We are different
To make the G+ Philosophy Community one of the best online forums for philosophy enthusiasts to participate in, I have been working hard to increase the standards and the quality of the contents in the community. That is one reason why most posts in the community have a high engagement rate, no spam of any kind, and you rarely see a post in the community that does not attract any comment and discussion.
Unlike many other G+ communities, when someone posts something in the G+ Philosophy Community it is almost guaranteed that a conversation will ensue. Not a trivial achievement! That is all possible thanks to you and other members of the community. So, thank you! I am proud of what we have been able to achieve with the help of all members and contributors.
Standards
To get even closer to an ideal community, there have been a set of standards that are being enforced upon all contents posted in our community. No post is exempt from these standards. That ensures consistency, better communication, higher quality posts, relevance, a higher rate of engagement, and overall a much better experience for all members.
Your post, if you made any, is one of the many posts I need to approve or reject on a daily basis. I am always excited about new posts and what they can bring to the community. I am committed to the highest level of quality that I can achieve through the moderation process. I strive to be fair, play no favouritism and hold everyone accountable against the same set of standards, and use sound discretion in corner-cases where there is no guideline upon which a situation can be decided. I do not operate in isolation. That is where your posts come into play.
You and the other 41,000+ members of this community are integral parts of the life of this community. Without your help and attention, there will be no community, no posts, no discussions, and no fun. Eventually, it is within your power to make it work or break. My job here is to make this community the best it can be so your discussions can flourish and you get a qualitatively different experience in this community compared to others.
To achieve that goal, I have devised a set of standards, as explained in the community guidelines, that I have been adjusting, polishing, and monitoring for years since 2012. Most contributors neatly comply with all of them. However, every day there are a few posts that do not. Once informed of the issues, the authors of these posts usually adjust their posts promptly and everything keeps moving smoothly. In rare occasions, a poster finds themselves in contempt of the standards and decides to leave the community (happens a couple of times a year; sourly unfortunate).
Behind the scene
If you are curious about what I deal with behind the scene, here are a few issues against which I see the most number of non-compliances:
(1) disruptive writing styles, e.g. disruptive punctuations, all caps, grammatical and mechanical errors, typos, etc.,
(2) images under the posts (a post must not have any link, attachment, or image. Instead leave them in the comment section under the post if necessary).
The 2nd issue is easy to understand and fix.
Not much the 1st issue though. Some might not care about any of the aforementioned errors. They might even like them and feel liberated by incorporating even more errors in their posts as a way to show how carefree or cool they are. They might have made a patented style out of it. Fair enough. That certainly is their choice and I respect it. Nevertheless, I happened not to see those stylistic choices as appropriate in a large community such as this one, and as a result, do not allow such posts in this community. This is not going to go away anytime soon, so we have to live with this disagreement.
Let’s improve!
I have increased my attention to the 1st item lately, and I am going to hold members accountable to a higher degree of professionalism than before. As such, I am going to ask all members to fix their posts, if they contain such errors, before approving them. There is no exception to this rule. This is not a new rule though, and it has already been explained in the community guidelines that has always been available to all members at all time. I am going to enforce them a bit more diligently now.
Who would be affected?
Everyone is held to the same standard. As such, I expect all members to have read and understood the community guidelines upon joining the community and post in compliance with its standards.
Need your help
With your help, we keep having a great community that looks professional, clean, active, enthusiastic, and relevant to all of us. I won’t be able to achieve these goals without you. If everyone helps, we can make it happen and even improve upon what we have already got. It certainly takes a lot of time and effort, but it is worth it.
Editorial Guidelines & Style Sheet
We don’t have an official style sheet for the posts in this community (should we?). Nevertheless, the following items are the bare minimum criteria that all posts need to meet before I approve them (they don’t apply to comments):
- paragraph spacing: there must be one line-space between each paragraph; no more, no less;
- meaningless punctuations: avoid using meaningless punctuations such as ?????? / !!!!!! / …….. / ?!?!?! / ?, / ?. / ?... / !, / !. / !... / ,,,,, / etc. They don’t mean what some think they mean. They don’t mean anything at all, and they are annoying;
- ALL CAPS: avoid using ALL CAPS. Use bold or italic to emphasize a word or a sentence sporadically;
- wall of text: avoid copy/pasting a long paragraph with no proper line-space. It gets annoying and hard to read;
- first-word capitalization: unless it is a list, English sentences must start with a capital letter;
- end-of-sentence punctuations: unless it is a list item or a header, all English sentences end with a punctuation of some sort (list items might end with a semicolon or no punctuation); and
- punctuation marks do not mix: in most cases, punctuation marks do not follow one another in an English sentence. Those few corner-cases have meaningful reasons why two punctuation marks do follow one another (for example a closed bracket at the end of a sentence or something like “this”). See “meaningless punctuations” above.
If you are in doubt, consult the University of Oxford Style Guide for more information (or see the relevant part of this cheat-sheet: http://bit.ly/2wehQpf). As a rule of thumb, “Use as little punctuation as necessary while retaining the meaning of the sentence.” [Source: the same cheat-sheet.]
