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Take a second to notice how this works. Try to ignore the points both the Young Turks and Lou Dobbs make and rather focus on the larger, more general effect of what is happening here.

1. It immediately sets up a false dichotomy of liberal vs conservative. Everybody will fall into line either agreeing disagreeing because the opinion is so heavy-handed and absolute. There is no room for a third opinion or nuance when complex concepts are reduced like this. You've just been boxed up into one of two camps whether you wanted to be or not.
2. The vilification placed upon the topic creates an atmosphere of hatred and despair (large, sweeping agendas that out of our control). This is responded to with ridicule and return vilification. The dialogue is never about anything real but rather more focused on loaded meta concepts (liberal Hollywood, agendas and indoctrination, and also massive outrage).
3. The outrage is a poor response, this is exactly the desired effect of this kind of "story". A strongly divided and angry group of people cannot be rational and effective as a collective society. This is a validation of the false dichotomy and perpetuates the myth of a black and white world.
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Hey +Steven Sudit cool to hear from you again.

There is no third opinion, that's my point. He has created such a narrow view of the making of this movie it's impossible for there to be any kind of nuanced discussion.
 
I'm actually not 100% familiar with The Lorax, I know it has some post-apocalyptic elements of trees being destroyed. But even if he were to take his frenzied opinion into discussion mode he could at least bring into the discussion evidence of an agenda or conspiracy. But the presentation has so many preloaded points it has driven past discussion/examination all the way into a severely strange radio button. This is going to force anyone who likes him to also by default take on this position. And now anyone outside of this group is forced to take a position against this ludicrous assertion. It's like being forced to deny the existence of a leprechaun.
 
+Steven Sudit I don't disagree, I think this is an exact demonstration of that. Although I actually think there are many more than simply three positions.
 
Well, I agree with that but liberals also have a severe PR problem going on and do a horrible job of addressing it. Insane right-wing attacks take hold with the public. When "socialism" is bad word, the conversation is tainted before it even began.

Rush Limbaugh destroyed the birth control conversation. Intentional or not, we all lost thanks to that epic trolling.
 
I don't say that as a fan of his, hopefully that's clear. I mean that he's just a dick who is harming the social conversation.
 
That remains to be seen. Most of the reaction from the right has been generally supportive. There were lots of attack articles on Fluke as well. The only positive thing out of it has been the boycotts, which seem to be somewhat effective from what little I have been paying attention.
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