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Samsung's "back to the basics" UI design

System settings on the Galaxy S5. 'Nuff said.
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Which can be hidden because they're in drop down boxes.

Personally I'd rather have kept the tab design on my S4 but with the new icons but this isn't bad. Nicer than the settings menu on my Nexus. 
I like the flat icon design, but I prefer the stock android settings menus.  I have used them for so long that I know where everything is.  
So you have 3 options. 1) This view. 2) List view. 3) Tab view.

You also have 9 quick settings right at the top so you don't have to dig into anything to get to settings you want quick access too. No other phone does that, especially Nexus phones.

Cute, but I get it. The S5 design is lame bit is the cool thing to do.
such choice ... very icon ... wow ;-)   (Doge meme)
I'm not sure presenting a ridiculously overwhelming graphical list and then also including a host of different viewing/searching options qualifies as "back to the basics" -- or, you know, a simple and intuitive user experience.

But maybe I'm just crazy. ;-)
I think perhaps you have a strong dislike of Samsung and so try to pick holes in everything they do.

Don't get me wrong I'm no Samsung fanboy. I have an S4, but I also have an iPhone 5S and a Nexus.

I appreciate all of them for their strong suits and I recognise all of their failures.

This isn't a failure by any means.

But then that's just me.
it is much better than the way it was in the s4, that's for sure.
This is getting old, really not a big deal as some are trying to make it out. You can close the tabs you don't use, most common settings are at the top and if you still have issue you can change it to list view. I've looked at all the tabs and it's not bad, you find relevant settings under the right category so come on let's not make fuss over nothing.
+Zachary Kew-Denniss Clarification: I have a strong preference toward thoughtful design and good user experiences. I couldn't care less which company/manufacturer provides those things.
Their software is an over complicated, disjointed mess. Stock Android is so much better... Or Sony's lightly touched skin.
OMG, I don't know about you, but scanning this is a nightmare.

If I had one of those devices that tracks eyesight, mine would be all over the place. Icon and Text are competing in a way that makes me uncomfortable.
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. The changes they've made recently, even to the S4 in with the kitkat update are, to me at least, very well thought out and useful.

Will I be upgrading to the S5? Nah. Keeping the 4 for another year.
+JR Raphael I Think it's all preference/opinion though. Sure there are good design concepts, but not everything is good for everybody. Millions of people wouldn't buy the S5 if they thought it was awful. 
I guess Samsung is getting ready for the migration to Tizen
They are clever: we all know Koreans are genius at design, innovative with electronic devices that people who don't know the history of phones are in deed blind enough to buy such crap to fit into "friends" or "popularity" circle as like a tool to win over friends! Samsung have got too far with Galaxy series and to think that the s5 is their "flag ship" phone is just a fucking rip off...!
+Zachary Kew-Denniss stick with what you know/have - six months later Samsung will again release another version of s5 (smaller) like they repeatedly done with gs2/gs3...!
To me the issue isn't how the settings are laid out. Like we all know, you can change to a list view of you like. To me it's the sheer amount of settings available that's the problem.

Before I switched to Android, I was of the impression that Android was too complicated to use and enjoy. So when I finally decided to make the switch, I first looked at the S3, and I thought "Yup. Too complicated". Then I picked up the One X, and I thought "Android ain't that bad after all".

Like +JR Raphael said, it's the user experience. Not how it looks. 
Yes mate, all good! But each to his/her own - Samsung can Design a "better" phone, inside out but chose not to because of its commercial business ties....need I say more...!!??
+Jazli Aziz +JR Raphael The user experience here is that the settings you want to access the most frequently will ALWAYS be in plain view, no scrolling or swiping necessary. If you want to dig deeper to options that other phones have buried beneath a menu or two, you scroll down.

