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(Thu05) Spain might lose its four-day weekends

Holy kaw, vacations are at risk in Spain.
As an austerity move, Spain is considering rearranging its holiday schedule. Holidays that fall on a Tuesday or Thursday tend to become four-day weekends. But now there's a move to mark them on Monday...
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Four day weekends... We never get those! But, I guess I won't be moving to Spain!
 
Don't start stressing the rest of the world out, jobs shouldn't run our lives.

Work to Live, don't live to work. 
 
It would be a small step in the right direction for the economically challenged country
 
...So they'll take Friday or Tuesday off instead. Not sure how this helps.
 
I wish we could be arguing about what days we have off here in America. Come to think of it, I think the only thing we do here is complain about Mondays.
 
NnnNNOoOOOOOOOoOoOOOOoOOoooOOooooOO!
 
+Guy Kawasaki For a country that's experiencing unemployment of 50% for 20-somethings, you would think a significant number would be interested in change. Doesn't the unemployed there have enough "free" time already? /smh/
 
I will agree that working with companies/businesses in European countries is difficult with all the holidays. Almost to a point that it is ridiculous.
 
Hiees es nicht dereinst am gelobten Mittelmeer: "am siebten Tag sollst Du arbeiten?" und den Rest ruhen!
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I live in Portugal and a similiar situation happened here , and as far as i could experience, 4 day weekends or a week with "bridges" completely stopped the country and the companies, so it's a necessary move!
 
What's next? A scaling back of the month long summer holiday in August?
 
Do it as they do in the USA... Monday holidays, or Friday. Makes a nice weekend and avoids ultra long weekends, and same time you don't get some years when most of the holidays fall on Sunday (which sucks too)
 
Does it matter that this is completely irrelevant? That Spain was running a budget surplus; that the downturn in Spain is based on cheap money from German banks flooding the real estate market? But, hey, it's because the Spanish are lazy and Spain is just like Greece (facts be damned).
 
Spanish are very happy reading people (who mostly don't know the matter) labeling them. First is respect, please.

Hopeless, simply hopeless...
 
God forbid they have to work to get out of a recession
 
Ah +Mark Lastiwka are you blaming the Spanish worker for the recession? What exactly would this have done to prevent German banks from making bad investments to drive a real estate speculation bubble? How does making people with jobs work longer hours create jobs for the 25% unemployed and 50% 25 and younger unemployed? {Germany did the exact opposite, by the way, cutting work hours to provide jobs, but that requires thinking.} Yup, let's blame the Spanish worker for German banks, Greek debt (arranged for and hidden by Goldman Sachs' toxic derivative squad), and the Euro's inability to deal with cross-country liquidity adjustments. Sad.
 
+C-G Hanson You do realize that the way Germany coped with a slowing economy was to CUT workers' hours to prevent unemployment. Increasing workers hours will help PREVENT the reduction of Spain's employment. Doh!
 
+Jim Fawcette - I wasn't blaming the Spanish workers for the recession, just merely pointing out the fact that you don't get out of a recession by going on vacation. Perhaps the 25% unemployed could be working on those "weekends" (which, oddly enough, are longer than the work weeks). It's hard to make money off products that take 3 times as long to ship than in other countries...
 
+C-G Hanson Yes, the issues in Greece are so extreme they would be comic if the suffering wasn't. But don't confuse Greece with Spain. Situation is entirely different. Greece is an outlier not a model.

+Mark Lastiwka Again, see German model, cut hours rather than people, keeps more employed. Works well. Doing the opposite, not so much.

+Andreas Duess Primary cause in Spain was a real-estate speculation bubble, which was not driven by the general populace but by cheap money (primarily from German and also French banks) that made the bad bet that risk was the same everywhere in the Euro area. See also Ireland and Iceland. German policy now (over-simplified) is "we must not allow our banks to be held accountable for their bad investments, they must be protected, but ... people should be accountable." Not working. Money has to flow back from Germany one way or another. Merkel wants to build a dam.
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+C-G Hanson, yes, I'm northern, but I also know good southern workers. Generalizing is not a good way, in my opinion. I agree with +Andreas Duess, our problem is not our working hours, it's our spending (private and public). And, of course, some greedy people...
 
