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How do you know if you are a good Photographer?
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Just how do you measure your talent? By follower count? By number of comments you get on your posts? or By number of re-shares?

If I take these as a measure of my talentI would be dead wrong. Take a look at your past posts...how may real critiques (suggestion on how to improve your photograph or what is wrong with the image) have you gotten. Perhaps a handful among 1000s of comments you have received?

Here is an a great episode from "The Grid" where +Scott Kelby and +Matt Kloskowski not only give "Real" blind photo critiques but offer some great suggestion on how to evaluate and improve your work by comparing it against your peers.

And my personal thanks to +Scott Kelby and +Matt Kloskowski for being too generous about my work.

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Here's the Free rebroadcast of yesterday's "Blind Photo Critiques" from "The Grid" (our weekly talk show for photographers).

Wow --- we are getting just wonderful feedback from this episode, and we're going to be making these blind critiques a regular feature each month. It's only our second one, and we'll continue to tweak the process and hopefully improve in our delivery and advice each time.

I saw a comment yesterday from a viewer here on G+ (+Amy Johnson) and she so gets it. She wrote: "Thanks so much for another great episode this week! Never new that watching critiques of other peoples' photos could be so educational!_ I posted the episode here, and I'll post here when we're going to do the next one. Thanks to everyone who participated. :)
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We mere mortals (= non-technical people) go by our heart. Whether a photo is technically perfect or not, when it touches a nerve that brings out color in our eyes - we see that photo with its full glory.

Non-techies follow no golden rules :-)
 
Well measuring superficial numbers is likely never to be a good measure of an artist's worth. How many followers does this guy have? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhein_II , yet has anyone on google+ sold a print for 5MM? And yet money too, is probably a poor gauge. In the art world, money and fame typically have very little to do with the quality of the work and more to do with the ambition of the artist. There are all kinds of considerations for why one print might sell for a few million or why Trey has nearly 2M followers. In the end, if even a single piece of one's work has touched someone in any kind of meaningful way, that person is probably a good artist. Does this mean we stop trying to improve, no. Perfection is unattainable, and therefore there is infinite room for improvement. All JMHO
 
+Rekha Rao Agreed...Emotional value of a photograph sometimes is far more than any critique or rules that would govern what makes a good photograph. So that underexposed blurry photograph of my daughter is priceless!!

But remember I was talking about evaluating my knowledge and talent...not necessarily what makes a good photograph.
Bob R
 
All of this drives me nuts., I showed a young man a few weeks ago one of my abstracts. He immediately blow up (my med/low resolution web presentation) to about 400% on his ipad and declared look it has artifacts in it. What can you say. The only stuff I have ever sold were mounted prints.
 
+Bob R Yes...I have been there before. The best person to judge your photographic talent is yourself....If you are honest with your assessment you can tell what areas you can improve in and what areas you are good at.
 
"If you are honest with your assessment you can tell what areas you can improve in and what areas you are good at." +Jay Patel The subjective nature of "good" aside, it appears as though you're speaking about the two areas as though they're exclusive of one another. Even the best can improve. Therefore, I wouldn't exclude the area's one is good at from the improvement process.
 
IMHO I don't think you ever think you are a real good, and this is what drives you forward, makes you strive for perfection and experiment more. You see other photographers work and it makes you think, give you ideas and inspires you.

Its always nice when people like what you do, follow and share, but I don't feel it's a true gauge of talent or success.

Critiques on G+: Would we? I mean, aren't we to worried we'll upset the person. It would be great if it happened more, or if people questioned why, how, what, try etc more often, but will they, I'm not so sure, who is ever that frank, but hey I like the idea! May be you should set a circle/ page up for it and people can join it to submit work to discuss and and get advice, a kinda community photo critiques pool.

As a bye note: The grid does my head in - takes way to long to get to the main subject, to much waffle, to many ads and to much banter! And why oh why do they need the woman on the PC involved in the banter!?
 
It seems like every six months or so I am writing a post about how difficult it is determining one's ability; especially based on sales or friends. I like to remind myself that the only real competition is with myself. http://www.timothyeberly.com/posts/2011/09/competition/
The number of friends I have compared to +Scott Kelby shouldn't mean I am millions of times worse.
 
+Carsten Sonne Larsen Sorry, but if this is aimed at me (hard to tell as not done correctly), you are way off track and miss understood what I was saying.

You obviously don't look at peoples profiles before posting or you would see what I am and what I do. I have, it's the first thing I do!

I'm not frustrated by my own photography, skill level, ability or talent, I'm very confident in all I do, whether I feel I can be classes as a "good photographer" in my eyes when I see so many other talented photographers out there is another question - if it's based on my own critique I'm still learning, improving and striving for my own personal perfection in all things I do, but if it's based on pure commercial money value of what one generates, then you'd have to class me as good.

Sorry, but I don't need pigeonholing into a category either, as I'm not an artist trying to sell photos, or a photographer selling lessons to teach others, but hey, like I said if you checked peoples profiles you'd have seen that.

I'm not even frustration at the lack of followers, or people saying my work is "nice" - I really don't give a damn as I'm NOT here to achieve recognition, I don't need it.
 
+Geoff Powell Agreed...there is always more to learn.

I think the best person to evaluate your talent is yourself. You can take suggestions, critiques, look at your followers, your sales, attach more value to your vision...but there is no one more qualified to determine which of these measure are more important than the photographer who is being evaluated.

Nice discussion.
 
Great points. I like the old "the only photographer you should compare yourself to is the one you used to be"
Sometimes great captures have a bit of Magic to them and could come from a total amateur or even a 2 year old messing with your camera (you never know!). Seeing the beauty or transforming an image into a work of art consistently takes the right kind of eye.
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