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I've had lengthy, contentious discussions about morality and it's objective vs. relative nature with many folks here before.

I've recently come across a thought that may be relevant to how folks have formed a position one way or the other, namely, one argument for the relative nature of morality is how the nature of what we perceive to be morally correct changes over time (and certainly over regions). This is seen as evidence of relativism, for how could an objective morality change over time?

Not to make the case either way here, but I would like to comment on that particular bit of evidence and present and alternative analysis. I suggest instead that our understanding of moral standards and human knowledge and science are linked. As we learn more about the universe, and when it comes to morality to the workings of, say, fellow humans, we are driven to revise our views of what is 'right' and 'wrong'. In the face of knowledge about the genetic similarities between me and people with different skin color and shaped faces, racism or slavery, becomes less and less tenable. 

The same line of reasoning can be well applied to the notions of consciousness, where it comes from, why it's there and what it means to have one and so forth. Each of these bits of knowledge then influence our ability to empathize, to imagine a self and that the other is also a self and what it means for our behavior to impact them. 

Whether or not morality is objective (that is, there exists some morality that we would eventually discover...)(I'm not arguing that here) science does reveal new information that will influence our perception of what is appropriately moral and what isn't. That doesn't mean that morality has changed--the facts of the matter have always existed even if our knowledge of them was unavailable--but our response to the world with and without those facts can, quite reasonably and rationally, differ.

Agreeing with this notion I've presented here as some interesting consequences in and of itself, for one could use it to imply that smarter people (at least those more equipped with the knowledge necessary to empathize, for example) are necessarily better arbiters of morality. I'm not sure there's much evidence of that either way, I admit to finding it appealing.

Whatcha think? 

I'll be out for a while, but I look forward to your comments. In the mean time, apropos of nothing, here's Lorde doing a cover of an eighties tune.
http://youtu.be/DaVA6sgOpws
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  • Jackson High School
    1991
  • Jackson Comunity College
    drafting, 1991 - 1994
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Roll playing game fool
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I like playing roll playing games and I enjoy reading science fiction and fantasy books.  I love Marsha DeWolfe.  I also enjoy watching Grimm on TV.
I also enjoy writing short stories for fun and one of my best friends edits those stories for me.
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Engaged to Marsha DeWolfe and have gone out with her for 6 years.
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