and plus its a touch screen phone"...I swear this has got to stop...-_-
I thought that I would be able to escape fanboy ism and bias by going on Google Plus. Boy, was I wrong. Naturally, almost everyone will talk trash about Apple in the comments for many reasons, one being this is a google owned service. Ill have android on my phone and iOS on my tablet. It's sometimes confusing though
Apple pretty much started out in its early Computer days, with a with a look and feel lawsuit against Jack Trammel (hope that's spelt right) and Atari a much smaller company that could not afford to fight Apple, which is pretty much what it banked on, so they settlr=ed out of court and removed some features of the OS that worked in a similar manner to Apples product, tApple of course BORROWED much of the look and feel (plus the mouse) from Xerox that Jobs seen and used these when the Apple IIi Personal computers (PC )were also made badged as Xerox were made, anyway so they were not averse to "Plagiarism" when they do it it seems! their vast weath will mean they can cripple compeioton on a whim no froof of any wrong doing is neede, they have always worked that way, they have ALWAYS borrowed ideas for pretty much every devise they make nothing original, OK I dont deny often they improve of it but they USE the "LOOK & FELL" on practicaly everything theve ever made, sauce for the Goose but not for the Gander it seems. A company with double standards.
Well, you have to give apple that they were the first to break through, or actually create that niche and they do have a great product in the iPhone. But after all they are a public company in a cut-throat market and they do what corporations do: try to stifle any competition and any threat to their money flow... Samsung is not so much better they'd sue if they had invented it.
But having said that, "the look and feel"!?! Come on! Guess we have to consider ourselves lucky no one has patented the wheel or the hot water - then we'd be in serious trouble :)
Apple thinks to be unique and the best;if truly so,why banner a competitor such as Samsung being innovative?Maybe because they know that in China Samsung achieved top selling of Samsung Galaxy passing Apple...Does Apple think all the Americans and all the future generations will buy Apple devices for ever??They will not establish a monopoly in the future in the world..l will never purchase a Apple device as they are NOT open sources..
Protecting real innovation is important. But the look and feel infringement claim is petty and unfounded. The look and feel is part and parcel of technological evolution that has it's earlier roots in the Palm and Handspring PDA's and even the original Microsoft tablet.
+Corrlin Perry. Apple is greedy and just wants money? Oh the horror! Welcome to corporate America.... Steve jobs and apple have been ruthless in pursuit of their success, and that is one of the reasons they have been so successful. Don't kid yourself. Corporations don't like competition and will go to any lengths necessary to suppress it. Any other company would do the same as apple given the opportunity.
Wow the ignorance of this post and comments is staggering. Every time Apple releases ANY product, they are hit with a lawsuit citing infringement. EVERY TIME, whether it's Samsung, Microsoft, etc. They all sue to block each other's products all the time. This is not unique to them, by any stretch. Go ahead and hate Apple if you want but suing a competitor is standard practice with each new phone or device so you're barking up the wrong tree. This one just happened to be one of the very few that was successful. For now.
+Terry Sutlick I guarantee Samsung will not do anything to affect the revenue from Apple. We r talking Billions of dollars. They would take any steps needed to keep apple from leaving. These companies only understand one thing. Money!! They don't give a fuck about you or me any anyone else unless it affects their bottom line.
Let's face it tech design is driven by one main factor the size of the human hand also how it works ie drawing your thumb along the surface. Its time for apple to be more confidant in its own product and let others get on with theirs .
I think Galaxy Nexus ban was because of siri's patent, not look and feel. At least that's what I read before. The patent claims for algorithms used to get search results from multiple sources and provide relevant results in a unified place for the user to choose from. (Isn't that what search engines do)
But it remains ridiculous because Apple is requesting a ban for "copying" the idea, not the algorithms used. Same as how Apple used its data-tapping patent.
Unless if the patent is only concerned with the idea. If this is the case, then granting the patent is much more ridiculous than Apple's ban request.
So why isn't Apple getting sued for trying to monopolize now? Microsoft did about a decade ago...I'm really starting to see this in Apple. Why come up with new decent products when you can just sue the pants off everyone to eliminate competition? Screw you Apple..I can't wait for your collapse.
They have no way of touching Google and Android that they will try and cut their life line, OEM manufacturers... Truly disappointing even while Google & Developers continue to make software for their products... But looks like Apple is trying to put a stop to that as well, which I believe is a more appropriate method of competition....
Does anybody know when a "look & feel" patent becomes un-enforcable?
For example, should Smith Corona sue Logitech and every other keyboard manufacturer for copying the "look & feel" of their typewriter?
Would it be okay for AT&T to sue RCA for copying the "look & feel" of their office telephone? Or, maybe AT&T could sue Apple for copying the "look & feel" of the modern cell phone...
Is it okay for Ford to sue every other car manufacturer for copying the "look & feel" of the automobile?
