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If you're easily offended, grow the fuck up

Hilarious. +Jeff Jarvis blocked me too.  I got black listed by the Jewish G+ Mafia!  It's a running theme.  First, it started off with +Loren Feldman.  Then +Yonatan Zunger.

Moral of the story kids, keep your thoughts to yourself when it comes to the Jewish people, assuming you're the type to care to have people circle you regardless of your views.  It goes without saying, many people are easily "offended."  Or, perhaps they're apparently better than everyone else.  You know, like not using the n-word.  Everyone looks for a special trigger that they get to respond to, that they're privileged to take special offense to, that they actually drool over when someone is perceived to trip the "wire" to the their offense-grenade.

We all relish it, getting offended. Even when it's not really offense.

Or, many of us just can't stand to listen to ideas anymore than some of the Islamists that cry about offending the Prophet.  Closed minds is as closed minds does.  This overt liberal intellectual bullshitism is about the only negative side of the G+ community that I've encountered.  Other than that it's great. The necon or the religious nuts are not even that bad, usually.

I will keep saying what I think.  This seems worthy of putting in my about page for future reference, and/or so people can pre-block me for this:

In no way should anyone think that the Nazi are inherently any different than the Jews they persecuted.  And we should not discount the known or unknown actions of Jewish people during this period of history because they were being subjected to such horror.

The holocaust is all of us.  I really believe we're measured by our lowest common denominator as much as we're measured by the best of us.

All this new evidence shows is how much worse we can be, including Jewish people.  All of us.

What I truly wonder is if it could ever have been possible for us to evolve to want to eradicate this behavior from our species without having had it in the first place?

If there is no morality, if there is no free will, if there is even no such thing as an individual, it means that the holocaust in some sense was a necessary thing.  That every human evil act was somehow necessary in an absurd way.  That it's no different than one animal eating another.

I realize that sounds crazy.  But I can help but ask if it might not actually be the case.  Would utopia even work?

If my "misguided & offensive" thoughts here especially offend you, please due us both a favor and by all means block me.
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Are they bigots?  I just think they're close minded.  It's like saying "sexual segregation is offensive to Islam" or "anything critical of Islam is personally offensive."

That's not really bigoted.  They're just claiming to take offense over an idea or words, which are true, just bad for their argument.  They don't really get offended. 

That's not like saying, "Your Mom is fat."
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I agree that people too quick to call offense to something. Personally, if you didn't specifically try to offend me then you probably didn't.
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It's especially strange to supposedly offend when taking special care to specifically not offend.  It's almost like the people supposedly taking offense are offending the person they're supposedly offended by, to fake offense and accuse someone of intending offensive, just to have some sort of moral high ground.

I mean, words are words, so it's not really offense per se.  It's not like someone is pissed or angry and calling my girlfriend ugly, or making up false stuff about me just to make me mad, intending to offend for the sake of offense and noting more, through admittedly made up imagery.  This is really just a moral argument really.  It boils down to "you're being less moral than me" or "I'm superior to you."
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+Jonathan Langdale, I like the "long zoom" perspective you've taken. I like to do the very same thing in my mental wanderings.

It's truly funny how a simple arrangement of words can cause such a visceral reaction. Like you said, we all have our triggers. And they've all been laid down long ago by our upbringing, guided by our culture, in-bedded in our society. 

My guess is you saying "necessary" was the trigger. An association of that word's meaning to one of the world's worst periods of cruelty (Yes, just one, and probably not the worst. History if filled with evil-doers and do-gooders committing genocide. Just pick up one of the "good books" to read how useful and wonderful they were when "god" happened to shine down his judgement in your favor.) Where was I... yes, that word's association to one of the world's worst tragedies can easily be misconstrued to the similar message of those whom carried it out - and therefore make you appear to say that "the final solution was necessary." At that point their ability to see any valid points you were trying to make were lost causes. In their eyes you, dear sir, became Hitler and shall be stomped out like the Jews! (Wait, that's not right.)

I personally would swap out "necessary" with "inevitable." That way you can offend a whole new swath of people (maybe even more) who can't see beyond their own sphere of influence. People who don't care about history. People who don't look up to the stars and down at the quantum level. People who don't even care to peer into their own minds to see the gears in action. (To see their mental conditioning - good and bad.) Because when they do, it scares them. 

When you look across history and account for all the things that happened, it wasn't necessary. It didn't need to happen. It had to happen. A need necessitates a choice to be made in order to realize it. But there wasn't any other choice because it was never a choice to begin with.

This is where the scary part kicks in. And where the great American hero dies. (Not the "Greatest American Hero." He's fine. And awesome.) To witness this you have to see that the "free will" we've been idealizing while growing up American (or growing up idolizing American ideals from foreign shores) isn't really that advertised and legendary beacon of hope that allows a poor kid to make it to the Oval Office. You can't do what you want and you certainly can't go completely against the odds. The game is rigged. The house always wins. Your choices aren't really choices, they are habits. In fact you are just a ball of habits. And we, together in this world - all of us and our fellow Earthlings and environment - are just a clusterfuck of habits and cycles colliding, canceling out, reassembling and dancing about and linking together. It's all just patterns repeating. A fractaling of actions across all magnification layers of space and time. 

Even if free will exists, it's not much. It's a sliver, a small window of probability that only matters at our very small human level that can be snuffed out if not by our own worst actions (WWII case in point), then by an unforgiving, even unknowing Universe just waiting to convert our meaty morsels back to a new star. In the grand design of things, it's all just an insignificant fart from a gnat in the dwindling twinkle of a long ago dead galaxy. (I personally find that terrifyingly liberating. It's like reading a book. You know it has an ending but you still don't know how it ends. It's exciting. You can't put it down. Despite it having a fixed ending, you still care about the journey to get there.)

What people don't like is the thought that there can't be good or evil. (Completely ignoring the fact that it's all relative to begin with.) There needs to be free will and choice so that people can chose to be evil so we can punish them for their bad decisions. And once something is deemed evil don't you dare become even remotely associated with it. There is no choice in their response towards you. The knee was always jerked.
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Good lord. Fortunately every individual has the choice to perceive or not perceive what they feel is "offensive".  They can walk away, click away, or click their heels away into the magical fairy land where they can live in a utopia where diverse opinions and views won't reach their virgin ears. 
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Well due to my poor primitive english, I didn't really inderstand the whole paragraph, but I think that I agree.
Ps : they are doing the same things Hitler did to them, to the Palestinians, they didn't learn anything from the haulocaust.
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War is evil but in the defense of the Nazi regime it was foretold that this would happen. And evil repeats itself again and again. Nevertheless, I or any minority fathoms that an individual should be poor or homelessness or the prowess of the Nazi regime that was provoked into wrath. War is also judgement but I hope no one judges me by the way I look, to the point 95 million people are subject to genocide. Just saying.
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Yet when you don't back down then you hate everyone that is like them. Rather Islam or Christianity then one should think twice when criticizing the prophet Muhammad or the Son of God, the head of the Church of God.
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