someone is showing their age. Isn't dragoon from like 2000 or something? And those FF games... I think ff9 was released around the same time. What year is it? Do you know how much has changed in 15 years? I feel like I'm on an alien planet called WTF.
Haha and Zangief? Alex, you're old. Play something new. But, okay, I had a net friend who was around 450 pounds, morbidly obese, and in one year, he shed 200 pounds and became a powerlifter. His physique was similar to Zangief (minus the unnatural definition - though his legs were insane with crazy striations, as was his chest and arms and abs), and he did it clean. Granted, he had Scandinavian ancestry going for him. Oh, and you would've liked him. He had a PhD, was a professor in advanced mathematics (linear algebra, etc.) and physics. Loved philosophy and quantum mechanics and was a total history buff (read daily and also wrote), so a pretty exceptional dude, plus a gamer and computer geek.
Can't remember his name, but we chatted for a few years. Good discussions, including on the topic of fitness, and he taught me a bunch about sports nutrition and training, even directed me to isometrics -- very knowledgable guy, and you could definitely get big and bulky if you wanted. You have the frame to handle it. My point about it was any guy CAN get ripped. Genetics plays a part in how huge a person can become, but a person can be shredded and also trim -- those who are shredded are strong. Acquiring muscle mass isn't magic. It just takes time and focus. Muscles aren't unnatural.
And you're right - http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xgVdUoZAaMg/maxresdefault.jpg
- this isn't natural. His neck is too narrow. His trapezius muscles are too weak. His pecks aren't developed enough for as developed as his shoulders are. His obliques are barely visible and should be pretty prominent given the definition in his abs.... and his thighs are flippin' skinny. Someone with abs like that would have more definition and probably a more balanced body. That looks like an old game, too, but I don't recognize it, so <shrugs> whatever. Oh yeah, and that dude could not be a model with that body :) so no need to aspire to that if modeling is a career aspiration.
What I think is "realistic" versus what is achievable are two different things. I think realistic is a potbelly, stretchmarks and cellulite. What I think is achievable is an Olympic athlete. Didn't the characters in Legend of Dragoon have an anime-look? Not realistic. The realistic game character is a pretty recent thing. But as for you saying all the characters were fit and beautiful: pretty much all human beings can be, too (IMO), barring any serious deformities.
And I never said men were undersexualized, just that I don't consider men in games to really be sexualized (except in regard to their interactions with the women in the games). They are usually depicted as strong, and there are tons of strong guys IRL, so that isn't unrealistic. In the games I play
, they keep their clothes on. We have different gaming experiences because we play different games, and you are citing games from when we were teens.
> But what do these things matter? Your body is great. Guys like all different shapes and sizes, most guys wouldn't like tiny girl with comically large tits. In general though these freaks of nature aren't desirable by any measure in real life.
Why does it always come back to you trying to assure me that I'm fine. I'm not speaking from jealousy/envy, and it doesn't concern me whether guys find me attractive. If I wanted to look like those chicks, I'd get the surgery. I haven't, so obviously, I'm fine with the way my body looks (eh...for the most part). But it is an annoyance being around a guy, and he turns into a babbling buffoon when a stacked chick walks by, eyes bulging out of their sockets and mouth agape. I believe a lot of guys want a Jessica Rabbit (or Barbie), but they settle for what they can get. Sex dolls often have extremely unreasonable proportions.
> good thing most women in games don't have tripple G cups , nor do men want that
Look, the cup size was a reference to what I've been seeing in game ads online. I work in ads, so I'm exposed to a ton of them, but those ads are actually for computer/web games, not video games, and maybe they are picking the bustiest characters, and it is game art, instead of rendered in-game play, and there are nipples popping and camel-toe with up-the-skirt shots exposing panties and the ad copy is sexually suggestive like porn, and I'm like... "uh, what the crap is this?" - especially as these games are not "adult" games.
> You would find as many Tifa Lockhearts on this planet as you would Zangiefs.
Tifa Lockhart (http://geekxgirls.com/images/tifa3/tifa_cosplay_02.jpg
) - thanks for the name. I didn't know who the heck she was, but I saw a ton of cosplay for that character when I looked up final fantasy females.
We both agree that people are horrible. I don't know those gamer-women-feminist-spokespeople, but as I:
#1 - Don't like most females... and
#2 - Rarely get along with feminists... and
#3 - Think if someone wants to change how women are treated/regarded, they should focus on larger issues to encourage progress towards equality rather than provoking unrest in smaller arenas that don't matter (yet)... (but I do think game violence and in-game sex matters in a different light because kids are
playing these games: whether or not that is intended)
Even though I don't know anything about those females, I don't question what you've about them. I do find that females like to provoke, which you can say I'm doing right now, though I wouldn't call it that - they also like to manipulate. But although I don't tend to get along with females, I don't like anyone being jerkfaces to each other or hearing threats of rape or violent sexual acts... or even people calling each other nasty names for no reason. It's not cool. I don't like that bullying crap. That's just me. End topic. No need to comment.
P.S. On a totally unrelated note, I'm watching some coding videos with a guy who reminds me of you when you were younger, except he actually smiles :^p
If you want to keep talking, you can email me. Let's cease commentary on this thread.