When does a device that is used around the world as a "standard" become part of the public domain? What else are we supposed to manipulate the screen with other than our fingers and hands..??? Maybe Samsung can come up with a tongue interface for their mobile devices... ugh
I believe that apple has the right to challenge Samsung in court if it believes they are stealing their designs. Don't hate the player hate the system. If you think that apple is the only one doing this type of thing maybe you should do a little homework so you don't look so ignorant. Apple had talks with Samsung about this before going to the courts. It's not like the thought those Samsung jerks stole our design and let's sue them. If you want to hate on apple hate on apple. Just don't hate on apple because the are playing the same game every other company is playing except they're a little bit better at it at the moment. Apple generates page clicks so everyone focuses news cycles on them. Do I think the patent system is lame and stifles innovation, yes. Do I think apple is going overboard, I don't know.
That Judge needs to get an eye test how does the iPhone look like the Samsung Nexus ?? The iPhone only has a 3,5in screen vs Nexus 4,8in and it doesn't look like a brick its curvy and more rounded than an iPhone not to mention faster ! I think she needs her accounts looking into just incase she is getting back handers from Apple .
Best bullshit patent thing I've heard so far: Apple suing Samsung because the Galaxy tab had rounded edges, clearly an idea stolen from the ipad ;-). If one can actually patent round edges then that must be what's wrong with the world
WTF WTH Apple is really started 2 push the limits of what is & isnt rite, fair, or ethical!!!!!!!! IMHO Apple deserves 2 get a taste of its own medicine but I just dont see a company that'd b capable of that rite now
Apple is shit. Menus always blue and grey blue and grey oh and blue and grey. And for 5yrs it aint changed. Move aside the colourful android is top of the chart. And greeeeeen. Dont get jealous apple. He he.
The LG Prada was out before the iPhone and the iPhone looks very similar to it. The Prada was also a touchscreen phone and won several awards for design before it's released. The Prada 2 had a front camera for video conferencing. Two years later apple came out with facetime. Apple has always copied others ideas and just make minor improvements and slap an apple logo on it.
Apple reminds me of IT, a book by Stephen King. Its huge, its menacing and its behind little kids(Android & all others against whom lawsuits are filed). But the little kids don't lose hope. They strike back and how...
This must hit google pretty hard. Appke succeeded in blocking the sales of google play devices with android 4.1 mid-July. I will not buy a single apple product anymore. They are second in sales line and crying like kids about it.
Personally I think it is time google revised it's stance on suing other tech companies and went after apple with a vengeance. maybe if they bring apple to heel then apple will get their head out of their ass and try to compete instead of sue everyone.
The lawsuits apple is hit with is the other companies seeking royalties for using their patents the reason it turns to seeking to block apple products is because they refuse to pay or come to an agreement.
I can understand if Samsung took away a proprietary part of the system affecting sales directly but slide to unlock to get into your phone is why you are fighting... come on! Tomorrow car manufacturers will start suing each other because you use 4 doors to enter the car or maybe because they all use seats to sit in the car... let's mature. Why is Galaxy nexus the only phone being affected when almost all smartphones in the market work this way. Its a conspiracy against Androids flagship and to block jellybean- that's the true side that I see not slide to unlock
i dont have a samsung i have a motorola . and i love it my wife wanted the iphone and i talked into these instead . i just wanna say i wont buy apple have not limed apple products and now this it makes me glad i dont have them . and it was said we should shout at the representitives that allowed a patent like they . well if ya think about it that wont do any good either.
You know who will end losing it all of this; the consumers. By allowing companies to purchase inventions and patents just so they can file lawsuits and stop their competitors from selling their products, we will end up with a industry void of innovation. These patent laws need to be changed. And shame on Apple for using these broken laws to eliminate competing products instead of using the challenge as fuel to create something compelling; not just decent products to panders to a lifestyle.
+Timothy Dyer, yes, agreed; Samsung also files suits. However, what Samsung, Motorola and the like are filing is mostly (if not completely) based on actual tangible technical specifications where as Apple goes on a spree filing suits based on aesthetics, or "look and feel"
"Look and Feel" arguments should have been tossed out when they started. Patents were designed to protect technologies and techniques; basically how you achieve a particular result. As long as someone can achieve even exactly the same result without copying your code or parts, it should be allowed. Patent law would be a lot better if they hadn't made the mistake of allowing "look and feel" years back.
Of the 200 new features that Apple recently announced for iOS, 199 of them were already available on Android, with the majority of them being available since version 1.0. The lone feature missing from Android is "FaceTime over cellular". http://ow.ly/bW9iP
Apple's largest expense for the fiscal year ending 2013 will be their legal expenses, as they shamelessly seek to win by litigation rather than innovation.