That seems like a good user experience to me.
+Jazli Aziz yeah but how long have you had Samsung Devices...!? Seems to me that you aren't interested in overall phone operating system or its true functionality to understand where Samsung is coming from.! The easiest devices to use (even my neighbors kids can do with Samsung what few others feel shame of, and that's kids younger than 10!) The point is: it not about the "settings" or "layout" but Device UI of it's dullness of an expensive Phone! They could have done "better" with UI but chose to make the Gs5- (IMO) look like a phone-toy for kids...!
+Derek Duncan that's fine, but it's just a solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist. Having the quick settings on the top is necessary because of how many settings there are in the first place. People say this is a good feature that even stock Android doesn't offer, but that's because in stock Android, you don't have as many settings to need it.

Like I said, the root of the issue is not how the settings are displayed, it's how many settings there are in the first place. 
Don't you think that's good? Everything categorized in collapsible tab.. Just like old-dumb phones settings back then. 
Like the default applications menu like in Linux.
the point of the post was /is that samsung was suppose to go back to basic and we got BS. They kept the same over complicated philosophy
THIS is exactly why the myth that Android is "complicated" exists...! Come to the think of it, most of Androids negative stereotypes are because of Samsung, e.g. ugly icons and interfaces, UI lag. 
Not to mention that every device with 4.2+ has quick shortcuts to brightness, WiFi, data use, battery, airplane mode, Bluetooth, location and settings right from the notification area.

And Samsung also has these and more packed into their notification area. And a widget. And now, settings. Which lockscreen and wallpaper are things they modified themselves like having to go through extra steps to enable lockscreen widgets and set preferences. "Basics".
While I like the look, I do think they could've made it 4 rows. 
Holy crop batman... If that's back to the basics... I would hate to see Samsung's version of advanced :-P 
+Derek Duncan -- "it's all preference/opinion" -- no, it's not.  If it were, where would the designers start?  We all share some physical and psychological traits that make some designs inherently better or worse than others.  This one is a mess -- no visual "at a glance" differentiation among 'way too many choices.  That's not good design for anyone, which I think is the point +JR Raphael was making.  Samsung should have categorized all of those choices into logical groups in a menu, like almost everyone else in the World.
+Derek Duncan -- yes, but the categorizations are flat and their IDs are tiny compared to the setting icons.  Visually (at a glance) they pretty much disappear.
Why doesn't anyone show a picture of the settings menu with every tab open? You all act like we don't have to scroll and dig through menus on our Nexus phones to find what we want. That screen shot is misleading and even I can see that as an owner of three different Nexus devices.

When I first started using Android, I loved the choices it presented so that you could choose the phone that is right for you and not everyone has to use the phone that the manufacturer (Apple) says is right for them.

Nowadays, everyone criticizes anything that is not Google. Nexus fanboys of today aren't that different from Apple fanboys of yesterday. The Google Phone is the new iPhone, albeit still not as popular. 
+Marcus Thomas  This screenshot shows how the settings menu looks when you open it -- the default view, without any manual expansions or other modifications. Not sure what's misleading about that.

And I can't speak for everyone else, but I certainly wouldn't say that everything other than a Nexus UI is inherently bad. I think HTC's most recent software is quite good overall, for instance, and actually recommended it over the "pure Google" alternative for most people.
Yeah I don't see HTC getting blasted for software design. Mostly because they are actually pretty good at design. A lot of their newer core apps are really attractive and usable.
+JR Raphael if that's the default view, then Samsung is doing something wrong. I don't care about the brand enough to ever pick one up, but looking at the picture with no accompanied commentary detailing it, I had just assumed that the default view would be every header collapsed with the option to expand each as necessary. So not misleading, but definitely not descriptive enough to make a proper judgment. Of course, now I see and join in on the outrage.

