"that it makes no practical sense, and is not conservative, to send people home when they want to be here and participate as productive members of society."
Upholding the rule of law is a deeply conservative principle.
"since they are not committing any crimes,"
You are splitting a legal hair. They are breaking the law, by your own admission.
"they should have the same opportunity to apply for permanent residence and citizenship as any other immigrant."
Sure, once they go home and apply as any other immigrant.
"You keep -- again, falsely -- holding up the fact that the law is being broken as though it is very important,"
Because it is. To do otherwise is to destroy the rule of law.
"You're pretending that they committed some serious offense against the law, and I've proven that you are wrong."
By your own admission, they are breaking the law. That is enough. Breaking the law must have consequences.
And with that, since I'm sure you'll reply to this, I'll perforce let you have the final word. This discussion is getting nowhere and will never get anywhere. You are determined to argue that they should be granted amnesty for their lawbreaking (and yes, granting something for which they are not eligible is amnesty), and I will never accept that argument. Think of me what you will. I'm done arguing with you.