Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions is accusing the Obama administration of failing to enforce a century-old law meant to prevent immigrants from taking root in the U.S. only to live on the government dole.
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- And it was democrats that fought against desegregation.
I think I'm repeating myself, but you saying something doesn't make it a fact. Crops rotted in the fields during the depression because farmers could not afford to harvest them. The reason you give is false.Feb 27, 2013
And the parties of the Civil War and Civil Rights era have nothing to do with now because the political alliances that once were, are no more. A well known fact. Your flaccid attempt to discredit with irrelevant facts about history has been found wanting.Feb 28, 2013
I posted 3 articles proving Mr Scott wrong. Apparently Fox News didn't like the idea of facts getting in the way. So here's 3 different links saying the exact same thing as I said before. The only person wrong is & anyone who agrees with him.
"The farmer said he is willing to hire native workers, but not enough people will labor in the fields. He depends on a private company to send migrant workers with visas to man his farming operation."
"It goes like this. If you’re not going to let illegal immigrants do the jobs they are currently being hired to do, then farmers will have to raise wages to replace them. Since farmers are taking a risk in hiring immigrant workers, you can bet they were getting a significant deal on wage costs relative to “market wages”. I put market wages here in quotations, because it’s quite possible that the wages required to get workers to do the job are so high that it’s no longer profitable for farmers to plant the crops in the first place."
"Since June 24, at least 4,000 people have responded to the application, said Rodriguez. Some are serious responses and others are hate mail. "Only a few dozen have really followed through with the process," he said.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/07/news/economy/farm_worker_jobs/index.htmFeb 28, 2013
- Now,settle down. No need for a hissy fit. What and I posted was the truth. You getting angry over it won't change things.
Your suggestion that without illegals to exploit for cheap labor, farming would come to an end is narrow minded, short sighted, and plain ignorant.
The practice of hiring illegals for any sort of labor is not only illegal, but immoral and only exist because the illegals have no power and are forced to work at below market wages. If they are then granted some special status the price of their labor will adjust to be more in line with market values. But I get that as a good progressive you don't understand or acknowledge the power of market forces.
You might have done well to read some of the discussion on the sources you posted.Feb 28, 2013
You know what's more pathetic than assuming ideas for someone? Assuming emotions. It really shows a desperate attempt to discredit. The monikers of the parties in the Civil War and Civil Rights eras were reversed. It's clear that you are avoiding saying that the "Progressive party (of the time) fought to end the Civil War and fought for desegregation. It's name just happened to be reversed from modern politics."
It was still Conservatives that fought to keep slaves to do their labor and Conservatives that fought to keep 'separate but equal' as the status quo.
I never said farming would come to an end. If you have to force words in my mouth it's clear you have lost the argument. You've got no sources and can't even discredit what I put on the table for sources.
Americans won't do the work. If they would, food prices would sky rocket. If you can actually read the articles you'd know not every laborer is illegal and some already have approved visas and still work under the table for below market wages.Feb 28, 2013
- So you are saying that history is not relevant? I say history is very relevant, if you refuse to learn about the past then you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Look at the downfall of the Roman Republic and you will see that many of the same political policies of the Democrats in socializing everything is what led to the downfall. You may be right in saying that the more "Progressive" party is what aidwd in those social and political policies, however, what you fail to recognize is that the names of the parties did not change. What and I are trying to say is that the alignments of the parties are always changing and will continue to do this. So you calling out the Republican party as a conservative group is historically inaccurate and calling the Democrats out as a progressive group is also historically inaccurate. You really need to look further into US history than the past 20 or 50 years to really see how the policies of both parties have affected the social status of the US.Feb 28, 2013