#Apple's future is a bit gloomy because of #JellyBean. Apple needs to understand competition doesn't mean to kick someone out using a big brother - rather create good product. #Apple in today's market profit close to 30% on all its product where other companies hardly see a single digit profit. JellyBean might drop that profit to a new low number.
Apple generate enough revenue from their technology and OS, apps etc without having to block competitors. I understand about protecting ip, especially where reverse engineering is concerned, but ffs, screw the corporate greed. Its the same financial drive which divides the classes and creates financial meltdowns.
I did my bit and switched to galaxy note :)
Btw, its lucky they didnt get into the pastry business because we'd all be forced to eat apple pie :P
there is no way that this is based off of the look and feel. the galaxy nexus has a 4.7 inch screen with a curved body made out of plastic. the iphone is a little ass 3.5 inch green with glass on both sides and a metal outline. even the dumbest person in the world wouldn't get these 2 phones mixed up. there is something else to it
I'm sure all the fruitcake Apple boys are happy....apple has nothing so let's sue everyone else because it "looks" like our products... is this part of Steve Jobs will ...to keep filing lawsuits? Did he leave a video file of rules to follow...these fruitcakes are really on my last nerves.
I say flush every cell phone on this planet....Such an obsessive worship for these things.....From the makers to the users....And everybody inbetween....lol......I may flush mine yet...lol.....But...I don't do the obsessive worship of it all....I just laugh at the insanity of it all......
If their products are so great... then why wouldnt their technology and ideas be enough to "block" the competition. Its really sad that they feel threatend by competition. Without competition things dont get better because they done need to... its like they dont wanna try... frustrates me...
I would say that Apple has lost all respect from me... But that ship sailed a very long time ago, this is absolute bullshit... Also, the phones don't "look and feel" similar at all... The nexus is much better....
it's only a pre-trial injunction. meaning this is not set in stone. Samsung will have a chance to have their side heard on Monday. if the injunction is reversed, Apple will have to pay Samsung $95 million for damages to sales.
I read about this a while back the legal claims apple make are laughable at best. Grant it some things are similar but the same thing can be said about alot of phones out there. All this says to me is that Samsung must have been doing something right for Apple to ban a phone from the US. If anything it make me want the Nexus now that it is banned.
Apple is behaving like a patent troll. They are digging their own grave like this. This is not innovation but bullying. All they do is fancy mp3 players...like the iPhone. Now wonder so many people hate them.
I think Apple just officially pissed of a lot of android users. The Galaxy Nexus clearly looks nothing like the iPhone and as for the feel of it the only thing similar is it's improved smoothness and responsiveness due to it's recent update to 4.1 Jellybean. And on that note; Isn't it a bit curious that they just so happen to ban it right after it's initial upgrade? I think not! Apple is clearly aware that they're behind Google's technology so they feel like they have to sue and stall their competitors. The way i see it if Apple can't handle the competition, they should not be part of this "Smartphone war"!
This is a continuation of Steve Jobs thoughts on anything Android: "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40bn in the bank, to right this wrong, I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
I'm still confused how it's an original idea I mean isn't this how car manufacturers better their designs? You don't see Audi in a lawsuit with BMW because all wheel drive system or Subaru cause of their all wheel drive system, just an excuse for apple to stop innovation and being in control of how people use their phone. Could apple offer a hack of a lot more to their customers? Sure they can will they? No so when another manufacturer such as windows or android does this ahead of their "apple future plans" accourse we have to suit cause that would mean that we can no longer wait a whole year to lock a customer into a two year contract making the customer want that new product they can have because of marketing techniques of apple. If apple focused on giving their customers everything they wanted maybe they'd be ahead of the competition and not have to sue them for innovating what they originally had in mind to do bit didn't because of marketing strategy. Apple work harder and stop being such a baby when someone launches something that just makes your product antiquated I mean does this mean that apple could be sued for having an LTE antenna or even more being 4G capable since other manufacturers already had this before an apple product had this and advertise as such? I wonder?
its a shame... apple should take the money they are sinking into litigation costs and use it to develop a variant of smartphone that exceeds Android. Isn't that how they did things back in the "not so old school' days. I make a product, you make a product, i come back with a much better product.
I know this is just there way to slow google/Android/Samsung's growth..But dam...Alot...And I mean Alot of people love,like want,use there products and this lawsuit stuff will in some shape or form backlash back at Apple..Steve Jobs wanted to murder android and it looks like apple will do its best to keep that train rolling. But watch what you guys do..alot of us are your customers too.
Sounds like apples are scared of their competition I have a nexus and a HTC one x and have used an iPhone 4s extensively and can honestly say that although the android stuff is good it is still lacking in some departments but hardware wise they're way ahead of the competition difference is google and its partner companies take this as an opportunity to better themselves apple keep peddling the same crap with slight upgrades and expect to still dominate and when it does they start these childish game, someone needs to grow up...