All Indo-European languages follow similar rules. Most posters naturally follow them since there is nothing exceptional or extraordinary about the rules. Those posters who do not, will be asked to edit their posts before they can be released into the community. Posters have 24 hours to comply. When the grace period elapses and if all the edits are not properly applied, the post will be rejected. It applies to all posts, regardless of their content.
Keep It Simple, Stupid
All we need to do is to pay attention to how we compose our posts when we post. Just follow the KISS principle and all will be good. Remember, if we don’t have time to compose a professional-looking post or if we don’t care, then we cannot expect others to have time to put up with our poorly-written piece of word-salad.
Please comment below
As always, you are welcome to comment below. Don’t be afraid of holding me to the same set of standards. I would love to hear your constructive input.
Thank you for your time and happy philosophizing!
To make the G+ Philosophy Community one of the best online forums for philosophy enthusiasts to participate in, I have been working hard to increase the standards and the quality of the contents in the community. That is one reason why most posts in the community have a high engagement rate, no spam of any kind, and you rarely see a post in the community that does not attract any comment and discussion.
Unlike many other G+ communities, when someone posts something in the G+ Philosophy Community it is almost guaranteed that a conversation will ensue. Not a trivial achievement! That is all possible thanks to you and other members of the community. So, thank you! I am proud of what we have been able to achieve with the help of all members and contributors.
Standards
To get even closer to an ideal community, there have been a set of standards that are being enforced upon all contents posted in our community. No post is exempt from these standards. That ensures consistency, better communication, higher quality posts, relevance, a higher rate of engagement, and overall a much better experience for all members.
Your post, if you made any, is one of the many posts I need to approve or reject on a daily basis. I am always excited about new posts and what they can bring to the community. I am committed to the highest level of quality that I can achieve through the moderation process. I strive to be fair, play no favouritism and hold everyone accountable against the same set of standards, and use sound discretion in corner-cases where there is no guideline upon which a situation can be decided. I do not operate in isolation. That is where your posts come into play.
You and the other 41,000+ members of this community are integral parts of the life of this community. Without your help and attention, there will be no community, no posts, no discussions, and no fun. Eventually, it is within your power to make it work or break. My job here is to make this community the best it can be so your discussions can flourish and you get a qualitatively different experience in this community compared to others.
To achieve that goal, I have devised a set of standards, as explained in the community guidelines, that I have been adjusting, polishing, and monitoring for years since 2012. Most contributors neatly comply with all of them. However, every day there are a few posts that do not. Once informed of the issues, the authors of these posts usually adjust their posts promptly and everything keeps moving smoothly. In rare occasions, a poster finds themselves in contempt of the standards and decides to leave the community (happens a couple of times a year; sourly unfortunate).
Behind the scene
If you are curious about what I deal with behind the scene, here are a few issues against which I see the most number of non-compliances:
(1) disruptive writing styles, e.g. disruptive punctuations, all caps, grammatical and mechanical errors, typos, etc.,
(2) images under the posts (a post must not have any link, attachment, or image. Instead leave them in the comment section under the post if necessary).
The 2nd issue is easy to understand and fix.
Not much the 1st issue though. Some might not care about any of the aforementioned errors. They might even like them and feel liberated by incorporating even more errors in their posts as a way to show how carefree or cool they are. They might have made a patented style out of it. Fair enough. That certainly is their choice and I respect it. Nevertheless, I happened not to see those stylistic choices as appropriate in a large community such as this one, and as a result, do not allow such posts in this community. This is not going to go away anytime soon, so we have to live with this disagreement.
Let’s improve!
I have increased my attention to the 1st item lately, and I am going to hold members accountable to a higher degree of professionalism than before. As such, I am going to ask all members to fix their posts, if they contain such errors, before approving them. There is no exception to this rule. This is not a new rule though, and it has already been explained in the community guidelines that has always been available to all members at all time. I am going to enforce them a bit more diligently now.
Who would be affected?
Everyone is held to the same standard. As such, I expect all members to have read and understood the community guidelines upon joining the community and post in compliance with its standards.
Need your help
With your help, we keep having a great community that looks professional, clean, active, enthusiastic, and relevant to all of us. I won’t be able to achieve these goals without you. If everyone helps, we can make it happen and even improve upon what we have already got. It certainly takes a lot of time and effort, but it is worth it.