Please people... think first. These are desperate measures to fight against the bad/vicious/mean politics along time, from EU.
Politicians just wanted to win elections and didn't had the BALLS to make a better EU. The debt was hidden, and hidden under the carpet.
WE DIDN'T reach this point because of holidays! ...plz
 
Do youunderstand that the so called "puentes" happen when the holidays(which aren't fixed on weekday, but on date) fall on Tuesday or Thursday? Inthat case some (not all) employees get to have an additional day off. However,if the holiday falls on Saturday or Sunday, the employees don't have a day offat all. If you move all the holidays to Monday or Friday, including those whofall on weekend, you end up in average with the same number of days off (infact you may get more, because as I said not all employees get to use bridgedays)..
 
+DioGo RoCha CoeLho you may or may not have reached this point because of holidays, but you may need to work on the holiday schedule to get back out. (And I don't know enough about the situation in Spain to argue whether the weekends are either part of the problem or of the solution, but I do know the argument "this isn't what gave us trouble, so it doesn't matter for the way out" is flawed)

+Jim Fawcette what you call the "German model" also doesn't work. Cutting work hours to generate jobs builds on the assumption that work hours in an economy are constant and need to be fairly distributed, but they are not. When we started to leave that model, unemployment went down. Because elsewhere on the planet, there were people willing to buy our stuff at the resulting lower prices.

Today, demand in Spain is low. The naive approach would be government sector spending, but over-indebted gov'ts were the trigger for the problem in the first place. Gov'ts are too deep in debt because they rescued banks. Banks are in trouble out of their industry-internal vicious cycles of doping their balance sheets, but - as a whole - they are still irreplaceable. International transfers between governments (e.g. from Germany to Spain) won't solve the problem because obviously we will reach a point quickly where Germany et al. won't get credit anymore, either - and who's going to rescue us then? And besides, while employment in Germany is on the rise, poverty is on the rise, too, because so many German jobs don't pay the bill anymore.
 
+Brent Haag Maybe they find it difficult working with you? For me, here in the USA, I find it difficult formulating boundaries with employers and businesses who seem to reject outright, personal time, personal space, and vacation time. Technology has made it both good and bad for the same aspects.
 
When I work at the Veterans Hospital I use too work all holidays and in the middle of the week if I did want a day off I would or wouldn't take it plus you as a person you save more money in long run. Then when you took your vacation you had that extra money to spend also. 
 
+Josef Dietl u are right... we need to do them now... (in Portugal we will be starting next year)
As i said before "these are desperate measures" and it's a shame we need to get this kind of fool strategies to get back out :'(
 
I asked Dr. Google how many holidays the country of India has and they couldn't answer it because I got lit friends on Fb. and it seems that they are always celebrating something or other 
 
according to OECD stats, USA and spanish workers, work about 1800 h/year......very similar.

btw, in Greece they work more than 2.000 h/year
 
omg... +C-G Hanson I don't even comment on that... anyway, I ask... by that rational, killing the week "holidays", (like the portuguese/spanish) will suddenly change what?
 
+C-G Hanson you're right. Statistically, during Spanish/Greece working hours they work on low-value product/services, while in USA, they work on high-value product/services. Statistically.
 
If that is the case, the logical next question is: what do "we" have to do to enable Spanish/Greek/... workers to add more value per hour? And who is "we"?
(and who is going to buy that added value?)
 
So thats why their economy is in the circling the toilet bowl.
 
In all this talks about 4 days weekend one never considers that a large majority of this free time will be spent spending money on restaurants, hotels, other "lazy" activities that... guess what... there are companies that live on that, and...surprise surprise, there are people that actually work for the tourists... a lot.... so, my point is, there's always two ways of looking at things, and in this case, one of the major industries in Spain is tourism!
 
Politicians and Companies have been working together for around a year trying to put this into action with no luck. Obviously they are still trying, so at some point we will loose our beloved "bridges" (poor translation for that 4-days bank holidays).
I hope we don't loose that privileges or this will become a "living for working" instead of "working for a living".
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