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Fox News uReport: Hunting down those Black Friday bargains? If so, show us the deals you’re getting & the ridiculous lines you’re waiting in – basically, send us photos of the Black Friday Frenzy going on around you!
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+Francis Moran So true. You would think that in a time in history where the economy is about to go over the fiscal cliff people would be intelligent enough to hang on to what money they have left. 
 
I personally like to wait till the New Year when companies announce thier layoffs and all that good stuff hits Craigslist...send ya some pics then.
 
+Francis Moran I hear ya Francis. Which is why I continually come back to education. We must spit our kids out of the system. As long as we send them to schools that do nothing to educate them and just indoctrinate them--- We are doomed.  
 
We are not doomed. Those chose to left their families and go shop today for things they don't really need are doomed. 
 
+Gregory Curtis The only problem with that is that the intellectually bankrupt are quickly becoming the majority of the voting block. 
 
The Majority of Walmarts are in the South, I am a Southerner. Southerners are basically conservative and I can assure you that there are as many Romney supporters as there are Obama supporters raking through the trash looking for a bargain. We all have family and friends out among the masses now looking for a bargain. I just don't see the purpose of fighting you over something that I know is going to end up in a yard sale or on Craigslist. 
 
+Gregory Curtis you're right. This is NOT a conservative-liberal thing. Its the fact that our nation through a complete failure of an educational system has turned our nation into a nation of buffoons. 
 
Can't blame the Education System. If Churches spoke out against consumerism that would put a dent in the madness that leads up to the Holidays. Where are the Conservative/Liberal leaders on this issue? We can all blame one person and that person stares at us everyday in the mirror.
 
+Gregory Curtis True. It all boils down to the individual. If you can look yourself in the mirror everyday and still send your kids into the government run indoctrination centers (Schools) everyday. then you are looking at both the problem and the solution. Sending your kids to be brain washed is child abuse.
 
Red Friday for the shoppers ;)
 
Yeah, keep kids out of the indoctrination centers (schools) so they can get good jobs (Walmart) and put food on the table (food stamps) like real Southerners (white people). Happy Thanksgiving (Black Friday)! 
 
yea like Sergey Brin, billionaire founder of Google.
Ansel Adams, photographer. Dropped out of high school.
Carl Bernstein, Watergate reporter, Washington Post.
Charles Culpeper, multimillionaire owner and CEO of Coca Cola.
Michael Dell, founder of Dell Computers.
Larry Ellison, billionaire co-founder of Oracle software company.
Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple Computers and Pixar Animation.
and the list of successful people who didn't go to college goes on and on.
Now as you look over this list, please note how many well-known people had a tremendous amount of home schooling, and remember that currently, home schooled kids out perform their public school counterparts by 30% or more. Why do you think that is?
 
Oh, you found a nice and neat list of highly motivated and successful people who coincidently started their careers before completing schooling. I applaud their success, however, I suspect the gated communities and luxury condos where I live are not filled with high school drop outs. The statistics do not weigh in favor of your argument, so I'll stick with the numbers - you can learn more about statistics in school. 
 
+Hugh Pecon Not one person on your list would hire a high school dropout to run their companies or protect their interest. Even home schoolers have to past a State exam. Your argument fails.
 
+Gregory Curtis Yes you're correct. They do have to pass state exams. That's how we know that home schooled kids are OUT PERFORMING their public school counterparts by 30% or more.
 
Doesn't matter where your Child is educated if the HOME is not in order. 
 
I can see that your one of those that refuse to take personal responsibility for your Children. Good 'Day.
 
+Jeremy Tregler Mark Cuban recently wrote, “As an employer I want the best prepared and qualified employees. I could care less if the source of their education was accredited by a bunch of old men and women who think they know what is best for the world. I want people who can do the job. I want the best and brightest. Not a piece of paper.”
 
To some people "it" will always be someone else's fault. The major Majority of successful people listed in a previous post are Public High School Graduates and College drops outs. Once again you FAIL in your argument. 
 
But why do the home schooled perform up to 30% better? One again you fail.
 
In 1997, a study of 5,402 homeschool students from 1,657 families was released. It was entitled, "Strengths of Their Own: Home Schoolers Across America." The study demonstrated that homeschoolers, on the average, out-performed their counterparts in the public schools by 30 to 37 percentile points in all subjects. A significant finding when analyzing the data for 8th graders was the evidence that homeschoolers who are homeschooled two or more years score substantially higher than students who have been homeschooled one year or less. The new homeschoolers were scoring on the average in the 59th percentile compared to students homeschooled the last two or more years who scored between 86th and 92nd percentile. i

This was confirmed in another study by Dr. Lawrence Rudner of 20,760 homeschooled students which found the homeschoolers who have homeschooled all their school aged years had the highest academic achievement. This was especially apparent in the higher grades. ii This is a good encouragement to families catch the long-range vision and homeschool through high school.
 