Editorial Guidelines & Style Sheet
We don’t have an official style sheet for the posts in this community (should we?). Nevertheless, the following items are the bare minimum criteria that all posts need to meet before I approve them (they don’t apply to comments):
- paragraph spacing: there must be one line-space between each paragraph; no more, no less;
- meaningless punctuations: avoid using meaningless punctuations such as ?????? / !!!!!! / …….. / ?!?!?! / ?, / ?. / ?... / !, / !. / !... / ,,,,, / etc. They don’t mean what some think they mean. They don’t mean anything at all, and they are annoying;
- ALL CAPS: avoid using ALL CAPS. Use bold or italic to emphasize a word or a sentence sporadically;
- wall of text: avoid copy/pasting a long paragraph with no proper line-space. It gets annoying and hard to read;
- first-word capitalization: unless it is a list, English sentences must start with a capital letter;
- end-of-sentence punctuations: unless it is a list item or a header, all English sentences end with a punctuation of some sort (list items might end with a semicolon or no punctuation); and
- punctuation marks do not mix: in most cases, punctuation marks do not follow one another in an English sentence. Those few corner-cases have meaningful reasons why two punctuation marks do follow one another (for example a closed bracket at the end of a sentence or something like “this”). See “meaningless punctuations” above.
If you are in doubt, consult the University of Oxford Style Guide for more information (or see the relevant part of this cheat-sheet: http://bit.ly/2wehQpf). As a rule of thumb, “Use as little punctuation as necessary while retaining the meaning of the sentence.” [Source: the same cheat-sheet.]
All Indo-European languages follow similar rules. Most posters naturally follow them since there is nothing exceptional or extraordinary about the rules. Those posters who do not, will be asked to edit their posts before they can be released into the community. Posters have 24 hours to comply. When the grace period elapses and if all the edits are not properly applied, the post will be rejected. It applies to all posts, regardless of their content.
Keep It Simple, Stupid
All we need to do is to pay attention to how we compose our posts when we post. Just follow the KISS principle and all will be good. Remember, if we don’t have time to compose a professional-looking post or if we don’t care, then we cannot expect others to have time to put up with our poorly-written piece of word-salad.
Please comment below
As always, you are welcome to comment below. Don’t be afraid of holding me to the same set of standards. I would love to hear your constructive input.
Thank you for your time and happy philosophizing!
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+Observe the Creator's Creation News,
Please allow me some comments on two of your last statements:
"True words aren't eloquent;
eloquent words aren't true."
I felt the absence of the adverb 'necessarily' in both parts of this phrase which is needed in order they be not easily falsified.
"Wise men don't need to prove their point;
men who need to prove their point aren't wise."
I, for one, don't think of myself as more than a kind of vessel whereby ideas convey themselves after briefly meeting inside it. Somehow countering Epictetus and Stoics in general, by means of this statement I try to acknowledge my powerlessness as to making also from ideas anything that may dictate my will without risking they punish me severely afterwards. It looks they have their own purposes, although they don't make them all clear to me at once, and interfering with that means usually making way for trouble. Better be all ears to them, forever, than get a taste of their rage. So, there's no point for me in thinking that any time I'll be able to prove a point of mine, and still less that I could have the need to do so.
:)6d
+Wal Reis
It is not meant to be taken Literally, in any form or away.
No point
It's just "what is," nothing to think about, not at this stage in life especially. Its already innate in everyone.
Doesn't mean though , it will be used.
You can say,
If you blame someone else,
there is no end to the blame.
That sounds like Eric Bright Scenario his way or his way. But can change if he chooses
Or
The truth is not always beautiful nor beautiful words truth.
People who speak can be way misunderstood
Sound like that's your take, but I still agree with that.
Then you jump to a Philosophy that sounds like,
If you care what other people think, you'll be their slave forever..
To me I look for absolute, irrefutable a.k.a. " what is" which thrives from,
Creation and Destruction/ Chaos and Order. Common sense innate
Absolute and Irrefutable
does not come from Human's.
Only Guidance a Human can give.
But I still agree in a lot you say
No more No less 🤓6d
+Observe the Creator's Creation News Just to comment on one part of your post. I have, periodically, posted to this forum for a few years. If it weren’t for Eric Bright, this community probably would have ended quite awhile ago.
He has his interpretation of the community’s rules, which some might find oppressive. However, in the main, I agree with him. When I spend time attempting to read a post on Philosophy, a subject I spent many years studying and in which I have great interest, and find that it’s unintelligible in the English language, it’s at best annoying. That Eric is as accepting as he is shows his dedication to this community.
I wonder if his critics could do as well.6d
+Edward Little
I understand what you are saying.
Nothing I say is meant to be offensive only to the one that feels offended.
Eric does sound and it sounds good.
His Guidance is valuable..
If There's is to be understanding the person must first understand..
That being said,
What is a good man but a bad man's teacher?
What is a bad man but a good man's job?
If you don't understand this, you will get lost,
however intelligent you are.
It is the great secret.6d
well sir...first of all thank you for getting admittamce here through..i have a say here...i have made a post containing image but you see this is necessary...because for the subject summerisation...attraction to the matter if it be relevant/very contextual...i believe in.wording too...i am against putting links or.anything unnecessary...another thing i have made my post for general discussion...if anything i like the disdcussion...talk on the way..so if anything plrase do respond to...thank you.5d
Spontaneity. Let responses be spontaneous and therefore of greater value than responses that follow a set dictum or guideline.
Of course nonsense or abuses are not philosophical, but radical responses are often more philosophically inclined than the responses that follow standard beliefs or knowledge.2d