And I exaggerated in assuming everyone has the mentality that if it isn't Google, it isn't right. However, that's a pretty common theme online in the Android community with most of the hate directed directly at Samsung (jealous, perhaps?) while other brands aren't hated on as much. Regardless, most seem to claim they prefer vanilla over any other flavors. 
I'm torn between this and the HTC One (M8), mostly because I got burned by the T-bolt several years ago, and I sported the HTC Droid Eris before that. Been on the Samsung G-Nex for the past 27 months and it's treated me well.  Do I really want to go back to a skinned phone?  Hmmmmmm...
+JR Raphael completely agree with you. Design is not just more of everything, thoughtful design removes clutter not add it. There is only as much Samsung can accomplish by being all things to all people. They need to seriously look at making an overhaul of their UI choices 
If millions of folks wanted fucking stock android then samsung would've design around that guideline, why go stock when no one is asking for it otherthan a few clowns on g+ 
+Ryan Conger  If you hate skin dont go with Samsung. I have the HTC One M8 it's a great phone and you wont notice the skin as much as you do with Samsung. 
Guess the tech crowd will continue to bash till the end of days, never saw this much hate when Samsung was just starting with Android. But nowadays no matter what they do, the tech crowd will somehow make it negative 
Maybe just me but when I think of the basics of a smartphone, I think it should apply to doing the very fundamental things like contacts, calls, messages, email, gallery really, really well. And the core apps doing these things are the ones they largely haven't changed and rewritten from scratch in YEARS.

So if they really wanted to focus on the basics, they should make their gallery not be a laggy pile of suck. Or fix their extremely buggy contact sync options with things like Facebook. Or make their messaging and phone apps look like something that was designed in the last 4 years. Not say "the basics" and add news readers that poorly integrate with flipboard and heartbeat sensors and act like those are the main user facing issues that need addressing. 
+Jonathan Franklin droid charge was a terrible phone, it's kind if like HTC thunderbolt just not as bad lol.. Back then more people were rooting for Samsung because they wanted something that can stand up to the apple and the iPhone but now that they have reached that status, pretty much 90% of the Internet tech crowd just hates on every little thing. Tw back then was terrible but man I did not see this much complaining then. 
+Taz Hoque The big difference, from my perspective, is that the rest of the Android ecosystem has evolved considerably since then. Thoughtful design has now become commonplace and expected. The bar is simply far higher today than it was several years ago, when "begrudgingly acceptable" was good enough.
Yeah its largely a matter of reference now.

Gs4 for example, was probably the worst hardware and software match Samsung has put out in a flagship. There was no excuse for a 2013 flagship with that hardware to have lag and performance issues, not counting the others like storage bloat.

The main thing is their software does a poor job of just getting out of the way and letting a user actually use the phone. Hell even though touchwiz early on was ugly it was at least consistent about it. Currently it smashes together three design languages: old touchwiz, tizen-ish touchwiz, and android apps that actually follow the design guidelines which includes Google apps and most good apps on the Play Store. w
Windows 8 hasn't gotten any breaks for it and android OEMS shouldn't either.

People just kind of tend to expect the most profitable android OEM to have some level of direction in software and design instead of spraying all over the place. HTCs design is consistent and identifiable. Googles is, Moto's is, Xiaomi's is. Samsung is not, nor is LG. 
+Jonathan Franklin do you think it's because they are Korean both Samsung and LG and maybe in Asia that colourful experience is what people like and thats just in there dna that western countries don't get. Maybe it's just coincidence that samsung and LG both have similar styles and come from same country. .. Agree the s4 software was laggy but I have the s4 and since the app2sd update and with kk now I don't have any real issues. It just seems like Samsung rushed the sw out with the s4 because with s2 and s3 it was great even with just 1gb ram and slower spec.
+Taz Hoque colorful isn't the problem. Ios7 is colorful (and iphone is by far tops in U.S. in marketshare) and it is still at least consistent across the board in design.

The main problem is they don't treat developers and designers like many companies here do. Here it is much more highly valued. There they're treated more like your average grunt employee.

Or even MIUI (China). Even though ios-like, they also "get it" from a design perspective and their community is a part of that too.

