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Talk notes: Hardware Startup Opportunities in Europe for Taiwanese Teams

The Taiwan Startup Stadium put together an event yesterday, where Josh Liu (@uniquejosh on Twitter) of HardwarePro and Source Institute was discussing issues regarding hardware startups, with a focus on cross-continental lessons to be learned between Europe and Asia.

Here are some notes on what I have picked up at the event from Josh's talk and the answers to audience, paraphrased (not necessarily 100% correct or agree with my views:).

Complementary Skills

Europe (and UK in particular) is strong on design, while manufacturing skills are harder to come by. Taiwan teams are generally strong on manufacturing and development but weak on design. There are lots of opportunities for co-operation and learning from each other, working together.

For example European startups might know how to raise a lot of money on crowdfunding platforms but they tend to run out of cash before they get to launch properly. Taiwanese startups might raise a lot less money but it can last them till launch - even though they might be a lot slower to launch. Bringing together European knowledge of consumer facing skills and Taiwanese development savvy can potentially create projects that are both well funded and do deliver.

Areas of Growth

The main centers of hardware innovation are London, Berlin, and Paris closing in on 3rd place. If he'd need to look further, Josh considers emerging areas of the North: Estonia and Finland, where a lot of ex-Nokia hardware gurus are building things.

EU has a long history of high level, large scale manufacturing (due to aerospace industry, Nokia, &c), while Eastern Europe is trying to get in now on technology manufacturing. Their skills are currently behind Shenzhen in general, but simpler designs might work well already, and they are constantly improving.

Trends

Bottom-up innovation is more common, where makerspaces, universities, different hardware communities are creating their own solutions and new products. There are some examples of top-down innovation going well, such as some high-end department stores running their own hardware accelerators, in the hope of being the first to tap into interesting new products.

The EU marketplace is generally considered fragmented, which is very bad for software products, for example, but hardware can be largely language agnostic. This can give an edge to hardware startups of the region that are not obvious for people who are working in other industries.

Financing

Whether it's an European team planning to go to Asia (Shenzhen, Taiwan, Singapore....), or an Asian team going to Europe, need to know your objectives! Teams are often just chasing the money, while savvy startups follow the customers instead.

The UK startup scene is much better known for FinTech innovation, and investors like what they know -- and hardware they don't know yet. Most successfully funded European teams follow the pattern of "easy hardware and hardcore software to make it powerful". That is a more familiar model to VCs, and got them more engaged. It also maps better onto their better design chops. This might work well for a while, and for some teams, but should change in the future. In general there's a lot of talk and little action (yet).

Investor's in China on the other hand know a lot more about hardware and can bring big volume (due to the size of the country). For some teams it would then make more sense to go after Chinese money than European to fund their ventures.

Josh also outlined Taiwan's potential benefit over Shenzhen as a base or collaborative partner. Taiwan is more serious about IP protection which concerns a lot of founders, the cost of living is comparable or better as Shenzhen is becoming very expensive both to live and to run a business, and Taiwan has a comparable or better location being more international-focused due to her smaller internal market.

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That's mostly it. I'm excited to see this kind of global, holistic view of development, and looking for the corners where I can add value myself. What's your take on these?

Check out further info from Josh Liu (https://twitter.com/uniquejosh), the Taiwan Startup Stadium (startupstadium.tw), or feel free to connect up with me here!
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The Death Eaters is an interesting example, though they have lost after all, while Dumbledore had made a shit ton of notes (pensive, anyone?).

And hard to do ideation meetings that are so short that no ideas needing to be noted come out of it. :) The email can be a good reminder, but that is for the common understanding. My notes and your notes would be different normally, because it should be all the extra, individual thoughts and interpretations, beyond the common underastanding, imho.
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