+Gregory Curtis The last significant statistic from the Strengths of Their Own study regards the affect of government regulation on homeschooling. Dr. Brian Ray compared the impact of government regulation on the academic performance of homeschool students and he found no positive correlation. In other words, whether a state had a high degree of regulation (i.e., curriculum approval, teacher qualifications, testing, home visits) or a state had no regulation of homeschoolers, the homeschooled students in both categories of states performed the same. The students all scored on the average in the 86th percentile regardless of state regulation.vi

Homeschool freedom works. Homeschoolers have earned the right to be left alone.
 
Homeschooling leaves kids woefully unprepared for social interaction. Are you married? Where did you meet your spouse? What did they like about you? What did you do during your courting, and would a homeschooled child have most of those same social interactions to form the base of a well adjusted personality?

Most homeschooling I hear about is more about religious freedom than any concen about the quality of the education. If you want to teach your kids that the earth is only a couple thousand years old and that evolution is a plot to subvert religious teachings, homeschooling may be for you. I'd prefer my kids know how to live in a society with other people in a public setting.

Home school kids are weird. 
 
+Jeremy Tregler Students coming from a home school graduated college at a higher rate than their peers­—66.7 percent compared to 57.5 percent—and earned higher grade point averages along the way, according to a study that compared students at one doctoral university from 2004-2009.
 
+Jeremy Tregler said "Most homeschooling I hear about is more about religious freedom than any concen about the quality of the education. If you want to teach your kids that the earth is only a couple thousand years old and that evolution is a plot to subvert religious teachings, homeschooling may be for you. I'd prefer my kids know how to live in a society with other people in a public setting."

Your intellectual laziness is both astounding and bigoted.
 
+Francis Moran haha yes so true. +Jeremy Tregler proves without a doubt just how weak our school system really is. Ass usual the good little intellectually dead dolts  will not let the facts get in the way of their bigoted opinions. 
 
“We are all born ignorant but one must work hard to remain stupid.” Benjamin Franklin
It seems that +Jeremy Tregler must be working overtime.
 
+Francis Moran Many homeschool graduates go on to college as soon as they are done with their homeschooling. Indeed, an in-depth study of homeschool graduates between the ages of 18 and 24 found that they were significantly more likely to be in college or already have a college degree than the general population of the same age. While at university, many homeschool graduates demonstrate how well-rounded they are by merging degrees that don’t seem to be all that related, such as the physics/piano performance student mentioned above

http://blog.drwile.com/?p=3471
 
What's amusing to me is that offense is taken at at my calling homeschooled children "weird," followed with several follow up examples of how public schools are perceived to be. Given the ridiculous examples, one could only assume their children would be safer in a brothel. Your child will get from a school what they put in to it - and how much you're willing to be part of the process. A well-parented child will do as well in a public school as they would sheltered away in a home schooled environment, just as a poorly-parented child would fail in either environment. However, going to one or two dances a year is not enough to learn how to relate to ones peers, especially if they are constantly described as evil heathens.
 
+Jeremy Tregler "Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil." --C.S. Lewis
 
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
 
You're free to live any way you want, as long as that way fits within my narrow world view.
 
Homeschoolers have more diversity in social interaction because they can spend time during the day out in the real world.

Argue from ignorance if you must, but homeschooling also many times involves support and activity groups as well as co-ops organized by parents.
 
So homeschooled kids, who are homeschooled primarily to avoid the icky realities of the real world, have more social interaction because they spend more time in the real world?

And this is Fox News - the only way to argue is from ignorance!
 
They are homeschool to avoid the cloistering of kids, separated by age.
 
I just wanted to be sure there was a double standard. I could come in here and spew whatever I wanted about homeschooling without proof, and it would be demanded of me. My opinion would be discounted because I couldn't back up my facts with sources.

This is how the rest of the world reacts when Fox News viewers say Obama is a Muslim, or a socialist, or that he was born in Kenya, etc.

I really don't have an opinion about homeschooled kids, but I do enjoy watching people freak out. Thank you for the entertainment!
 
BTW, because the President's father was Islam, it makes him Islam. It's like being Jewish because your mother is Jewish.

And, as I have said before, it was courageous for the President to say he was Christian, because in Islam, to convert is a capital crime.
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