Design isn't just icons and colors, it is thoughtfully aligning things so the eye can latch onto them, paying strict attention to typography and margins and also making sure that translates well in multiple languages and multiple screen sizes/accessibility settings and so on. And it is also about providing consistency across the board so that the user understands the concepts of the operating system. So when they create something different from how most apps do it, it doesn't reinforce user experience. Or if they don't pay attention to aligning things well the user may think it is messy but can't quite explain why. It is a bunch of small details that add up to a bigger picture. 
+Jonathan Franklin I get what you mean, ain't no denying that some parts of tw don't feel like the same ui, they probably stuck trying to keep different camps happy or maybe stuck between transition of 1 design to another..Maybe I'm wrong but I just don't think mass consumers look that closely to design. Every year it's the same argument right that samsung design is bad etc, if mass consumers had a terrible experience with a £500 device chances are in this day and age where people are looking to save etc they would either return a bad device especially if they have to live with it for 2 years or if they decide to keep it they would not return next time.. People will say it's all marketing but marketing gets you to look at a device, if the device is bad it won't sell. I totally get when people complain about design but maybe it's just isn't as bad as some make it out to be. 
I don't see what the big problem do know that if you took a screenshot of every menu and sub menu of all the settings in an iPhone even, it would be just as "complicated" as this, right? The point is that the things you use most often will be easy to find, which looks like this picture shows that nicely. I can clearly see how to turn on and off Bluetooth, WiFi, etc. For those who really want to take advantage of their phone to the fullest, they still have lots of options. I still prefer the stock Android settings and think that manufactures shouldn't mess with the setting menu a whole lot, but at the same time, I really don't think this is "confusing". It really looks like basic stuff to me.
+Austin Cooper Just to be clear, these aren't multiple sub-menus stitched together. This is a single scrolling screen that you are presented with upon entering the system settings.
+JR Raphael I understand that. Instead of you clicking something in the settings and it taking you to another tab or page in the settings, it opens a drop down menu. So basically the only difference is the animation....still don't see how this is complicated.
+Austin Cooper Not exactly. When you open the system settings, you see precisely what's pictured here -- one giant scrolling screen with dozens of stacked icons.
Looks very meego inspired 
Stock Android only for me.  Nexus or Google Play phones only.
That is just stupid. How do these morons think that is basic?
Ive got an Huawei, it runs jelly bean 4.2,it has dual core. I paied £50 for it, £40 for the phone and £10 credit. I brought in the new year sales I'm well happy I would be happy even if I paid £100. Android the way to go, its beyond me why people spend a fortune for an I phone, all your really paying for is the apple logo on the back, a fool and there money are easily parted...
Hmmm, one more example of when "less" is "more".    :-)

My first Android phone was a Samsung Galaxy Nexus.  I was lost for most of a week, until I got the hang of it, after which the menu and controls looked quite logical.  If it had a menu like this, I doubt I ever would have bought it, and if I did, it would be on its way back for exchanging for something else.

I like the "stock" menus in the Nexus phones, and the HTC M8 isn't all that much more complicated.  To me, "basic" means a simple set of menu choices that lead me in a logical way to whatever I want to adjust or change.
Another good reason to go stock Android.  This would drive me crazy.
Yeah, it drives me nuts. Too hard to find stuff. I guess it will just come over time with memory. 
It will be better to minimize the size of the icon and enlarge the text plus arrange it as list-view like the android setting that we all used to. It saves space, clear and visually pleasant.
+victor lai   As a newcomer to Android a few years back, I was overwhelmed anyway, knowing only Nokia and Apple phones at the time.  The simple, well-organized way Nexus did things had me up and running on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus in a week or two (yeah, I'm slow). 

With this mess, and not knowing how to do the things you just suggested, the phone would have been returned. 

If you forget the performance increases over the years, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus is the nicest Samsung phone I've ever had the pleasure to use, and I still have it.  Zero bloatware, easy to use, and everything that was needed was so easy to get to.  In fact, if Samsung were to take the exact same phone, add the new electronics and maybe the waterproof housing, I think I would already have bought it.
In a couple years the screen on the Samsung phone will be large enough to fit all of these settings at once.
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